http://blogcritics.org/ A sinister cabal of superior bloggers on music, books, film, popular culture, politics, and technology - updated continuously. en Copyright 2005-2006 by the authors Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:21:30 EDT http://backend.userland.com/rss Blogcritics.org custom software http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/09/24/104016.php#comment-20186 no disagreement on any of those thoughts 20186@blogcritics.org Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:21:30 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/09/24/104016.php#comment-20185 I may have been one to bake you at the luau, but today I'm not in the mood to bite the very thing I helped cook. 8-) I love the idea of VoIP for phone use, as well as the idea of the blanket charge for services like it. Including file sharing of music. Consumers *love* package deals, especially if the packages gives them a lot of what they want and only very little of what they don't want [for example, I'm not crazy about my cable TV package -- too much of what I don't want]. I also think the RIAA is in many ways biting the hand that feeds it, but that's their mistake to make. In the meantime, their lawsuits have at least brought the issue of copying copyrighted material off the 'net to the forefront. I think a lot more young people who truly didn't know the legalities around taking something from the 'net without asking the actual owner, will now be more aware of it. If they choose to do it, then at least they knowingly choose to do it. Maybe it will help slow down plagiarism and similar forms of cheating at colleges, too. 20185@blogcritics.org Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:19:39 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/09/24/104016.php#comment-20010 Ok, I'll bite. It is technically correct that file sharing is not a theft crime (or "stealing"), but not exactly for the reasons you state. Theft typically requires that a person take someone else's property with the intent to permanently deprive that person of it. So, since file sharing involves a copy, the sharer doesn't commit theft because he doesn't deprive the artist of the work (as compared to walking out of a store with a CD). But theft does not require that someone "deprive the lawful owner of the use of an object or income from its use or sale." If I have an orange grove with too many oranges for me to ever eat and I'm rich so I never sell any of the excess, the person who comes along and picks a bucketful of oranges is still committing theft. That is because property rights typically include both the right to use and also, importantly, the right to exclude. For a fascinating back and forth between a couple very smart law professors about this issue and the justifications for intellectual property , see the following links: http://volokh.com/2003_09_07_volokh_archive.html#106337644830524885 http://lsolum.blogspot.com/2003_09_01_lsolum_archive.html#106338119420336709 http://volokh.com/2003_09_14_volokh_archive.html#106355331874996741 http://lsolum.blogspot.com/2003_09_01_lsolum_archive.html#106349932466050651 http://volokh.com/2003_09_14_volokh_archive.html#106397940862861555 So while file sharing is technically copyright infringement and not theft (I imagine b/c when theft was originally defined in the English common law centuries ago, file sharing wasn't an issue), it is from a moral perspective still wrong. The file sharer denies the artist his right to exclude others from his property (and in doing so reduces the value of his work, along with the incentive to create works generally). As to fair use, I'm no copyright expert, but is it really a gray area when some downloads songs from a P2P network from someone they don't know on the other side of the country (or world for that matter)? I seriously doubt it. And if it is, it surely shouldn't be. Viable legitimate alternatives? How about buying the CD or vinyl? Does file sharing damages CD sales? Before file sharing, people would often buy albums (especially pop) for only two or three songs that they liked. I can't imaging that same person buys the album today, assuming he is a file sharer. Finally, the WiFi/blanket fee example is an interesting one. I would only suggest that file sharer in that example is the person who somehow gets access to the network without paying the blanket fee. And why should he? Don't many, if not all, of the same rationales for file sharing apply to the person who freerides on the WiFi network? 20010@blogcritics.org Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:42:12 EDT