JR: You've said this is a wonderful time for anyone to be making movies. Do you really want to see more people making films?

TB: To me, it raises the bar. It doesn't lower the bar. If more people can make them, they're going to have to be better. Everybody should be able to exercise freedom of expression, if they want to. Think of all the people who weren't able to get near any kind of equipment to tell a story. I think it's wonderful that technology is being democratized through shrinking costs. When the I Mac came out with DV Cam and final cut pro, I was thinking I wished I was 16 again. I was shooting and trying to do sound on super 8. If there's a will there's a way. And that was one of the things for us we heard was 'you can make it on your own, but you're not going to get into the theater system.' Well, we stayed out of the theater system because we couldn't get a fair deal. We had distribution offers. I turned them all down because they were going to rip me off because they thought I had no leverage. I used to work in a theater so I wasn't intimidated by what it took to get into a theater. I knew half of the distributors who were interested in me weren't big enough to do anything with it anyway. They would've taken a quick hit and sold off the video, and I never would have seen a dime, and probably it would never have seen the light of day.

But then, each successive year over the four year period, that I was shooting editing, then posting it, distribution it, were major technological leaps. Not the least of which was the advent of these low cost LCD video projectors, which were totally portable. So I self distributed it in the same style that Dan and Dave did with new toys. I'd mail this 15 lb projector to the theater that filled up the big screen, and told the theater to bring in their DVD player from home. That's how we played all the major theaters, got all the major reviews. It was a road show slight of hand. If others can do it, I can do it. That was the spirit of experimentation that really paid off for us. All I really wanted to do was to play the 15-20 top American cities to get my reviews for the box art for the video.

JR: This film was shot in 5-7 partial days?

TB: Over three months, yes, in 5-7 partial days. It was a very efficient process. And we had to do that because Dan and Dave's batteries would run out. Dan needed to go back and take a nap. But they're showmen, so they were ready to go and they were a lot of fun to work with. There's one shoot in the car where we drove for three hours. It was early on in the project, so the camera didn't have any accessories. I had to jerry rig a wide-angle lens. That scene came out great. We were just lucky.