Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on Allah, Why Do You Hate Us So?

Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:21:39 EDT

I am still waiting for a legitimate reply from an Islamic religious scholar. Dawn, you've waited four long years for an answer, but here it is in its entirety - and answer from a Moslem legal scholar - albeit not one who has advocated terrorism. Dear Reuven, This guy is right: "the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history." Peace-loving Muslims are silent since speaking in this situation is dangerous. Dangerous not only for those who live in Muslim countries (see Shoaib's case), but also for those who live in the West. I spoke, and the result is that those fanatics against whom I spoke are now suing me in court. I am accused of slandering them, and waiting to be tried. In the meanwhile, I must pay my legal fees and are deprived of the right to renew my passport. I cannot travel outside of the EU, like if I were a criminal. Those few examples should prove how speaking against fanatics is dangerous, and we cannot ask people to suddenly become heroes. Most of peace-loving Muslims keep silent since they are afraid, for themselves, for their families, for their reputation, for their job, etc. All the best, Abdul Hadi At 08.13 Tuesday 26/06/2007, R. Kossover wrote: My Dear Sheikh, How do I answer this guy? He makes some very telling points. He doesn't mention the Wahhabi or the sick Shi'a cult in Iran by name, but the point is crystal clear. The silence of the masses allows the evil of the Wahhabi to proceed unopposed... My dear Sheikh, YOU speak up - you are like a beacon of bright light in the darkness. But those like you are few and far between, and often persecuted by Moslem authorities when and where this is possible. I await your thoughts. Blessings from Ma'aleh Levona, Reuven ----- Original Message ----- THE COST OF COMPLACENCY Worthy of reading and further thought... A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. "Very few people were true Nazis "he said," but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories." We are told again and again by "experts" and "talking heads" that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. The hard quantifiable fact is that the "peaceful majority" the "silent majority" and it is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia comprised Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge population it was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people. The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet. And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were "peace loving"? History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awake one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun. Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold; we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life. Lastly, at the risk of offending, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, can contribute to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

Comment by STM on Allah, Why Do You Hate Us So?

Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:34:49 EDT

"Islam a religion of peace? If so can anyone in here tell me any muslim country that practices tolerence and freedom of expression?" Turkey, for one, for the most part. Jordan's another. And Indonesian and Malay muslims are very tolerant of the other religions among them. The Balinese aren't muslims and have their rights protected as indonesians. So yes, there are quite a few. The current Iraqi government would be tolerant too if nutcases weren't going around blowing the shit out of everything. It's the nutcases that are the problem, and there's more than a grain of truth in the statement made by M Ali Ahsen above.

Comment by M. Ali Ahsan on Allah, Why Do You Hate Us So?

Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:45:10 EDT

I have been to UK, and seen it myself. I have asked many of my friends in US. I have discussed with my family members in Canada. And I have come to the conclusion that "As far as normal people are concerned, they are peace loving, regardless of their religon. Normal people love to live a good happy life with loving people around them regardless of their respective believes. They help each other, they share good and sorrowful days, they share foods ... BUT politicians/racist/agents from all over the world have made this world a hell, whether it is Bush or Osama or Saddam or Blair all have their own interests. They themselved live/lived a very lavish lives but they made us bear the cruelty".

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