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Comment by Dew on Who loves ya baby?

Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:52:18 EDT

It means nonsense, I had to look it up too... lol ]]>

Comment by Thought Process on Who loves ya baby?

Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:39:26 EDT

piffle? ]]>

Comment by Dew on Who loves ya baby?

Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:52:19 EDT

You know I was waiting for the Diva to pick on the little kids too. Somehow I knew for her inanity, this was the only logical next step. And thats fine. Unlike her if I am not mistaken I have in no way said anything at all disrespectful or demeaning about her or her work. So wouldn't that make Mac Diva somewhat of a hypocrite? Or does that make me a neo-Confederate too? If my thoughts to you are 'piffle', guide me. Confer with me and allow me the chance to become better in what you perceive better to be. But your rants are getting old and I haven't even been here long. Al could be the Grand Dragon if he wants to be but I will give him this when he insults he also disputes. Which at the moment is more than I can say for the Diva. It is much better to have a forum where opinions can be expressed, however conflicting they may be, rather than have intolerent attitudes on the streets where violence can erupt. Am I young? Yes, admittedly. Now that we understand my reason for acting as such tell me Diva what is yours? As you would have people think: it was not that long ago I was playing in the sandbox. And, if I remember correctly there was always one person who had to have their way and if they couldn't they threatened to leave the sandbox. I am terribly sorry to have bothered you with my piffle, but please if you are leaving don't get sand in your shorts on the way out. And in the indelible words of Faith Hill Breathe ]]>

Comment by Al Barger on Who loves ya baby?

Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:15:30 EDT

Beloved Natalie, I wanted to feign some satiric offense at your grave and insensitive insult to my people, but my evil will is vanquished by the warmth of your affection. ]]>

Comment by Natalie Davis on Who loves ya baby?

Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:03:47 EDT

Sorry, couldn't resist. I wanted to say it before you did. ]]>

Comment by Al Barger on Who loves ya baby?

Fri, 29 Aug 2003 02:52:31 EDT

That's right, Natalie, come on over to the Dark Side. ]]>

Comment by Natalie Davis on Who loves ya baby?

Fri, 29 Aug 2003 02:16:18 EDT

Must be that whole Kentucky thing. ]]>

Comment by Al Barger on Who loves ya baby?

Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:40:31 EDT

You would think so, Natalie, but it's real easy to put your brain on autopilot. I have to actively police my own thinking to keep it from calcifying. It's not as easy as it might seem. It takes an active effort. ]]>

Comment by Natalie Davis on Who loves ya baby?

Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:23:06 EDT

Al: Any halfway intelligent human would do the same, don't you think? Mac Diva: (hugs to you, sweetie) Which of Dew's statements do you consider "piffle," and why? ]]>

Comment by Al Barger on Who loves ya baby?

Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:56:07 EDT

Yes Natalie, I understand that you are a believer. I was particularly pleased though that you give some consideration and understanding to a view very clearly not your own. ]]>

Comment by Mac Diva on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:00:55 EDT

Dew, I've been cutting you some slack on the grounds of youth and naivete. End of that. What you've posted above is pure piffle. ]]>

Comment by Dew on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:05:47 EDT

'...and many nonbelievers are more godly beings than a lot of people who call themselves believers.' - Amen ]]>

Comment by Natalie Davis on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:52:19 EDT

Thanks Al, but no, your evil influence did not inspire #16, at least not consciously. Actually, I don't believe much of what I wrote -- I was just offering an alternate POV for conversation's sake. I am one of those who believes God is loving and who knows that faith is a huge, but necessary, leap for one who believes. At the same time, nonbelievers make some good points and deserve every bit of respect. After all, we all have free will, and many nonbelievers are more godly beings than a lot of people who call themselves believers. ]]>

Comment by Mark Saleski on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:42:08 EDT

"Quite frankly the arrogance is in you thinking there is no existence higher than your own" how, exactly, is mr. barger arrogant? you believe in something for which there really is no proof, only faith. al, because there is no proof, or at least something he sees as proof...does not. who's arrogant? there will be a quiz later. ]]>

Comment by Al Barger on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:48:24 EDT

Natalie, I'm so PROUD of you. Perhaps it is my evil influence on you, but I couldn't have said that better than you in #16. ]]>

Comment by Dew on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:03:35 EDT

Yes God can really lay the wrath down when need be. But at the time it is questionable as to whether the means justified the end. Also the GLBT debate is one that will always walk the earth but can be placed into perspective by a closer view of the Word. Yes homosexuality is referred to as abominable so is fornication. If our purpose is to praise God and multiply the earth, wouldn't same sex intercourse go against that as well as fornication? Its funny how people can only ever point at Sodom and Gomorrah and their prosecution. As if to say 'heteros' were always good. What exactly did Noah build that ark for I wonder? I guarantee you it wasn't to enjoy the sea. For every person in S&G God has sent his wrath down on at least 5 Heterosexuals. So none of us are excluded despite who we are prone to love. And if you really want to make some psuedo-insecure-GLBT-hating-Christians mad, refer them to the Story of David who is quoting as having loved Saul's son Jonathan more intimately than any woman. And if Peter wasn't a misogynistic self-hating so and so then Eve really did just eat an 'apple'. ]]>

Comment by Dew on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:30:41 EDT

Thats the second reference to the Lake of fire(hell) that I've seen from you. Hell can be taken different ways, my personal take is that you will not end up burning in gasoline undies, so let's move on shall we. To answer your question about His judgement, your thinking is one in a physical sense, to understand you would how to move to a more metaphysical plane. God does not judge you by where you live but how you live. Being that , as you said, he knows everything, would he not take in to account your conditions? The only thing that matters and again this is from my perspective, is what is in your heart and how you follow that. Does God knows all? Yes. How does that effect your free will? It doesn't. Say for example you have to get to New York from Atlanta. There are 6 million ways to do so. Its up to you how you get there. If you choose to take a longer route you put yourself in jeopardy of being grossly distracted and more unfortunately persuaded off course altogether. If you are more determined and take a more direct path, there are more obstacles but the return is greater. The same can be applied to life's path. With religion, specifically Christianity, society has placed a lot of scare tactics to enforce a sense of spiritual control, in order to combat this it would be wise to know the word for yourself. There is no question that you could ask me that I probably could not find a scripture for to back my reason for believing, but they would still be just that - my reasons for believing. I have my own personal revelations and testimony that to many who do not believe may write off as coincidence or insanity (of which I have never denied may be quite possible) but it works for me. Do I believe there is a God? Yes. I also believe He/She wants the best in all cases for all of us. Can I answer all the questions you have? Quite possibly but the answers will always be from my personal conditions. The simple fact that you even have questions means there is a struggle within you, however strong or minute, between what you want to believe and what has been pressed upon you to believe. But as it stands believe is the objective word here. You can not ever have definitive answers for a belief. So its up to you find those answers you need in order to settle that struggle. Choose wisely I'd hate to see you in that Lake<-----JUST KIDDING **************************** I took so long to reply I see there have been several more comments added. yay! ]]>

Comment by Eric Olsen on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:21:03 EDT

That is the seeming personality of the Old Testament God - the New Testament God is much more magnanimous, forgiving, understanding. He would appear to have reformed Himself. Beyond that, we cannot know the mind of God directly, only indirectly. We use faith to overcome our perceived logical inconsistencies - it is outrageously presumptuous to assume our brains are the final word. ]]>

Comment by Natalie Davis on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:11:16 EDT

Devil's advocate here: God only wants to love us? All that plague, locust, pillar of salt, 40-day flood, smiting people stuff might lead one to think differently. And who would want that kind of love? The religious right says God discriminates against GLBT people and mandates their death by violence in the Bible -- that doesn't sound loving to me. In fact, thinking of all the ramifications that go along with God-following, it could be seen that God wants only for us to love GOD. I mean, talk about an egomaniac. And what a control freak, some might say: Pray, follow 10 rules (while dangling others nearby to confuse you), this is how you genuflect, i gave you a brain but i don't want you to use it -- just do as i say, honor no other gods but me, call me "hallowed" every day, hey baby; i am three in one, you know, obey me obey me obey me or burn -- or be prepared to do penance, punk... It could be argued that the God figure is a narcissistic, contradictory legalist and sadist who most resembles a secretive Roman Catholic bishop. ====================== Yeah, this was written by one who does indeed believe in God and does indeed use the brain God gave her. Watching out for thunderbolts now... ]]>

Comment by Eric Olsen on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:47:25 EDT

Omniscience is not incompatible with free will - just because God knows what you are going to do doesn't mean you didn't have the free will to make the choice in the first place. ]]>

Comment by Rohin on Who loves ya baby?

Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:29:20 EDT

Thanx for replyin dew.But ive got a lotta questions. Ok...here goes...You live in the USA and youve got a law there. The government enforces these laws at the same time gives everyone equal rights, equal oppurtunities and people are judged based on that. Now take God...people living in different places...different conditions of living...different oppurtunities. How can a just god judge us like that and throw away the evil in a lake of fire? Ive been taught God knows everything, when ull die etc.. Doesnt that ridicule the whole idea of Free Will? Hit back ]]>

Comment by JR on Who loves ya baby?

Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:20:10 EDT

Seems like mankind has exerted a lot of control over God through history. First by inventing Him, then by adjusting His stance on various lifestyle choices to fit the cultural bias of the times. ]]>

Comment by Dew on Who loves ya baby?

Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:11:25 EDT

And thats just it, for me and only for me, I don't need something sitting in front of my face. Thats why its called faith. Quite frankly the arrogance is in you thinking there is no existence higher than your own or maybe its fear that there's something out there you can't control... ]]>

Comment by Dew on Who loves ya baby?

Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:11:10 EDT

Comment by Al Barger on Who loves ya baby?

Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:47:53 EDT

Yes puppies chew up your shoes. On the other hand, however, puppies don't send you to hell to burn in a lake of fire. Yes Dew, I'd like for little ones in the family to know that they can count on my love and support. However, I care about that because I actually exist, unlike this "God" that so many people like to fantasize about. It'd be NICE to have someone watching over me, but on the other hand I don't think I'd take the help for having to give up the privacy. My preferences here, however, are totally irrelevant- as are yours, Dawn's, and everyone else's. The question is, is the God story actually factual? I don't claim to know the answers to all life's Deep Questions, but I know enough to separate wishes from fishes. In the classic words of Paul Simon: Faith Faith is an island in the setting sun But proof, yeah Proof is the bottom line for everyone ]]>