Disturbed - "Liberate"

Written by Mark Saleski
Published July 08, 2003

Let's get this out of the way right now...I don't know jack about Disturbed except that:

    they're playing Ozzfest this summer
    there are no guitar solos on the song "Liberate"
    they're fricken' loud

Not a lot to go on. I'm listening to the "Liberate" promo cd single (which lists Ozzfest dates on the back).

This is where I begin to feel old and start complaining about how today's metal just isn't the same as when I was a kid. I'm event tempted to visit with the "it all sounds the same" gambit.

But here's the thing...is that being fair? Is it valid (useful, maybe?) criticism to say that I don't like something just because it's not like my old favorites? Maybe none of that even matters. Heck, the whole "not like it used to be" angle is kinda worn out in the entire world of arts criticism.

...and these guys are make a living grinding out this stuff (their last album, The Sickness sold a boatload of copies). So why would it matter if some old fart (who grew up on 70's metal) can't deal with the new (nu?) thing?

I don't know.

What I do know is that I like the song "Liberate". The rhythm section is scary tight and the guitar is crushing. I've heard plenty of stuff like this live (Mudvayne being the most recent) and it is fun in a cathartic sorta way. But if I had to listen to seventy minutes of it?....I dunno, it kind of lacks in the dynamics department. Sorry, but the slow/quiet-to-loud-as-hell transitions just can't take the place of guitar solos.

So what I'm getting at is..well, I guess bands like Disturbed make me wonder what the future of metal is going to look like.

Is this it?

(First posted on Mark Is Cranky)

Mark Saleski is a writer and music obsessive based out of the Monadnock region of New Hampshire. On his best day, he hopes to channel the ghosts of Lester Bangs and Jack Kerouac. He spends the hours of 9:32PM to 1:37AM carving out music reviews and essays for Jazz.com, Blogcritics.org and other publications.
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#1 — July 8, 2003 @ 11:18AM — The Theory

oh god, I hope not... I wouldn't even call them metal. *shudder*

peace.

#2 — July 8, 2003 @ 11:41AM — BRICKLAYER

Brother, the future of metal is:

Lamb of God
Nodes of Ranvier
Darkest Hour
Soilwork
In Flames
Chimaira
Nile
Cattle Decapitation
Meshugga
From Autumn to Ashes
Atreyu
Thrice
The F!%$king Champs
The Blood Brothers
Point of Recognition
Converge
the Mighty, Mighty HATEBREED, and oh yeah, the revitalized Metallica!

I know some of these bands aren't considered metal and that they and they're followers would be loathe to associate with us heshers, but they're more metal than your momma's kettle!

m/,


#3 — July 8, 2003 @ 11:45AM — BRICKLAYER

And also:

any talented and heavy Christian/Straightedge/Vegan acts incorporating metal. Enough of the hate and gore lyrics already, it's so 1980's.

#4 — July 8, 2003 @ 13:37PM — The Theory

bricklayer, you're cool. Not many people can say what you just said with a straight face.

And I agree.

And props to you for mentioning The Blood Brothers. Woop!

peace.

#5 — July 8, 2003 @ 15:07PM — Tom Johnson [URL]

Bricklayer, I don't know all of the bands you list, but what I have heard I agree with - Lamb of God, Meshuggah specifically. I would also add Opeth in, as well, although their future remains questionable - will they follow their black metal past, or stretch out into more Pink Floyd-y psychedelia? Another impressive band, though maybe not in quite the same vein, is Pain Of Salvation. Check 'em out, Remedy Lane is one of my favorites . . .

#6 — July 9, 2003 @ 13:09PM — BRICKLAYER

Yo, Theory,

Have you heard the new Poison The Well? If so, what do you think? I haven't got it yet, or heard anything. Thanks.

#7 — July 9, 2003 @ 13:45PM — The Theory

i have not. Haven't listened to much by them, really. Saw a cd by them used at CD Warehouse once. It had a red and black cover, if I remember right. Listened to it but wasnt impressed enough to shell out the money for it.

peace.

#8 — August 14, 2004 @ 15:50PM — Eric LaRue

I think the new symphonic metal bands are going to be making a difference, too, like Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, Theatre of Tragedy, Sonata Arctica, etc.

BTW, Bricklayer, who are some of these Christian Metal bands you hinted at? I'd be curious at checking them out.

#9 — September 4, 2004 @ 09:48AM — Pat Oriley

OK Disturbed is not the greatest band ever (i like it) but Christian Rock? "Rockin for Jesus" is just propaganda for the weak minded who rationalize their irational fear of dying by posturing and acting tough. Oooh you guys are so hardcore. I hate to flame but you guys are dorks.

#10 — November 12, 2005 @ 14:39PM — Glyph [URL]

Guys. I personally think Disturbed are quite good (though I'd be the first to admit I have an unusual taste in music). I suggest that before you make a desision you sould try to listen to a couple of the other tracks from their lastest album. Especially Mark. The tracks don't have any real solos as such but some of the guitaring in Remember is close to godly.

#11 — June 29, 2006 @ 06:39AM — Scarlett

OK Pat, I agree with the whole "Christians are delusional" bit, but that doesn't mean all Christian metal bands suck. Seriously, check out a band called LIVING SACRIFICE. They're heavier than most bands and really talented musicians. Nothing beats good ol' devil music, though. And all you nu- metal poseurs, Disturbed is not NOT metal, neither is Mudvayne, SOAD, or any of that metal core crap. METAL UP YOUR ASS!!!

#12 — July 25, 2006 @ 22:28PM — Heather

I like Disturbed, but I must say that most of their stuff sounds the same. They are actually kind of good live. For the person who says that Thrice is the future of metal, I got news for you: Thrice is punk not metal.

#13 — August 5, 2006 @ 18:50PM — Mark

Try mortal treason - they have good instrumentals, and they are christian metal

#14 — October 22, 2006 @ 15:29PM — Haplo

Well... I very much do NOT agree with the part of christians being delusional, mostly because i'm christian myself, and listen to a lot of rock without needing it to keep my selfesteem up.. Mostly i think that people who likes to criticisise christians are people who're afraid of sticking out, therefore they adopt the belief that everybody has: Atheism..

BUT.. Back to Disturbed...
I think it's a really cool band, and Mark: Liberate can get tiering and i see why u dont like it in the first place.. but have you heard their new album: Ten thousand fists?? (There are some really good song there, and they seem to have changed their style a bit towards power-metal)

But. If you want guitar, drum and so on. solos i have some bands that you will love
In (Christian) Heavy metal: Turniquet
Power metal: Dragonforce, Kamelot.

And you can of course try slipknot though i don't like it much (but their drummer is really good)

#15 — February 13, 2007 @ 05:35AM — Gregorz

I just have to say, Haplo, that your opinion is hilarious. You know that most people are Christian, right? Atheism is only slowly becoming more prominent, as more people shed the established beliefs that were pumped into our families' heads back when not believing in Christianity would get you shot.

#16 — April 11, 2007 @ 22:38PM — Garrett Orahood

one day i was listining to disturbed and got a christian "feel" about them so i started looking into it listen to the song deify and tell me there isnt anything Godly about it there is alot look at lyrics first then listen to it yes most disturbed stuff sounds alike but there a really good METAL band for those who think there not metal sure they are its more NEW AGE metal but its meatal...

#17 — August 27, 2007 @ 00:53AM — J

Gregorz, I doubt you realize what Christianity is all about. Do you really think that it is prevalent simply due to tradition? Surely you are more intelligent.

#18 — October 14, 2007 @ 15:03PM — your mom

testicles

#19 — November 7, 2007 @ 23:45PM — Dancecommander

LOL Gagorz... I find your opinion hilarious. You tried the common "LOL AT U" comment to bash christianity. Im sayng this as a third party too. You failed. Dont say a word about how it isin't because im the third party buddy.

#20 — November 8, 2007 @ 00:24AM — gonzo marx [URL]

see/hear for yourselves...and then make up your own Minds

who cares what "category" you label it with, it's Music and subjective...

way to dig up olde Threads for irrelevant reasons

Excelsior?

#21 — November 14, 2007 @ 19:06PM — liberated

u know, i get really tired of little pussies bitiching about the category that music fits into. "no thats metal, thats punk" blah blah blah... as gonzo marx sed, music is subjective, and its wrong to compartmentalise it to compensate for narrow minds.

disturbed is an awsome band btw

#22 — December 28, 2007 @ 20:45PM — N8is

... okay to begin with... on the whole little debate thats started up here, why cant you just be more tolerante and just leave your opinion about disturbed...ill keep my own opinions to myself on an open forum..

secondly, the reason people post bands as metal is because to us its more than music, its culture.
we do this because we dont want our music to be viewed incorrectly. and if you dont know that then your not a "metal head." not that you were saying that, just so that you know, nothing personal.

finally, disturbed, they're alright. sorta sorta. theyre original in a first expresion, but extremely repetetive, dont really have the right spirit or position of mind for metal (as i listen to their songs) but are still "catchy" enough to listen into the car or something. but definetely not as good as metallica, cob, dimmu borgir, blind guardian, or any of the real metal gods.

also... dont forget the "underground" or less known metal types and bands.

try Empyrium. "Whwere at Night the Wood Grouse Plays"... i think
dont listen to weiland by them it sucked... idk about the other albums

(forgive spelling)

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