Tom Waits - the Onion AV Club Interview

Written by BJ Johnson
Published June 25, 2003

In this excellent Tom Waits interview by Keith Phipps for the Onion AV Club, we learn the origins of the phrase "Today you will play jazz, tomorrow you will betray your country," that honey doesn't spoil, and that his kids turned him on to Blackalicious (but he can't attend shows with them because that would be too embarassing).

For example:

O: What's your collaborative process like with Kathleen Brennan?

TW: [Chuckles.] Oh! Well, you know, "You wash, I'll dry." It all comes down to making choices and a lot of decisions. You know, are we gonna do a song about our cruise ship, or a meadow, or a brothel, or... just a rhapsody, or is it a parlor song or a work song or a field holler? What is it? The form itself is like a Jell-O mold. It's like doing anything that you would do with someone. "You hold it right there while I hit it," or the other way around. You find a rhythm in the way of working. I trust her opinion above all else. You've gotta have somebody to trust, that knows a lot. She's done a lot of things. I'm Ingrid Bergman and she's Bogart. She's got a pilot's license, and she was gonna be a nun before we got married. I put an end to that. She knows about everything from motorcycle repair to high finance, and she's an excellent pianist. One of the leading authorities on the African violet. She's a lot of strong material. She's like Superwoman, standing there with her cape flapping. It works. We've been at this for some time now. Sometimes you quarrel, and it's the result of irritation, and sometimes it comes out of the ground like a potato and we marvel at it. She doesn't like the spotlight. She's a very private person, as opposed to myself. [Laughs.]

O: You have kind of developed a reputation as a recluse. Does that bother you?

TW: Hell, no. I think that's a good one. It wards off strangers. It's like being a beekeeper.


[snip]

O: What are you driving these days?

TW: Oh, I got a beautiful 1959 Cadillac Coupe DeVille four-door. No one will ride in it with me.

O: Why's that?

TW: It's unsafe. But it looks good. I take it to the dump. We spend a lot of time in our cars. You know what I really love? The CD players in a car. How when you put the CD right up by the slot, it actually takes it out of your hand, like it's hungry. It pulls it in, and you feel like it wants more silver discs. "More silver discs. Please." I enjoy that.

O: Do you have one in the Cadillac?

TW: No, I have a little band in there. It's an old car, so I have a little old string band in the glove compartment. It's grumpy. You know the average person spends two weeks over their lifetime waiting for the traffic light to change?

Waits also talks about his views on using songs in advertising, covers of his compositions, and knowing your audience. "You don't really know. I guess one should not even assume that one has an audience, and allow it to go to your head," he says.

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#1 — August 18, 2003 @ 20:20PM — Jinjer [URL]

Please check out this Tom Waits article.
http://www.musicbizadvice.com/tomwaits.htm Thanks!

#2 — September 1, 2003 @ 06:16AM — S.A. Smith

Never could stand that dog.

#3 — September 1, 2003 @ 12:31PM — Eric Olsen

SA, great line, I love that album, his first in a really different direction: punk folk-jazz or something.

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