"No no no no no no no no": Radiohead's Hail to the Thief and Deftones' Deftones

Written by Sean T. Collins
Published June 12, 2003
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Unfortunately, it's an intensity too few music fans will experience. The Deftones have been largely ignored precisely by the kind of people who'd most enjoy them, primarily because of their long-time association with the baggy-pants crowd (Korn, Bizkit), their own frequent sporting of said pants, and the simple fact that they aren't British. But the band has always admitted to musical influences that'd get booed right off the Summer Sanitarium stage, from Violator-era Depeche Mode to Pinkerton-era Weezer. Radiohead at their best also clearly shaped the band into its current brilliant form. With any luck, Thom will pick up Deftones on his next swing through the States, and the favor will be returned. It won't be a moment too soon.

* (To digress for a minute, in a recent interview with Rolling Stone, Thom suggested that as bad as Saddam Hussein is, the weakening of the UN precipitated by the US and UK is worse. If I could I'd point out to him that the UN always did whatever the US (or, in its day, the USSR) wanted to do anyway, and that though it might now appear to be a counterbalance to the US's power, perhaps an organization that puts Libya in charge of the Human Rights commission isn't much of a moral arbiter. He also explained that the whole album stems from the sinking feeling he got while hearing the BBC report that Bush stole the 2000 election. I wasn't thrilled about that at the time by any stretch of the imagination, but I'll just say that if I were to record a politically-charged album between late 2001 and early 2003, I'd probably be focusing on a certain even that took place eleven months after that election. But that's enough of that.)

Sean T. Collins is a professional writer and editor who reserves the right to change his mind about everything if and when the Bush Administration cancels the 2004 elections. Until then he blogs at Attentiondeficitdisorderly Too Flat, where this post originally appeared.

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#1 — June 12, 2003 @ 16:28PM — Eric Olsen

great line: "but also makes Tori Amos's diction seem like that of Walter Cronkite"

super reviews, interesting juxtaposition, splendid job - thanks!

#2 — June 12, 2003 @ 17:58PM — Tom Johnson [URL]

I must be the only person out there who thinks Hail To The Thief is an amazing piece of work, combining the best elements of OK Computer and Kid A and, thankfully, skipping over the dreary reading that Amnesiac was. I must be in a contradictory mood this week - first Metallica blows me away, then Radiohead. Maybe I'm losing my ability to be fair and critical at the same time . . .

#3 — June 13, 2003 @ 13:07PM — Sean T. Collins [URL]

Tom, the parts of the album that I like, I like a lot: the "no no no no no no no no" part at the beginning of "A Punchup at a Wedding"; the high-pitched ahhs when Thom mentions sirens singing in "There There"; the quiet "sha na na nas" also in "There There"; the lines about the Big Bad Wolf threatening Thom's kids if he "squeals to the cops" in "A Wolf at the Door" (these lyrics are probably appealing to me because of the Law & Order obsession I've got). I just think a lot of it is kind of lifeless.

#4 — June 13, 2003 @ 20:44PM — jason [URL]

I admit I must give it more of a listen.

Good post

#5 — September 9, 2005 @ 10:42AM — Marcos Alcorta

Both of these Records are awesome though they're not the best from theirs authors. I think that we're talking about two of the best artists in modern music. But their special way to work with music as a craft, lead them to the highests places in our planet's sound.

Besides them, there are Tool, Björk, Sigur Rós, Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada, and more stuff like these... these people are keeping the real music alive in our World...

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