It's one thing you suggesting an `unexplainable phenomenon' may have occured. But the young girl had said before it happened that the Lady in White promised her there was going to be a Miracle. How would she know that??

Yes, it's a significantly mysterious phenomenon. It COULD be that it was a miracle from God, or some kind of naturally occuring psychic power of the girls, or lord knows what.

My main point here, though, is that even as a religious skeptic I can't dismiss strongly documented phenomena simply because they don't conveniently fit into my worldview.

Good for you: skeptical even of skepticism. Everything in moderaion, even moderation, which means you can binge from time to time.

What would be pertinent to know is if this phenomenon was visible to others outside of the area. I realize that 70,000 people witnessed it, but I'm assuming they were in the immediate area. I only ask this out of curiosity, because there is simply no way that many people could hallucinate the same thing. Were they hallucinating, they'd all have seen different things - cats dancing with mice, flying Cheez Nips, Police made of hamburgers, leiderhosen-wearing ducks, for example. What did people 20 miles away see? I'm assuming nothing, in which case the people gathered had a shared vision and nothing physically happened in the real world. Yes, pointing out the obvious, but it's in order to show how very odd this is, indeed.

If you are an atheist or merely a rational person, then you have to reject the "miracle" theory. If you reject the miracle theory, then some other theory, regardless of how unlikey, must be true. Even though it's hard to believe 70,000 people could have had similar hallucinations, this is the least improable rational explanation. We know from the historical record that many in the crowd were staring at the sun. Getting your retinas burned can explain why the sun seemed to move and dance in the sky. If you combine this mass hallucination with the power of suggestion (such as lots of people saying they see the sun move), then it's possible that everyone would come to agree that that is what happend. I don't believe there are any credible reports of anyone seeing the sun move who wasn't in the crowd that day. People in nearby towns weren't staring at the sun and weren't susceptable to the power of suggestion like the people in the crowd were. Also the people in the crowd were hoping to see something, and had strong religious faith. All this adds to the power of suggestion. So it's conceivable 70,000 faihful believers could have all had a similar self induced experience. I realize this explanation is not perfect. Does anyone have a better one?

On Jack's theory..
The Sun miracle was indeed observed in nearby towns. This is a text from an anti-clerical and masonic newspaper reporter.

Being a natural scientist and physician myself, I can't imagine any materialist theory to explain the sun-phenomena of October 13th 1917.
It is ridiculous to deny these occurences just because you can't explain them in a scientific fashion. Remember: a theory can never be proven, only be dismissed if it violates the facts.

You can't prove the validity of atheism or rationalism, so you don't have to reject that a miracle took place. Otherwise, you would base your verdict on materialist dogmatism.

I am not a Roman Catholic, not a Christian, not a Mason, rather a Pagan. But I do take the Fatima Apparitions seriously.

I've always been intrigued by this one. And as the old saw says, 'for those who don't believe, no explanation is possible, for those who do, no explanation is necessary'.

I share Mr Barger's skepticism, but even if this event actually happened, and there is no reliable evidence of that, to put any spiritual significance to it is surely wishful thinking.

Jack's explanation in Comment # 5 is plausible

You should not put a spiritual significance to the Fatima sun miracle, but rather consider the possibility. To believe that a miracle happened is a strictly personal conviction, an internal feeling that may be hard to explain to others.
From a scientific point of view, we are dealing with an observation (localized to about 600 square miles) that cannot be repeated or studied again. As such, namely as "single event", it cannot be a subject of modern scientific study. Attempts to "explain" such singular phenomena afterwards - as "sceptics" usually try to do - belong to the realm of pseudoscience if the basic requirements of scientific research can no longer be met.
Wishful thinking is very common, even in academic circles, leading to a virtual world in accordance with preconceived ideas. Realizing at least that the real world may be somewhat distinct, would be a major step forward.
Again, there is no valid reason not to consider the possibility that the Fatima Apparitions and the sun miracle were genuine manifestations of "spiritual order". I don not say you should believe them to be.

Fatima. What a joke.
I suppose that the next thing your gonna tell me is that you need to pray to Mary.....who was JUST a woman who DIED...just like the rest of us. Blessed woman-yes, very much so. Diety that should be prayed to? - not unless you want to end up in hell for praying to a false God (those are HIS words, not mine).
Ever take the time to examine the Catholic faith? I did. Extensively. Frankly, because I WAS a catholic and had questions. So, I did a bunch of research, and found out that I spent the first 26 years of my life living a lie, being decieved. The catholic is a HUGE bunch of CRAP that must just infuriate God. How do I know this? I know this because I KNOW the heart of GOD, because I took the time to read His BOOK! If ALL catholics would READ the freaking book, not the "catholic Bible", but a regular King James bible, NONE of them would BE catholics! Trust me, I was one, then I read the book TWICE for myself, cover to cover, and came up with the conclusion for myself: that the church is a fraud and that (probably) most catholics, as sincere as some of them are, are NOT saved according to HIS word.
Want a little proof?
Try this on for size;
Acts 2:38 states that, among a couple of other things, you must be baptised in Jesus name to be saved. If you use a concordance, you will find that the word "babtize" means "to submurse in water". When I was baptised in the catholic church, they "sprinkled" water on my head and said "in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit...." What the HELL is THAT?? As you can see in the book of Genesis, God is a stickler for doing things CORRECTLY, and does not give any room for leeway. I was never submerged at my catholic baptism, nor was the words "in Jesus name" used. So, according to GOD (the only one that matters) I WAS NOT baptised!! Thus, according to his word, NOT SAVED!!!
Think I'm an idiot?? READ THE FREAKING BOOK!!! FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOURSELF! The bible says "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling". Don't rely on some child molesting preist!!
PLEASE, if you sincerely love God, and want to be saved, DO SOME RESEARCH AND GET INTO A BIBLE BELEIVING CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!

The pity of it ! The Orthodox Catholic Church baptizes by total submersion. Which is, by the way, only the beginning of salvation.
Although pagan, but very well informed about the book and the various Christian creeds, I don't like to offend them. Yes, there are differences and sometimes polemics, but that is not a reason to insult each other.

Edward,
It really wasn't my intent to offend anyone. I'm just a zealot now that I learned that I was deceived for so long by the catholic church. It pains me, really, that soo many people are taking for granted their salvation because of a church leadership that is misleading and misinforming them. It's just so sad, that it makes me very angry.
ps. quit being a pagan and get on the bandwagon. Time's a runnin out, and you obviously know that.

It's a bunch of crap.
It was a vision/shadow of a tall, slender white woman with western features. Any idiot knows that Mary WAS NOT a white, western, slender woman. She was dark, short, with chubby facial features, as are ALL Jewish women of that time. Just like the catholic church has statues of "Jesus" in every church, portrayed as a tall, slender, white male, with feminine features andlong, stringy hair like a chick. Any idiot KNOWS Jesus DID NOT look like that, either. He was probably DARK skinned, short, and Jewish-looking.
Please see my previous postings re: the catholic church.

Alienboy, there IS significant evidence of some very unusual, inexplicable phenomenon. This wasn't some alien seen by one lone drunk cracker in the piney woods. There were THOUSANDS of witnesses.

Dek, you got no room to knock the witnesses of Fatima. It may or may not have been the virgin, but again thousands of people actually witnessed something with their own eyes.

This would be as opposed to you believing in the Bible, which events you certainly did NOT witness. And why would the King James version be presumed right, and the Cat Licker version wrong?

Something happened there, some really freaky stuff that we don't have any explanation for. I'm not presuming to offer one. Nor is this going to make me believe in Jesus. It would take a LOT more than this story to cause me to believe in ghosts and goblins and miracles.

Al, I'm sure you're as familiar with the phenomenon of mass hysteria as I am.

Until I see a way more reliable form of evidence than personal testimony, I'm going to rank it with such other fables as the parting of the Red Sea or whatever.

If you want to believe that something happened there, you go ahead and make that choice, but I'm still siding with the skeptics on this one.

Dek, I appreciate your reaction.
However, to suggest that the Catholic Church has deliberately deceived you with the intention to prevent your salvation goes much too far. The Catholic creed is not based on the Gospels alone, there is much more to consider, like tradition, the writings of the so-called churchfathers and philosophical studies about interpretation. The same applies to Judaism and Islam as well, not to mention many, many other religions not originating from Judaism.
The King James Bible is just a translation of the Septuaginta and so is the Catholic Canisius version; neither of them can be considered to be perfect because translations can't be, especially not if the sources are of remote date and the idiom is not fully understood anymore. It is not only a matter of symbolism or realism, we often simply don't understand what they intended to say.

Most interesting about the Fatima Apparition is that the description given by the children is that of Our Lady of Roses, The Joyous, completely in white (as confirmed by the Apparition in october 1917). Her skirt, full of golden embroidery, was very short, to the knees. She was wearing a golden necklace and tiny golden earrings, but instead of shoes white socks. Needless to say this is quite contrary to the religious pictures and even very indecent in 1917. Regarding the serious messages, the Church would expect Mater Dolorosa, The Sorrowful(blue cloak), or even Our Lady of Carmel, The Glorious (in carmine robe). Our Lady of Roses, in a white cloak, is really paradoxical in this context.
In spite of this obvious deviation of established doctrine, the Catholic Church declared the Apparition to be "worth of credence" (i.e. not at variance with the creed). Most apparitions are not recognized thus.

i wouldn't be so quick to say that 70,000 seeing the same thing makes it real or that 70,000 people couldn't have hallucinated (or believed they saw) the same thing...

what magician was it that made the statue of liberty disappear? and how many thousands of people saw it disappear even though it didn't?

i'm not saying fatima was the work of a magician necessarily but the idea that so many people saw the same thing is no reason to dismiss the distinct possiblity that what they saw wasn't real...

So God says to himself, Ok about 70,000 is a good number, let's break out the miracle! You like that? Who wants to sign up for this religion now! Best recruitment trick ever.

All in all, it doesn't really matter if it was a real miracle or a mass hallicination, maybe it got a couple thousand people to stop being jerks for a while...

All in all, it doesn't really matter if it was a real miracle or a mass hallicination, maybe it got a couple thousand people to stop being jerks for a while...

for a while? that's no way to run a religion...might as well break out a bunch of kilos of pot and a vat of oreos -- same effect and just as temporary...

The message of Fatima has nothing to do with conversion to the Catholic faith, with alleged condemnation of political systems other than liberal democracy.
The Apparition demanded from the Roman Church:
"The consecration of Russia (Russian Soul) to My Immaculate Heart - as free of sins - in order to save the world" What does that actually mean ?
It implies that all the bishops (including the Pope) should in fact declare the Orthodox as the true Catholic Church. The Apparition demanded that the West should denounce itself. This message outraged the Vatican and the Western allies of the World War. They tried to keep the message secret, to corrupt it and to play it down - they still do.
The three so-called Secrets are all dealing with Russia, both in a prophetical and spiritual sense and unmistakingly condemn the West.
Whether you like it or not.

Believe it or not, Dek Nasty, having once been a Catholic and no longer being one does NOT give you carte blanche to belittle the intelligence and judgement of the millions of people who do still follow that faith. Implying that the Catholic Church is not a Bible-believing church is just silly, and having studied the KJV and several other versions of the Bible (there is, btw, no ONE Catholic Bible), I can say that the King James is no more precise or sacrosanct than the other versions. (Why would the best version of a 5,000-year-old text in ancient Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek be a 400-year-old English translation?)

Having said ALL of that, I'm also a former Catholic (now a Unitarian Universalist). I'm not sure what to think about Fatima either. (And I even went to Our Lady of Fatima Catholic Church when I was a kid.)

Jack in Comment 5 has an interesting theory, but I have one big argument to it: out of all those 70,000 people under the influence of burnt retinas and power of suggestion, you'd think there'd be ONE witness to eventually shake it off and say, "It was just hysteria. Nobody saw what we thought we saw." To the best of my knowledge, nobody ever did.

Even the hardest scientists accept the idea that some things have no apparent explanation. I think the rest of us can, too....

Nobody knew in advance what kind of miracle would be shown. One of the children, Lucia, pointed to the southern sky, that's all. The sun's altitude was about 45 degrees, but there was a heavy overcast. How could they know the perception of the sun would be altered ?
I'm almost sure all those faithful Catholics expected to see the Lord in Heaven (Revelation, countless pictures in religious books)....
But it was a humble, almost extinguished sun in distress, wildly swept around and even thrown down for a moment. Disappointing for the faithful, but very frightening for the Masons present (unless you know about Freemasonry and their fear for the "Widow", the Queen of Heaven, you won't understand this). And all the masonic-liberal newspapers in Portugal therefore honestly reported what ominous phenomenon they had seen.
The Church was much more reluctant, because they are always afraid for "satanic tricks". The sun miracle had no specific meaning for them, but they soon understood what was shown.
Consequently, neither the Church, nor the anti-clerics, dared to ignore and ridiculize what happened in Fatima.

What I am wondering about is where are the 70,000 personal testimonies about this miracle. How do we know there were that many people there? How do we learn about Fatima in the first place?

How do we know there weren't people there who did not see a miracle?

And what about the visions the children saw, did anyone else see them? When were the prophecies of Fatima disclosed? Were they disclosed BEFORE the events they supposedly predicted? (A significant length of time before when it could not have been reasonably predicted that the said events would take place?)

I am inclined to believe that there was no miracle at Fatima, I think if something as big as that was witnessed by such a large number of people, it would have been more noticed by the rest of the world.

If a miralce WERE to happen, what would it have to be? As to making the STatue of Liberty disappear, is that not what the people were led to believe would happen? Apparently no one at Fatima had a clue what would happen. // I would, howver, be curious to know "how we know 70,000 people saw this", "what records were made" etc. Who controlled all that?

Only the children saw the Lady hovering above and standing on top of the tree. People in the vicinity saw the tree moving and some haze around it. The Lady was flying like a bird but had no wings. She did not look at all like the religious pictures of the Holy Virgin Mary, but rather as a pagan Goddess like Freya, wearing the remarkable golden necklace. Her very short skirt also points in a "pagan" direction.

On the contrary, the children did not see the sun miracle in the same way as the public reported. There was an estimated number of 70.000 persons present but at least some thousand confirmed to have seen the miracle. The description is mainly due to reports from educated people like journalists and scientists. The Catholic church also investigated the matter in a quite professional way (these reports can be found on the Internet).
We are dealing here with exceptional perceptions, not strictly material phenomena. Apart from this there is the content of the prophecies: even the best informed of that time could not have predicted these events.

At that time the illiteracy in Portugal was very high. In rural areas almost 100 %. Moreover, there was great political instability: the main players were either freemasons or clericals. Thus, the apparition was not suitable for the political ambitions of either side.

Two predictions were - in retrospect - indeed correct but publicly misinterpretated to suit the Catholic Church of Rome and to meet political pressure from the Western allies. For the prophecies concern the history of 20th century Russia. The so-called third secret is the most revealing and was also the most guarded: it became true exactly one year later (and confirms the Orthodox Catholic version of the massacre). The Lady then also said that the war was over, which was practically true for Russia, but not for the West (July 1917).

Anyway, it seems that the demands of the Lady were finally met in 2000 (Consecration of Russia during Pres. Putin's inauguration), sothat the "world will be saved". Although, as yet, it is hardly conceivable how.

If there is always the possibility that what we see is a delusion, I do not know how a critic would ever be convinced of a miracle even if one were to occur. (Don't most events happen before our eyes? Is this tuna sandwich before me really real?) That the Catholic Church regognized this one says a lot becasue they generally shy away from this stuff (it is not necessary for Catholics to put faith in it). The accounts I read taken at Fatima are all pretty amazing, and in answer to an earlier commnet, I do believe the miracle was seen from far away as well. I would like to NOT believe in Fatima, but it's just kind of mindboggling.

On ontology: it has been an "extremist" standpoint in philosophy that reality does not exist without the observer. This view leads to unsurmountable difficulties if more, independent, observers are involved. However, I experienced non-material visions myself. A striking example:

Together with my son I was walking in the dunes when a pretty lady, wearing a short brown cape, and accompanied by a dog, passed us. Being divorced, I at once decided to follow her at close distance... After a steep climb along a path in the sand she reached the top of a dune and disappeared from sight. When we reached the top she was nowhere to see. There was no place to hide. My son suggested let's follow her trace...
I looked to the sand and felt frozen. My son was also amazed and said: "must have been a dune-nymph". All along the path, neither she, nor her dog, had left any traces in the sand, while ours were plainly visible. Beyond the top of the dune the sand was undisturbed everywhere.
As a stubborn scientist, I nevertheless searched the area, but in vain. On our way back, we met an older couple that also confirmed to have seen her when we first spotted her and their description of the lady was quite the same.
Needless to say, I have no explanation. But she appeared to be pretty real.

I am the Fatima Prophecy writing to you now. I was born speaking at birth. I answered that my name is Mary. While still in diapers, I told my mother that God had sent me back on a mission. I am the only one who has miraculous photos of my own collection as well as giving many out to others to prove this. I am the one born on the 13th as was foretold. I prayed for the Drew St. Miracle and the face in the sandwich that sold on Ebay is my own and I grilled the sandwich and was crying and where the tears fell, my face appeated.
I was brutally attacked by Satanists and nearly killed for my faith. I barely survived. I kept praying in secret for miracles and I wrote the poem Footprints which Mary Stevenson stole from me. I had prayed to God that someone find it on Broadway Ave. in Dunedin, Florida for the glory of God. I have prayed for many photos to prove what I said about everything. A Tampa Baptist Preacher recalls me coming to him and telling him,
I am Mary and God sent me back. I asked to come back. Jesus had suffered enough. Many thought I came back for revenge. I never said that but my heart does ache for justice yes. I am now 48 years old. I made many people rich with my songs, artwork, business savvy, and even was seen talking to UFOs in the rapture of the seventies.
No, believers, it is not hallucinations and you know the prophecy that a cult tried to portray on the movie, The Fatima Prophecy. I am not the cause of chaos and I asked the Video Rental to stop renting the video or I would ask God to curse them. I have prayed for many amazing things right before people and I am not trying to be someone I am not. I am a strong believer of God
still even after all that has happened to me.
I ask you to refrain from selling miracles that we are to show the world that God exists. Please, God does not sell them to you.

Can I sell this comment on eBay?

Fatima is one of dozens of apparitions of the Blessed Virgin. Along with Michael J. West, I am a former Roman Catholic, now Unitarian Universalist. Whatever happened in Fatima, Lourdes, Guadalupe and in that remote monastery in Poland belongs to those who were there. The experience they shared was very real. How it manifested itself isn't as important to me as the ultimate message of peace, healing and reconciliation.

What monastery in Poland is this? Haven't heard of that one yet.

Maybe miracles like these are Faith Vitamins for whoever needs them at the time, mostly poor folk. Why doesn't Mary appear in the middle of New York, DC, or Hollywood with film crews at hand? Maybe the occurence of miracles (and UFOs?) are just perks for the poor and the remote; the wealthy are too busy and just aren't paying attention.

That's a thought: it does say in the NT that a camel passes thru the eye of a needle more easily than a rich person gets to heaven.

I sure wouldn't mind some sort of religious apparition appearing to the powerful, wealthy, & arrogant & scaring the bejesus out of them all with visions of hellfire & damnation, tho.

Silas Kain is quite right in his comment.

Moreover, the apparitions of the Lady are not as rare as usually supposed and also not restricted to Catholics: I know of a great number of cases that have not become public because the people involved insisted on secrecy. They are usually convinced the Lady appeared to them for a very specific, personal, reason.

Seeking publicity may be a bad sign, for why should a Divinity - anything metaphysical if you wish - need unreliable human beings to propagate an important message to mankind ?
Why chosen three illiterate and powerless children in Fatima to convey such geopolitical issues ? Probably it was the best option and foreseen to be effective. Who else could have been trusted - certainly not the various authorities, politicians and clerics ! Not to mention the millions set on and murdering each other on the battlefields of the worldwar, incited by carefully programmed hatred in order to make big profits from the destruction of three imperial countries. And hatred kept propagating itself over the entire world. Who was not affected; still is ?
Mankind as a whole is undoubtedly the most evil of all species on earth and we should be glad that at least this Lady is anxious about our fate, for free.

Dear EZ, it was Karl Marx who said "religion is opium of the poor" (not: for the poor). Namely, religion as an institution. The apparitions do not belong to this class, are actually not at all appreciated by the religious institutions.

New York, Washington or Hollywood may appear to be the most important places for you. But be honest, would it make any difference ? Should the Lady humiliate herself, begging for recognition by the U.S. authorities or the U.N. ?
People might even think it's a cheap American propaganda trick.

MARY! [re: comment 29] Welcome to Blogcritics. Me casa es su casa.

Glad you could drop by. Being the mother of our Lord and Savior has to be a full time job, so I appreciate you taking time out to visit.

Come back anytime- and bring the Boy with you.

Edward-
Why would appearing in a more populated, documentable place be humiliating? The faithful, presumably are everywhere. Humiliation is a human aspect.

A long time ago, a fellow named Benedict Spinoza penned a book about miracles - pointing out that G-d brings his message to those in a way that they will understand.

What's the problem here? I read from at least three former Catholics here. One of whom rejects the Fatima event out of hand - and the other two who accept it.

The visions were brought to a young peasant girl in a fashion that she would understand. The "miracle of the sun" was witnessed by 70,000 people. It wasn't a hat trick, nor a message for conversion - the vast majority of Portuguese are Catholic.

The point of the miracle of the sun was to emphasize to doubting souls that "yes, there IS a G-d." The purpose of the Torah Code is precisely the same thing. "Yes, there is a G-d. See and behold! This is his watermark!"

As to the messages and the prophecies, I cannot speak - I do not know.


For Dek, Alienboy and the like-minded.

If something doesn't purport with your version of reality, maybe your version of reality is distorted. Dismissing the Fatima event is refusing to admit reality because it doesn't purport with your version.

What monastery in Poland is this? Haven't heard of that one yet.

This is the story of Our Lady of Czestochowa or Our Lady of Jasna Gora. Most people will recognize her icon as "The Black Madonna". I won't get into the entire legend; but, I have provided a hyperlink to a great site that explains who She is.

Now, where do I fall on this one? I have to say that I strongly believe that the image of the Black Madonna had a profound impact on the Poles in Jasna Gora. The Polish people were people of strong faith. Like the Jews, their country has been robbed, pillaged, removed from maps, etc. My family were victims of the cruelties imposed by Russians and Germans. Our Lady of Czestochowa has been a very important part of the life of native Poles for centuries. The fact that her image serves as a source of strength for millions proves that miracles can happen. Metaphysical or not, She has been the glue that has held Poland together and for that I will always be grateful.

Again, can't you see that the strength and resolve provided by the numerous incarnations of the Blessed Virgin are, in and of themselves, a miracle?

Personally, i wasn't dismissing it, just questioning it.

My "version of reality" is so undistorted, that i don't need miracles or proof to make me believe in God, i just do. Systems are for suckers...

RUVY: "If something doesn't purport with your version of reality, maybe your version of reality is distorted. Dismissing the Fatima event is refusing to admit reality because it doesn't purport with your version."

Maybe, but not so. Reality is what it is, not what we want it to be. Any other approach is wrongheaded at best and deranged at worst.

If there is a god, and personally I hope there is or, preferably are; the more the merrier! My point is, HELLO? Where are you, god-dude? Your pets need feeding and cleaning. Get on down here! NOW!!

See, nothing.

Furthermore, if human knowledge and understanding are growing all the time (they are, 90% of everything we know is less than 100 years old), what's the big deal about some "how to" manuals written x, y, or z years ago?

(on comment 38 by EZ)
Giving a "performance" in such densely populated cities would be nothing more than a publicity stunt and unveil an all too human nature. Thus,it would be humiliating for a Divinity of supposed supranatural powers to campaign for human support.

I do not need miracles either, but it may be helpful for some of the great majority to start thinking for themselves about more important issues than money making and sex exploitation.

I guess the megachurches are not putting Jesus first. CNN reports that pastors of several of these churches are cutting back the number of services on Christmas Day because it falls on a Sunday and Christmas is a "family day". Gee, where better for a religious family to go but to church? Among the churches curtailing access to worship or having no worship at all include:

• Willow Creek Community Church, South Barrington, Illinois
• Southland Christian Church in Nicholasville, Kentucky, near Lexington
• Fellowship Church, Grapevine, Texas, outside Dallas
• North Point Community Church in Alpharetta, Georgia

I don't believe in the apparitions myself, since the children described a white European woman as Mary (as someone else here already said), but I know something interesting that no one here has posted about yet.

I'm writing a novel, and some of my research is about the 1918 flu. Francisco and Jacinta died from influenza. I think part of the prophesy included their deaths, but I still thought it was interesting that two of the children had died during the influenza pandemic.

Many children related to apparitions of Mary died young, in 'glorious' circumstances. I've stopped questioning the apparitions and look beyond to see what good has come of them. If they are a source of comfort to those faithful who need it, nobody gets hurt. Unless, of course, the followers start imposing their beliefs upon others.

TO #37, The 666 man on Oprah Winfrey came to me as a teenager and said to me,"I am your son but you will deny me." There are many horrible things going on. I am suffering in the end times with you all. Yes, my own sister saw me fly across the room in her opinion once. I did it, she fell to the floor trying to do what I had done. Yes, people have been right in my presence to see things with their very own eyes, even professionals. I have prayed for the Drew Street miracle. I once lived in the Tampa Bay area folks.
The church did not pray for that. It was my answered prayer. I have a witness named Deanne Shere who attended kindergarten with me who heard me say that in my mid thirties, God would show the world signs and wonders. I was exactly 35 years old when I prayed for the Drew Street sign.
To make this more real for you,a Tampa Baptist preacher heard me at 3 years old, tell him I was Mary sent back. He said I could prove it by the color blue and I did that and more. I do not appreciate rude remarks and DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO either.

I suppose some of you are spoiled by me. I have given out many songs that made many rich. I gave away artwork all around the world. I have helped the poor, the needy, and even asked God for this emailing miracle of which Al Gore came to my house for and I GAVE it to the government. I have arts and science honors. I am not out of my mind.
Further more;it was already proven that I am the Fatima Prophecy long ago and held in secret. I prayed for the miraculous photos and I even have my own. The reason being so you could see them come to you and could not explain them so you can't say I am faking it. I am not a fake. I now have three living children as I promised my new birth mother that I would give her a life as her daughter but I told her that my birth was no accident and God would prove it later in my adult life. People, it is not what you believe, it is what it is. There is a God and the prophecy has been fulfilled.

I speak to God and I proved it. God is not a joke.
I am amazing. That is why they sing songs about me on the radio. "Her colors are blue and gray,
everyone laughs at her, doesn't anyone know how to pray?" Listen, not everyone laughs and all the ones exploiting me, you had better watch out. God will get you. The truth lies within my birth about the prophecy. I am the one who called down the fire from Heaven when angry too. I am the one who was tortured in this lifetime for my faith.
I have passed a lie detector test as well as tests the churches asked of me. I am trying to live a normal life, DO YOU MIND?

MRL has changed my mind completely on this whole issue. Where do i sign up?

God sent apparitions? What do you think about a baby being born and proves herself over and over?
And furthermore; I know the sinful world is trying to stay one step ahead of me. They lie, play games, and gather together. They think in numbers they are safe. Well folks, you are not.
God can get you. All of you. At one time. God is still with me. I still get prayers answered and being me is not fun or easy either. I am in a show me world. You want to read poetry by me?
Go to poets.com it is a workshop for poets. Every time I try to do something, someone messes with me. I am sick of this world. Hear me? Sick of it.
And I almost left with five UFOS in the 70's because I did not want to stay here with the lots of you.

So cast your lots folks. For I am one of you now.
NO matter what. It does not explain why I am able to ask for miracles and healings and also prove that I am a seer. While you figure out why God used a southern girl to come back and show the world a thing or two, I will continue where God wants me to go and what he wants me to do. It does not change my birth one iota. This baby was born speaking answering that her name is Mary at birth. It is my life, I ought to know. I also told many about the miraculous photos before they came out. So people, don't mess with me. I am really sick of it.

MRL: this is some kind of post-modern comedy thing, right?

Do you pray? Or are you just one big time iffer?

I pray. I pray to prove that God speaks to me and hears me as well. I have prayed for healings, miracles, insight, UFOS to come for me, and many other things. It is not funny to me.

Ok world, God sent his only begotten son ONCE and once was enough. In his suffering, he proved there is a Heaven, and in my birth, I prove something else. God is awesome.

Oh yes, Jessica Simpson sings my love song I sang called You Take My Breath Away and many sing my song I Am Every Woman but you would have to ask Michael Turner about that.

Tell you what, get this god person to pop round to explain it...

Lee Ann Womack stole my song I Hope You Dance that I sang to her cousins sitting on a beach blnaket at Dunedin Causeway. People are evil these days. They have little respect for anyone else except themselves. They lie like a rug and steal anything they can get their hands on and in my case, their ears on.

You don't tell me, I tell you.

When Pope John Paul lay dying, I prayed to God and him. Do you wonder why he put an M on his casket?

The fact is, I was born with black hair and at birth, the doctor asked my mother, what are you going to name your red haired daughter? I saw it under my head when it fell out. Pitch black folks.
She wanted a red haired daughter and God gave me red hair even if they both had black hair. Do you not know there is more to making babies than DNA
and two? God is in on it.

go on...

My whole life proves there is a God. No more debates. IT is finished. Times are evil again and I am still praying. I will swear on my deathbed that I am Mary reborn and to God, all the miracles I pray for, to his name be the glory.
No, it is not joking. I am not mentally ill. I was born reincarnated, how would you like to be born like this? It is very hard. I can tell you
that. Oh and the part about God coming down?
You know, you might make me say something you don't like. I am a mother and I will not forgive again for what happened the first time.

MRL is onto something here.

Who ever you are reading this, I was two years old knocking on doors in Tampa, Florida asking people, Do you know who Jesus was/is? He was the son of God and he loves us. Anyone from Tampa who remembers me, please answer.

I made the first cabbage patch doll for Alice Klett who heard my prayers to God for some decent clothing. I was called cabbage patch because I had a big round head. Thus, now you know why the cabbage patch dolls are called that.

I also qualify for my outstanding charity and business ideas GIVEN away for zero dollars folks.
Around the world people were made rich by me.

I have already asked for some of the most amazing signs the world shall ever see. Beleve it or not.

I guess you had to be there folks.

13 is the letter M in the English alphabet and also when God told me I must be born to Elaine Reynolds.

i remember you from Tampa! You're that redheaded two year old telling me about Jesus. It really affected me. It must be quite difficult to be reborn as the Virgin Mary in this day and age. Your appearances around the world change a lot of peoples lives, you know. I'm glad you're doing some good.

Is this what you wanted folks? Why? Why do you want me here?

Where did we live? #52 if it is really you who knows about this red haired girl. The church I went to tell the people I was reincarnated was the color pink.

I am looking for the Tampa Baptist Preacher who recalls a woman taking a little girl in private to hear what she had to say again to the preacher of a pink Baptist Church in Tampa, Florida. Yes, this is me. I walked there by myself, remember?

I have a gold seal on my forehead that God himself showed to me if that helps you to decide if I am really her or not. Why would I lie about something so personal and to me so important as this? I am the one who prayed to God, show them how sad I am, and statues of "Mary" wept, even tears of blood. Yes, my head was bashed in and you should have seen the blood come from my eyes.
I know what it is to suffer folks.

Tell us why do you think your head was bashed in? How could someone DO that?

Some one remembers a little girl in Tampa, come on believers, it is time to tell the world, you know that. Tampa hey Tampa, people living near Hillsborough park and Busch Gardens, do I get a witness?

Who do you think you are right now asking me?

Why should the world listen to you?

God loves me folks, I was out praying as a child
and I do not pray to the devil. God answers prayers and I do start out, Dear God, and I end them with Amen.

Perhaps when you come around without your pride and prejudices, I can relate to this world but until then, you are babes in Christ.

I was in a Catholic church in New Milford, Pa.
(Off Main St.) I am a believer folks. I told the priest I am Mary born again, does that sound strange to you? He said no, we know who you are.
You are glad your mother at least gave you the middle name of Marie, a form of Mary. Right on.
That is correct.

And folks, Richard Burns of Wilkes Barre, Pa was in the car with me while God's angel scratched on the window next to his head right when I said God is going to show you something and it will scare you but I will explain. People saw that with their own eyes. He broke my windshield and the guys who fixed the windshield asked me about the window, I said, no, don't fix that, God did that.

"And can I pray to find water" I most certainly can. Ask Ralph Estabrook of Kingsley/ New Milford area of Pa if I did not tell him where God told me to dig for water and he dug next to it and got nothing. I shouted no, not there, here, and even though it was less than a foot away, he complained there was no water. I cried, God does not lie. He told me right here. I begged the man to dig again and water ran from there for years without any problems.

So you have just read the truth behind the miracles.
Good day and remember,
God wants your heart and obedience.

Oh, P.S. I did not authorize the book being mentioned. I will not buy it either. The truth is sitting here with me.

P.S. Folks when are you going to leave me alone?
When are you going to stop harming this lady that God loves very much? I won't stop praying but I could stop living the way you are harming me.

My color was blue in my last lifetime. One of the best photos was stolen by Warner Brothers in Burbank, Ca. I even included the negatives with those. So when the world stops messing with the truth, maybe Satan will go down to hell and say, oh, that woman!

Oh and Naomi Judd, you know me too. I taught you the song, Love Can Build A Bridge.

The Jessica Simpson song of which MRL speaks actually a cover of the Berlin song of the same name. I would expect the original author of the song to know who stole it first -- if that author was, you know, old enough to remember the Berlin version taking over the airwaves for a while.

As it happens, the song was written by Giorgio Moroder and Tom Whitlock, or, I guess, stolen from Mary by them. :-)

I lived my songs. Others stole them because they could and did. Too easy to steal music.

I am who I say I am, and God does avenge the enemy
so all of you playing your little games, you have been forewarned.

If this woman swears to God on something, it is fact. I first of all, do know when and where it was first sung and who cares? The world? The stingy, selfish, lying corrupt world? No they don't.

Anyone that knew me can tell you how much I sang.
I sang any where, any time, any place. I sang about things going on, I made songs up, I even sang the Oscar Meyer song to my Mamma to get some weiners. I sang the Meow Mix song. I even made a joke in the store which started cuckoo for cocoa puffs commercial. Oh yes, I am the unsung heroine of America. Bring me your poor and oppressed and they don't do much back for me, including telling you who drew Barney the purple TV dinosaur and friends. I did. My drawings were also taken from me. I probably belong in the book of records as being the most stolen from person in the world.

You know, even if I was a faithist, I couldn't accept your silly stories and claims to be whoever when you link back to your own website...

Shhh, Chris! I was hoping she'd explain some more about songs that were stolen from her before she claims to have been "reborn." :-)

You are not funny. That is what the prophecy is all about. To hell with you.

Tell me more about these songs of yours...

You guys out there don't know who your messing with. I know her well and God has shown me proof that the baby born speaking is real and alive and would make damn sense that Satan would attack her in her youth. Children are vunerable and now she is an adult watch out world. The Wrath of God you fear not the Mother?
Well she is close to him and given the power of prayer. Without it she would not be alive. What did Jesus say?
Do you know. The people said how do I talk to God?
It starts with Our Father. She just wants you to know the Father. Something wrong with that mission? NO!!!

So no one has a reply to my last comment?

Where is the respect for a woman who does not lie. What is to gain? Saving some one from hell.

Can't somebody stop this ?
Look for professional help in the yellow pages...

Sorry, GR/MRL/Catherine Rose, not all of us are preternaturally awake around the clock, and I went to see a movie.

This is all fun and stuff, but I'll play along long enough to say that the ends do not justify the means. Assuming one were un-crazy and honestly trying to promote Christianity, or whatever it is you're doing, then one would not be justified in doing whatever it took to carry out that mission.

So lying, for example, in order to get people to believe in Christianity, would be foolish.

My Grandfather was at the Miracle of the Sun in 1917. I am a direct decendant of a family who have no doubt that it happened he was just 17 years old at the time. My mother God rest her soul was named Maria after the holy Vrigin. I have been to Portugal and been to that shrine also. Yes I was sceptical at first that she could be re-incarnated. Don't some of you know that all things are possible with God. The Birth of Christ? God is the only explanation and still you do not believe. Stop what faith, hope. and LOVE. Go some where where there is no love and get off this blog. Mary is back and take your doubts like Thomas in the bible to some one who cares.
Rev 12 in part is true. Chaos is caused by evil. Not by the Holy Mother. When this earth is split in three pieces will you see the light then? For you it may be to late. Time to wake up and smell the roses now. Do the Satues Cry? Why? Sorrow for the lost souls who will go to hell? Dummies. Sorrow for the Cruel Death of and innocent Child of God named Jesus. Sorrow for the ones who steal, torture the Living Mary in this time from 1956 till today. Miracles are from God only. His work only and he performs those such miracles for his own believers. Heals the sick, saves the dying and protects us from Satan. If you cannot repent and change you shall see the wrath of God and be baptisted by fire not water. He promised not to flood the earth. Fire was not on the list of promises. Get it. Asteriod? God only knows
He promised everlasting life if you believe in Jesus.
I shall take the hard road of persecution for his Glory and my soul belongs to the Lord. NOT YOU.

I am not promoting anything but Faith in God. If you don't want to read it there are a million other blogs out there. I just want to talk with like minded Christians. I will talk with anyone as long as I am not attacked for my faith. God is watching what I say and do every breath I take is because he made me and he can take me at any time. I thank him every day for the sunshine and for the hard times too. It is called a struggle for a reason. It is not meant to be an easy road to travel ask all the marters why? Only John in the bible was the only apostle that died of old age and a natural death. All the othere 11 died marters for there work for God. So what are your chances without God. Slim. We will be marked by the 666. God can change that mark. Money is the root of the problem. Making sense now? Yes we must have it to survive but that is because of Satan. So therefore God will provide our needs. My rule of thumb.
God first, family second, work 3rd, and the rest of the world is last. Get your priorities in the right place and see how things can change for a christian in this world.
The harder you work for God the meaner people get.
Imorality, murder, incest, child abuse, famine, plagues, fire, earthquakes, floods, cancer, family against family.

Hi Friends of the blog that understand the Miracle of the Sun. Do you really know what that means? Miracle of the _______?
I do.
My Grandpa Leal was Portugese Royalty and wealthy blessed by God for his belief in the Mother of God. My Mother Born American so was I. My origins are portugese vast fruitful lands of grapes, olives, cork trees and riches. What is that message. You all don't get it? Someone tell me and I will verify it. Then it will make sense. What was Fatima in 1917 trying to tell the masses of people? To this day people don't understand that answer because of the darkness of evil and lucifer does not want you to know. Would He? I know. Ask me nice and I will tell you!!!

#103 Call me and God will answer. Whoa. Wow See you will. HA HA.

Mary reborn literally won't talk to you all no more. I feel sorry for you. Pitty. MRL is gone and won't tell you about her songs. Celine Dion Sings a song of hers called the Beauty and The Beast, The Power of LOVE.
Given the gift of music and poetry the basis of all music.
Duh!

#104 Thanks for your view on this. Got more to say happy to reply. God speed.

I don't feel the need to deny that this miracle took place. In fact, let's concede that it did happen. The two main questions I have are:

1) Why does god do these kinds of things? He could show himself in a way that could make his existence undeniable. I've been told that he doesn't do that because he wants us to believe in him based on blind faith. (By the way, whoever first thought up that argument is the equivalent to the inventor of the wheel in terms of tautological bullshit.) If he's hiding himself to promote faith then why does he occasionally show himself like an itinerant UFO to three people in Utah or on the side of a taco in passaic, NJ? Which is it? Is he just playing games with us like the aliens or is it possible that he's not as powerful as advertised and this is actually the best he can do?

2) My second question is: whatever happened to monotheism? Do Christians really believe in one god or not? The concept of the trinity already splits god into three parts all of which are really one guy. Is this virgin mary a fourth divisible manifestation of the indivisible god or something else? If she's something else, what exactly is she? Is she a ghost or an angel? Does christianity acknowledge the existence of ghosts? How many different types of supernatural beings are there? If she's an angel, was she always an angel or did she somehow become one? Why the "one god" requirement in the first place? It seems like a lot of tortured reasoning is required to maintain it in coexistence with all of these sub-gods? Why not just ditch the "one god" idea and go with a hindu-style cast of thousands?

My point in asking these questions is not to ridicule anyone's beliefs. Rather, it is to ask: since god is constantly giving us new empirical data by doing things like Fatima and other miracles, why are the religions that recognize these miracles so set in stone and unchanging? No matter what god does, it merely confirms the doctrine they already profess. Is it ever possible god means to signal that we've gotten some commandment of his wrong or that he wishes to change the rules regarding something?

#111 Good My Grandfather was there and they all thought the end of the world was now. Like a comet to earth you think you are going to die. So many were leaning toward Communisim at the time and many were changed because of the Miracle of The Sun. Did that suit God's purpose yes I think so and to the Virgin is a lightworker and angel I do believe. The Archangel Michael made war with Lucifer and won by casting him out of heaven. God knows we are visual people all to well. It clearly says there are angels, ghosts in the bible.
It also says we do not know what form an angel can be in. Therefore who's to say human's can't be angels? The Apostles were working for God. God can use us as messengers and does all the time. We are here for a reason and Christ came when that happened so the Trinity. Who will be the Bride of God? If Jesus was human and also the Son OF GOD. Then what of Woman? I am sure God is not Gay. He said he will come back and all will see him, all. That is judgement day don't you think he is busy preparing a place for us?
Yes I do and part of that work is Miracles. Bonified ones. The parting of the RED SEA truth. The significance of his Crucifixion many are so impervious to it. Can it happen to you? YES. Why? Because we are free to choose our path. He gave us freewill and wants us to see he is all powerful and GOOD, Merciful, JUST, and PERFECT. We are liken to his image, duh. Man and Woman both. So his bride confides in him and you know what he is the only Man that will listen to a woman. Intercession? Real? Saints? Well if they are of no help to us why even mention them at all in the Bible.
Many believe they are re-incarnated. I am not so sure I am, but I do believe it happens. Why would it not be possible for the Mother of God to come back and as a human. Wow. Then again Revelations is real and coming to pass. Be warned.

Oh, well that explains everything. Thank you. I retract my questions.

No need to retract a question. We all question God. Why do so many make it so darn complicated. A child will just believe in a heartbeat. Adults become cinical.
Keep your heart like a child and believe what you cannot see. The world is in your eyes and Satan is of the world. God is in your heart that gives Satan no room to play. God is not of this world at the moment. The final battles are ahead.
He shall carry you like Footprints in the Sand. Where 10,000 may fall ye shall not be touched.
Sir Lanka Tsunami 2004 a perfect example of that.
The City of Bamm in Iran Christmas Day 2003 fell from an earthquake. Do you need a larger sign?
OK. Hurricane Katrina,
Recent earthquake in Afghanistan.
The Space Shuttle Explosion in 2003.
World Trade Center 2001.
The Statue of the Virgin Mary Crying Blood in CA Nov, Dec 2005.

why are these signs? And of what? And why? There is much in what you write that I don't understand.

Get thee behind me, Celine Dion!

First of all the book at the top of the page has not been authorized by MRL. Did not Jesus say if you have faith of a mustard seed and you ask for a mountian to move it will? You would call that what? A miracle? Maybe he meant prayer. Still you question.
One big human problem that makes me sad. I have two teenage boys want to talk about hell. Well what is sad is Man is putting himself first not God. Think about it.
It breaks one of the Ten Commandments. Thou Shalt have no other Gods before me. Yes that will make him angry and I sure wish Man would figure that out. That commandment meant do not put anything first.
The Miracle of the -_______?

Al Barger. What do you know of the truth? In that book you are selling where are the Authors getting the info?
The Church? Dreams? God?
My Mother was made as a child to walk on her knees at the shrine of the Fatima in Portugal by her father. It is not about 1917 anymore it is about today and what is going on now. The latest Miracle was on headline news the other week. The Statue of the Virgin Mary is crying tears of blood. This is not a hoax. It is Gods work. What is he trying to tell us? I know the answer to that.

#77 The head injury almost killed me. It left me brain damaged and fragile. Five bricks fell atop my head off a high fence. I lived against the odds of my brain emerging from my skull and my skull being cracked open like an egg. I lived.

Satanists are always stirring up the mud. The world in the Bible means sinners and ones marked by the beast. When scripture talks about those of the world...you see? The second coming? Folks, do not confuse what Christ's holy ghost did for those who saw it. We see that the earth is still evil, do we not? The end of the world or world without end game being played. Still, even professionals cannot figure me out. They say nothing in their books defines me. I have already been analyzed but for when I was homeless and sad
and talked about WHY I became homeless and so sad.
The truth is I told them I was reincarnated, that IS not a lie. I told them I can talk to God, that is not a lie. I told them I can pray for miracles, that is not a lie. SO folks, I really don't need your remarks when you are not the experts on me or my life. Get a clue.

On the subject about song, You Take My Breath Away. As a teenager, I sang this love song to Michael Turner. He worked for Hewlett Packard.
We tried to marry and run off together and my parents forbid it. Things did not work out. But he was there as I sang three songs to and for him
and my neighbors were too and took all the songs I sang and marketed them without my persmission.

To those who are pretending that what they say is facr, let me clue you in. The government has already verified that I am this Mary returned. Get that? An apparition sent to Benjamin Franklin told of the Lady coming and things that must be done. When I was born, I told my mother while still in diapers, "You have named me Catherine but I am Mary sent back by God." Now folks she is about to die now. She is the only one left who was present when I answered the OB doctor that my name is Mary twice. That is all I said. No middle name, no last name. Mary. And for those of you who were not present at the birth, shame on you.
Because I know the consequences of lying about this. I am not lying. God sends the apparitions to prepare you is all. I have no control of that.
I do have control of the prophecy however and I am alive to prove things that must come to pass.

1. to be me, you must be able to prophecise
2. to be me, you must be able to ask for miracles
in front of people
3. to be me, you must be born on the correct date
4. to be me, you must have survived what may have
killed non- believers
5. to be me, you must endure endless lies told
by those who are serving Satan
6. to be me, you tell the world you will pray
for miraculous photos and they came out

So if I am in a world that is brain washed not to accept Christianity because of the way it has been presented to us and others harmed for believing, you can well imagine how tough it is being Mary reincarnated, knowing there is a God
and what I must do in the end times to stay alive
and also do my mission. You try putting yourselves in my shoes where heathens are always attacking you or doing you wrong and you never know peace anywhere you go because of it. Ahh, selah, you would not like that. Trust me, it is horrible.

Sorry, Christianity sounds nice and all, but Satan offered me a free iPod.

Joseph is the yellow in one of the miraculous photos I saw. That symbolizes him. The blue is myself. I have photos I have given away around the globe that I asked God for to prove this.
The Tampa preacher told me, if you are her, you can prove your color blue. So folks, if you want to run your mouths about prophecy, of which no one is an expert on because it is happening right now, you will only embarrass yourselves.

# 125
Is God a healer?
Yes
I have been poor for most of my life.
God looks after the poor.
When a gang attacked me, and I will get a fellow
classmate to verify that for you,
I was forced to smoke.
I became gravely ill.
I prayed to God to heal my lungs.
Before one of my attackers,
after saying a prayer, my lungs
emptied onto the floor
gobs of black goo after saying amen.
Folks. God can do miracles.
Can God not also love me despite
what Satanists did to me in 1971?
Yes, he can.
In fact, the truth is I was trying to preach
when the Satanists warned me to stop preaching or else.
They out numbered me, tried to kill me,
and one who is still on the loose is named
Nicolas Crowder.
So folks, you watch out if you believe and
try to witness door to door because
like the Bible says,
Some of us shall be killed.

ipod...Satan did not offer you.
I offered the world songs.
Recorded now by other people.

The people loved them so much, they stole them.

God does exist and miracles come from God.
People are lost, sinners, marked by the beast.
The end times is where people have become their own God and make and break their own rules so much that a war breaks out and chaos ensues.

But Mary! It's an iPod! Those things are like 400 bucks!

Mary reborn literally: where is this god of yours? I want to meet it.

#15 Nov. 3
Kids who went to school with me know that I am certainly "different". Eye witnesses and credible ones too, saw things you will never again see in this lifetime prayed at the time when it was called for. I do not show off for just anyone.
God is the deciding factor anyhow. I am not doing the miracles, I just pray for them.

On an unrelated note, does anyone know a good test for determining if a mentally ill person is dangerous or merely harmless? No real reason for asking this.

Oh Christopher, doubting Thomas and Judas rolled into one. Jesus did not turn stones into bread for Satan either. God does things on his own time
and trust me, I know more than anyone about that.
I don't take kindly to strangers as you can see,
I have been nearly killed by strangers and I have little patience anymore. I get angry. I cuss a blue streak and watch out. I almost lost my soul
to abusers. You don't understand. This is Mary.
But I was renamed Catherine.Prince Charles said," Bloody people," But it was the people that made bloody Mary how she is today. Statues crying tears of blood.

Everyone has the right to defend themselves.
I am no different. I have more right than anyone else in the world. For over and over and over again I was nearly killed when I had not lifted a finger to hurt anyone. So refrain from statements that offend and slander. The deal is this, I was beaten by six people in sixth grade until I was barely able to stand up. I had done no one any wrong. Do not talk to me about what is right for me to do unto them when I pray to God about it.

Mary: I am not either a doubting thomas or a judas because I don't believe in your cult.

# 131
I can tell you what was behind all the songs I sang, when I sang them, where I sang them, and why I sang them. People heard me singing in my car, out in the yard, at rest stops, at parks,
and even in my shower. A man downstairs stole about 20 songs from me I was singing out of meaness. That is why the sign is on Drew St.
I made people rich. Filthy rich.

No you are stupid is what you are.

Miracles are real. God is real.
My birth was a sign of the end times.
I have been told I am too honest for my own good.
But one thing is so,
God is still with me
no matter what the weirdos say or think.
It is not what they think
it is what I KNOW.

I too heard girls singing in the shower.

And that's when the restraining orders began...

#137
I could understand if you don't belive in the tooth fairy or the Easter Bunny or being too rich or something worldly.

BUT when you start to voice a stupid remark based on what?

Then you get me angry.

And if we can defend ourselves as a country
I can defend myself from heathens and those
who harm Christians to irk GOd.

I am here aren't I? Discussing with stangers the story behind the miracles? What more do you want?
It does not matter anyhow cause that is all you will get from me because coming on here is not the piece of cake you dream it might be. Being me is dangerous at best. The world is filled with all kinds of doubts, questions, and wonders. I did my best to ask God for miracles to make you stop guessing. That's all I can tell you. God tires of us being idiots and asking for signs all the time. He is not one to take it. God gets angry too. Good is good, evil is evil. How plain can he make it to you? There is a Heaven, and there is a Hell and there are lots of things we have ordained not God. It is our faults earth turned out like it did.

Has anybody visited Cathy's website? Nice place, you'd never guess...

So to me when you say you don't believe, that is like saying I don't believe the earth is round.
We found out it is round. To me, hearing you say your DUMB remarks, is like making Bill Clinton and Al Gore confess how they got rich enough to run for presidency...why do you act like YOU DO is what I want to know?

#132

MEET IT?
IT?
You need to find yourself a life buddy
and stop trying to get in on the action
without computing what you say first.

Bryan Austin of Montrose, Pa was trying to be my husband after the one I had two sons with cheated on me, lied to me, neglected his family, and abused me to the point I had to leave for my safety. Bryan worked with me and fell in love with me. Remember folks, I was told by my mother never to tell but the churches knew I was born like this and told me to wait to tell. Bryan was with me one night when I decided it was not going to work out between us. I decided to tell Bryan I was reincarnated and see how he would react. Well folks, I could not sleep. I got up, woke up Bryan
and said, I have something to tell you. I am not a normal woman. I am Mary reincarnated. God is going to show you my color blue and it is a miracle and he wants you to leave me alone. Folks, I lived without electricity and it was 12:30 am when the night turned as day and the room we were in was bright blue. This scared him so badly, he almost ran out the door. He said to me but I love you. I said, I am too ill. I am so sick I could die right now. I was finally put on disability. I was so close to death people, you cannot imagine how close it was. I almost did not pull through.

When you truly read my stories with comprehension,
you will know that I have no reason to lie to you that I am this prophecy. Some parts of my life are horrifying, some parts are wonderful, some parts Satan himself would pat himself on the back for nearly scaring me to death. Oh yes, you are conversing with the woman who prays for miracles
and it was so that God made sense to you not making cents for me. I am not getting paid for this.

And I am not in a cult either.I am my own person.
There are those who do things behind my back and I have nothing to do with them or what they say.
I did not even authorize this site in fact. I had told others to tell about the miracles but my life story, that belongs to me. ONLY me. I am no leader, no one trying to make a buck off religion, and my stories are testimonies. I am not on here for fun. My life is serious.

You never would have guessed what?

Yes, I write, I draw, I have given many people successful ideas and I live in poverty as my Methodist preacher guessed I would do. I was poor in my last lifetime and bore the savior, this one, I helped the poor even if I was poor. So what? What is it to you?

The dumbest thing to do is to say what I say is not true because it is true. People saw these things with their own eyes. Even a man who got his youth back in front of a Dallas, Pa corrections officer after I prayed for that.
So folks, I am not a legend in my own mind.
I am back and I am still alive. I was born different from you and I shall die the same way.
Nothing changes the birth of a baby born 7/13/58
saying her name is Mary and then all the marvelous things that happened afterwards.
NOTHING.

For all the iffers out there, not praying if it makes them feel silly praying to so called "air".
Let me tell you one thing, God talks to me. I talk to God. Joseph still sends me signs to cheer me up. For the faithful, our prayers do not bounce off walls or are to be picked apart for their merits. Do all prayers get answered by God?
Not everyone gets what they pray for. God is God.
Why I got healings and miracles and some of you did not may disturb some of you. One reason why I shy away from people because some are disturbed and they irk me to no end with their rantings and ravings and what have yous. I know the world has crazy people in it. Look what goes on? You read the news. People are losing their minds and bad things happen when they snap. I don't want to be around people when they snap. I have been around it so much that I am now disabled from abuse. Sorry folks, no public appearances. Give me a break.

I am always glad to share testimony with anyone.
I am not glad to be teased for who or what I am.
Being an omen in the end days is not for sissies.
I am scarred, marred, and almost tarred and feathered by some. Evil does not shine, it darkens and our world is still a cruel, cold, dark world.

War in Iraq.
Someone asked me, if you can pray for miracles,
why don't you ask God to stop the war?
I said back, first of all, I did not start the war so I cannot end it.
God gave us freewills and that is why we are in so much hock and woe right now.
It starts out when the reading in between the lines gets into the wrong minds and before you know it, we got a world that is lying, cheating,deceiving, murdering, war mongering, and going sex crazy.
To begin with, IT IS NOT MY FAULT.
I am not the devil.
Sin and chaos have been flaring throughout time.
The prediction was that again sin would reach God's nostrils and be a stench.
And so it is.
People through years of adverse teachings and mind control have given into the things the way they are and cope the best they can which of course is caused by poor government and poor examples running it.
Oh yes, the real bad guys are sitting pretty behind a desk,
almost afraid to peek out to a world they created
at their beck and call.
What we have now is from disobedience to God.
Sorry, but what it is is what it is.

I still don't get your story. One moment you're going on about stolen pop songs, the next you're going on about fatima, the next you're raving about people who have attacked you. Do you need some help?

You really say things Christopher to appease yourself. No one has trouble with what I say.
Why you? You got family in the business?
Stop harassing me.
I am not asking you for help.
I don't need it.
I lived a normal life, I am who I say I am,
and the miracles I prayed for.
No need of your mouth or say her