Good post, Ed.

The technology has also been good for not-so-serious musicians such as myself. I found Reason very easy to learn and very hard to stop using. I just downloaded the 2.5 update from the site and am having a blast with the new devices.

The tutorial CD that Propellerhead (I think) puts out is very good--it has lots of tricks that a non-pro probably wouldn't already know (I didn't).

i d like to kow how to record at home with limited accesories

Nicky, if you have a PC, purchase a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum card(i found mine here at www.shentech.com for $160). It has 2 line ins and other multiple inputs and comes w/ Cubasis, an easy to learn easy to use recording and midi program. It doesn't have all the powerful editing tools that say, Sonar 3.0 has, but it's a great starter program. Also, you'll want to buy a mixing board. It's important to run mics and things like that through a good mixer before going into your soundcard to really control the sounds you're getting. When I started, I got a Beringer mixing board. They're powerful little mixers and they're inexpensive. Check out www.musiciansfriend.com for that. You'll also want a good set of studio monitors or studio headphones. They can get a little pricy, but you can find them on musicians friend as well. Then for mics I would recommend Sure's SM57 and SM58. They're around $100 and under, and they're probably the most versital mics ever made. I've never worked in a studio that didn't have them laying around! So, plan on spending around $500-$600 and you can be off to a good start!

andy: there are easier ways of handling home recording. Consider purchasing the full version of Acid Music and an external 1/4 input device (something like DigiDesign Digi 001).

That way in combo you can have unlimited tracks for recording, Acid Music allows you to do mixing and mastering VERY easily, you can even edit unbelievably easily. Plus, many devices like the Digi 001 will record at 4-5 times the quality of CD's. If you have a good PC already then you can probably do it for under $1,000.

well dude, my was was under or around $600 and included mics and mixers so PLLLLLLLL! hehe. I started out w/ my roommate's computer, a Tascam 4 track recorder that I used for my mixer, and PC516 soundcard haha! I was given Cakewalk homestudio 7, and found a way to get around the limitations in tracking(except...not being able to access more than one input at a time).

I'm saving up for a midi controller to control my mixes, and I still need some studio monitors. Hopefully by the end of the winter I'll have a nice control room set up! Then I'll focus on buying expensive mics and crap.

nice setup. However you didn't buy Cakewalk... so if you x'ed out the price of Acid Music (which you should REALLY check out if you are using Cakewalk!!!!) then you only have to figure on the input device.

Acid allows you to mix, edit, duplicate, delete, move, master, etc. 10 times easier than cakewalk.

Now I'm using Sonar 2.0. It's an amazing program with loads of mastering plug ins and stuff. I don't master usually however. I would encourage people to take their project to fresh ears for that. In reality Mike, all these programs are pretty much the same. ACID, Sonar, Pro-Tools, it's just a matter of what fits you best. I know Cakewalk products well so I stuck w/ what I know. Sonar is Cakewalk's professional line. I'm learning Cubasis now(it comes w/ the Audigy 2 Platinum card, which is why I didn't figure in the price of recording software...it's included w/ the soundcard!). It seems clumsy and messy compared to Sonar, but it's easy to learn(good for beginners who don't need as many editing tools yet. Just want to learn basic recording).

Andy,

When you say "master", are you including mixing in that as well?

Who would you suggest people take their material to for mastering and/or mixing?

Ed

sounds pretty nice. I built a home recording pc for a friend and considered Audigy 2 for input, but we ended up going with an external hardware/input card that I can't seem to recall at the moment. Yeah, I've never heard of Sonar, I just personally found Acid to be more user-friendly and expansive than Cakewalk... but that's just me dinking around.

Ed, I was just talking about mastering. Usually I like to do my own mixing because I know the feel and sound I want. There are people who will mix for you, but they're pretty pricy. We went to a studio to record, and the mix was horrible, so I got the Pro Tools files from the guy and took it to someone who knows what they're doing, and he made it sound a lot better. The key is, how comfortable are you with mixing? If you're comfortable w/ it, do it yourself. If you're not take it to another studio to mix. However, you never will feel comfortable w/ it if you don't try it for yourself.

Mike, I never used Acid other than loop construction so I don't know how it handles. Sonar is more user friendly and expansive than Cakewalk ever was. The last version of Cakewalk I had was 2000, so I don't know how XP or Home Studio 2004 handles, but I'm super pleased w/ SOnar.

Hey I have a Dell Dim 2300 wtih only 256mb of ram. I have access to as many mic's as I could ever need a snake, a mixer rooms and all that good stuff. I want to be able to record enough tracks to mic a drum set and two or three scratch tracks at a time. I gues that would be 10-11+ inputs. I also will need a condensor mic for vocals right? I want to know what is user friendly that will go with me a long way until I'm ready to upgrade? What would work best with my Dell Pentium 4 1.8 ghz computer? Do I need more memory? how much? What is a good cd burner to get for my pc. Is it better to buy the audio card and use the software that comes with it? I am full of questions, but based on the equipment and the the # of tracks I want to be able to record what is the best way to go, and can I do it for less than $700.00? HELP!!!

Aarron you already have all the expensive stuff! You can definately do it for under $700! The thing you may have a problem with is recording 10 or 11 tracks at once, but check out this

this soundcard will allow you to record 8 tracks at once. You could record drums on 6 tracks(I usually record them on 4 so that to me is a luxury) and still have 2 scratch tracks.

Then check out Sonar 3.0 for a good recording program. You can get it at a good price here.

so that's about $700. I'm sure there are cheaper programs you could go with as well such as Cubase, but I'm not familiar enough w/ that program to recommend it.

For a vocal mic, I would say that if you have an SM58 or SM57 mic laying around, that will work fine until you want to shell out the money for a ritzy condensor mic. I've worked on a few projects and found myself going back to my SM58 for vocals because I just wasn't happy w/ the sounds the condensor mics were getting. They're such reliable mics.

You should have enough memory to get started. You'll know when your harddrives get full. The cool thing about Sonar is that you can save files as bundle files, so it takes all the fx info, all the wav files, all the track info and puts it into one file, easy to burn onto CD-R so you can delete projects off your comp and have an easily accessable hard copy of everything.

Wow, thanks that was fast! Sounds good I'm going to MF website to check out that audio card! I used to have a B-R8, wich I recorded my first home project on. I got really good sound but hated the machine cause it was literally falling apart. The mic I used was a Peavy Condensor Mic with the shock mount and its own pre-amp. I loved it cause it had real live, warm sounds for the vocals and acoustic guitars. I can't say that I love Peavey in general though! ha! Thanks for the help I post something when I get it all up and running (pending the wife not vetoing the purchasing bill!)

DOES CAKEWALK'S SONAR3 PRODUCER'S
EDITION RECORD VOCALS?
CAN I PRODUCE TRACKS ASWELL AS PRODUCE MY VOCAL TRACKS USING THIS PROGRAM?

AND CAN I USE THE PATHELON REVERBS ON MY VOCALS IF THIS PROGRAM DOES VOCAL RECORDINGS?

I DON'T ALREADY KNOW CAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT.BUT I WANT IT IF THESE FUNCTIONS APPLY.

Pete is a genius yes, but in addition, a very gritty do-it-yourselfer who had enormous amounts of ambition. Of course his ambition produced some amazing songs, recordings and eventually, matchless performances.