The Legend of the Lipstick Killers

Written by Marty Thau
Published March 23, 2003
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Similar incidents plagued their second tour of Europe. A major riot occurred at the Bataclan Ballroom outside of Paris when 4,500 enthusiastic fans were turned away for lack of space and were dispersed by police with clubs. During the show, Johnny Thunders smashed his guitar over the head of a fan who kept grabbing his leg. This, of course, overshadowed the police brutality in the media reports of the event.

The controversy seemed endless. For all their success with interviews (David could control interviews and deflect the most pointed questions with hip humor and finesse), incidents continued to hurt their reputation. There was the time 300 journalists from all over Europe assembled in the lobby of the Ambassador Hotel in Paris for a 12 Noon press conference, but the Dolls were not to be found. I opened the bar and ran up an $8,000 bar tab until the Dolls finally appeared around 4 PM. Mercury/Europe went berserk. (Actually I thought it was an excellent public relations investment and that the best press conferences are fueled by drink. The resultant rave publicity couldn't have been purchased for 10 times the amount spent on booze). "This happened to Elvis and the Stones," I reassured Leber, who by now was convinced I was an absolute lunatic. These events signaled the beginning of my differences with him.

We were in the second year in the life of the band and Mercury wanted a second album. George "Shadow" Morton was chosen to produce. The critics jumped all over it with a vengeance and pronounced it "too commercial." It was obvious to me that we'd have to suffer through a "critic's backlash." They build you up and then rip you down. By the summer of '74 the band still wasn't turning a profit. We weren't losing money and each Doll was receiving a $200 weekly paycheck, but we were barely staying afloat. What pained us most was that we were still unable to get across what was so real about the Dolls - they were simply a great rock 'n' roll band. The invisible walls were taking their toll.

First Johnny, then Jerry started shooting heroin; I noticed changes in their appearance and behavior. Arthur's alcohol intake escalated and he had to be constantly watched. David and Syl were aware of what was going on and became increasingly displeased. Mercury told me the second album's sales should have been better. I asked them how many new groups on your roster have sold as well and received as much press all over the world? I never did get an answer. By this time I was fighting with my partner, my record company, and my marriage was falling apart.

Once again we hit the road. A tour featuring the Dolls, Aerosmith, and Kiss - with the Dolls headlining - played the Midwest to crowds of 5,000 one night, 200 the next. It was totally unpredictable. Leber blamed me for Johnny and Jerry's substance abuse, as if I could control it. Dolls sycophants were whispering "get new managers, go to another label." I decided that in order to keep the ship afloat I'd take a back seat and watch Leber steer the helm. But I knew it was too late.

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The Legend of the Lipstick Killers
Published: March 23, 2003
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#1 — March 23, 2003 @ 18:08PM — san [URL]

The New York Dolls were truly seminal. This an important collection, and, on Marty Thau's part, an important recollection.

#2 — March 24, 2003 @ 13:38PM — Bill Sherman [URL]

Great first hand account. I'm a little bit peeved that this Millenial bargain disc has been released when we haven't gotten bells-and-whistles reissues of the two studio discs, but any Dolls is better than no Dolls. . .

David Jo has released two post-Buster discs of blues songs with The Harry Smiths. Both releases are worth checking out, though they're not all that easy to find.

I remember seeing Johnny Thunders in one of his last tours at a club in Chicago: the guy looked like a wreck, but, damn, he still could play . . .

#3 — March 24, 2003 @ 15:07PM — Marty Thau

BILL SHERMAN:
You hit it squarely on the head when you questioned why this mid-priced Dolls CD has been released instead of an all-out 'bells 'n whistles' reissue of the two studio discs, so I'll let you in on a little secret ... it's because Universal
Records (the new owners of the Dolls catalog) do not know enough about the band yet to go that far. Hopefully this Millenial disc will open their eyes and get them excited. Anyone who appreciates good rock 'n roll should know that the Dolls music will appeal to new generations for years to come. What can I say -- some things take a little longer than others. Be patient -- something blowing in the wind.

#4 — March 25, 2003 @ 05:49AM — Chris Clark [URL]

The new Millennium collection is fairly insipid, given the existence of the "Rock and Roll" single-CD compilation of both studio albums (minus "Pills" and "Showdown") plus bonus tracks that you can often find in cut-out bins for $5 or less.

And Amazon has both of Johansen's albums with the Harry Smiths...a remarkable new direction that conclusively demonstrates why the Dolls were the greatest white-blues band America ever produced, not to mention punk, glam and hairspray (would 80s metal have existed without them?).

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000066RLO/qid=1048588555

Also, don't miss "From Paris with L-U-V," a bootleg-quality live document from 1974, and the "Hard Day's Night" collection of 1973 demos that showcases the Dolls without the wolf-whistle production frippery of Shadow Morton or Todd Rundgren's "get the glitter out of your asses and play!" malevolence.

Thanks for sharing, Marty. When can we expect the movie?

#5 — March 25, 2003 @ 08:03AM — Bill Sherman [URL]

Rock 'n' Roll is a decent collection. But both studio albums are so set in my mind that the re-sequencing is distancing (as are the shifts in production sound). Plus I really miss the remake of Archie Bell's "Showdown." Still, the extra cuts ("Courageous Cat Theme," "Don't Mess With Cupid," "Lone Star Queen") guarantees that it'll stay in my collection.

In general, I've found these Millennium discs to be weak tea for fans: a good way for newcomers to test drive an unfamiliar group, though.

#6 — March 25, 2003 @ 09:01AM — Marty Thau

CHRIS CLARK:
A&R guys should not be older than 17. I like your website.

#7 — February 17, 2005 @ 06:49AM — Will [URL]

We have just opened the Official New York Dolls site at:

www.new-york-dolls.com

We hope that you will check it out and leave us your feedback.

#8 — February 17, 2005 @ 07:01AM — Will [URL]

I would be interested in getting in touch with Marty Thau. If anyone on this blogboard has an email address I would appreciate it if you could inform him of our official Dolls site

www.new-york-dolls.com

Or ask him to email me at:

admin@new-york-dolls.com

Kind Regards,
Will

#9 — May 31, 2005 @ 00:20AM — Rodney Welch [URL]

MARTY THAU, you rock! What a great article -- sorry I only just got around to reading it two years after you wrote it.

I bought the first Dolls disc this weekend, saw your name on the credits, remembered you from this site, searched your past articles and came up with this thoroughly complete first hand account. Thanks so much for writing it. It's a valuable piece of rock history, and I can only hope you've got a book in the works.

#10 — June 29, 2005 @ 10:51AM — Aaman [URL]

Wow - that's a phenomenal article, must now sample the Dolls - legit - just for you:)

A book would be a great idea

#11 — June 29, 2005 @ 11:06AM — Eric Olsen

thanks for checking it out Aaman - Marty rules!

#12 — June 29, 2005 @ 13:11PM — Walter Five

Great Article!!!

Can you please confirm or deny Blackie Lawless' claim that he was once a member of the Dolls?

#13 — June 29, 2005 @ 13:20PM — Eric Olsen

maybe the time is right for a book, Marty

#14 — July 2, 2005 @ 06:34AM — gypsyman [URL]

Back in 1978 when puck was hitting Toronto there were whispers about these guys from New York. The Dolls, and Johnny Thunders were all they could talk about.

It was a wild ride back then, music felt alive for the first time in years. Like all those things it got co-opted fast, by 1983 it was new wave, and then it was just the same old crap.
Old joke " what's the difference between a punk and a new waver. A new waver wears a pin of their favourite band on their jacket. A Punk wears a pin through her cheek.

Oi, Oi, Oi!!!!

gypsyman

#15 — December 1, 2006 @ 14:22PM — Kathy

Marty, just came across your blog. Way back when I was part of the gang of teenagers who used to hand out all the fliers for the Dolls' gigs in exchange for getting on the guest list. Also tried to start the Dolls fan club without Mercury support, and was sitting in Leber Krebs office when Laura Kaufman told us the Dolls had broken up. I wound up adopting Johnny's two Labrador Retrievers prior to their first US tour. Spent many a night at the clubs watching the Dolls. Remember you well, standing in the back of the club, with your leather jacket. Looking like the Hall Monitor with a gang of juvenile delinquents. The best collection you put out, the one that really represented the Dolls' music, is "Hard Night's Day." Only sorry that "Endless Party" wasn't included on it. It was always my favorite tune. Would love to hear a digitally remastered & reproduced Dolls catalog of both studio albums. Anyway, you did a great job with the Dolls. You made Rock & Roll History! Thanks for the great times, Kathy

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