http://blogcritics.org/ A sinister cabal of superior bloggers on music, books, film, popular culture, politics, and technology - updated continuously. en Copyright 2005-2007 by the authors Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:03:56 EDT http://backend.userland.com/rss Blogcritics.org custom software http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-730914 You cannot judge all Mormons by the one you dated & his family. There are sickos in EVERY religion & EVERY walk of life. Not all Mormons are creepy. In any case the Book of Mormon was written 170+ years ago when a womans place was in the home being a wife & mother. Everyone knows that's not the case today. The Fundamentalists still follow that doctrine but the mainstream Mormons live in the 21st century. 730914@blogcritics.org Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:03:56 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-730895 sorry mormons are creepy. i dated a mormon once. he ended up getting mr pregnat by ripping holes in the condoms we were using without my knowlege & was mad when i didnt want 2 have it or marry him. i later found out he & his sister had fucked, and their father repeatedly cheated on their mother. both father & son veiwed women as property & both laughed in my face when i mentioned i wanted 2 buy a house. they said "why do you need to worry about that when thats a mans job?" p.s to all u mormon women, read ur crappy little book of mormon again. it clearly states all women are the mans property & when ur husband dies ur not allowed to fuck or marry anyone else. however ur husband gets as many wives as he wants in heaven. a p.s. 2 all black mormons : u all werent even allowed in until 1975 when the passage stating blacks could not be mormons was finally removed. hows that for bigotry? :) 730895@blogcritics.org Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:09:53 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-730894 sorry mormons are creepy. i dated a mormon once. he ended up getting mr pregnat by ripping holes in the condoms we were using without my knowlege & was mad when i didnt want 2 have it or marry him. i later found out he & his sister had fucked, and their father repeatedly cheated on their mother. both father & son veiwed women as property & both laughed in my face when i mentioned i wanted 2 buy a house. they said "why do you need to worry about that when thats a mans job?" p.s to all u mormon women, read ur crappy little book of mormon again. it clearly states all women are the mans property & when ur husband dies ur not allowed to fuck or marry anyone else. however ur husband gets as many wives as he wants in heaven. a p.s. 2 all black mormons : u all werent even allowed in until 1975 when the passage stating blacks could not be mormons was finally removed. hows that for bigotry? :) 730894@blogcritics.org Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:09:35 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-715660 Regardless of any psycho-babble that fruitlessly tries to make sense of this,....the truth remains, and you're missing it. You imply that she "wanted" this. And that blows my friggin' mind. She was a FOURTEEN yr old LITTLE GIRL! And Mitchell was a grown man, for Christ's sake!....a grown man who cut through a screen and took a young girl by knifepoint from her home in the middle of the night. Shame on you for passing such lewd judgement on this young girl! I only hope you or yours will never experience the same hell that will no doubt forever haunt Elizabeth Smart. Because if so, I feel certain your tone would change quite drastically. It's easy to pass judgement from afar. You've had the time and the sound of mind to make assessments and decisions. But in the heat of the moment, who knows what we'll do? I sure as hell don't. Hypothesize it all you want,.....but until you're faced with the same perilous situation, NEITHER DO YOU! 715660@blogcritics.org Mon, 5 May 2008 23:55:18 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-701840 I just finished reading "Bringing Elizabeth Home", the book written by Ed and Lois Smart, along with the help of an editor. I strongly recommend that ALL of you read that book. It makes you feel the immense pain and suffering Elizabeth's family went through while she was gone, but it gives you that gut feeling that something just wasn't quite right with the entire situation. The Smarts repeatedly refer to their faith in an obssesive and somewhat creepy manner. Maybe if they prayed a little less and searched a little more, Elizabeth would have been found sooner. I do not think she ran away, but I believe there is far more to the case than what is being released. I can't wait to find out the whole story. 701840@blogcritics.org Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:57:43 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-696848 Its hard to know what to beleive. People say she should be more traumatised now of she was abducted but, she is just trying to move on. I feel for her greatly. 696848@blogcritics.org Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:21:00 EST http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-693468 If you read about the case you will see that she was tied to a tree and repeatedly raped and abused by her psychotic kidnappers.We already know what happened to her.It's all been public knowledge for 5 years.She did NOT have fun.The cops and the FBI found proof she was kidnapped and held against her will.Nobody would ever enjoy being free from her family for 9 months.There are plenty of answers.You just have to stop believing the idiot tabloids and internet trolls and look at the facts. 693468@blogcritics.org Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:39:47 EST http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-693460 I don't know what to believe. I would like to believe she was telling the truth and not just wanting attention. I have many questions to this case, Why would she run away? but also Why wouldn't she get help. She could have screamed its not like she wasn't ever in public. Maybe she was abducted and had fun, maybe she ran away, maybe she was brainwashed. You will never know. So why make everything more complicated. It could have been a setup or real. My honest opinion I think at first she was possibly forced and then she started enjoying being free from her family. If I was her I wouldn't want to be away from my family for 9 months. There are no answers to this case. 693460@blogcritics.org Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:13:40 EST http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-511994 The police found proof that Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped. They found the campsites in the hills behind her home, and at one of the sites, they found the wire cable that Mitchell had used to tie Elizabeth to a tree, the remains of her burned pajamas, several knives including the one Mitchell used to kidnap her, and a lot of other evidence. Besides, ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? That's the "concern" you think she had, which is a symptom of Stockholm Syndrome. And that little girl who escaped from drug addicts(Erica Pratt, who was 7 not 5) was not repeatedly raped by her kidnappers( Do you know what the mental, emotional, and psychological scars of rape are?) Erica's kidnappers didn't watch her otherwise she would not have gotten away. Anyway, Mitchell told Elizabeth that he and Wanda had followers watching her family's every move and if she tried anything they would all be killed. She is not psychic, she had no idea that they were lying to her. What if they hadn't been lying and someone had been killed? Then what would you be saying? Those 2 "old people" were/are completely psychotic. Besides what middle-class teenage girl of any religion would run away in nothing but pajamas and shoes(no socks), not take personal effects like diaries(Elizabeth has one), clothes, cds, tapes, etc., and go 9 months without bathing or washing her hair? Anyone who knows teenage girls knows that they're about looks and would think 9 months without a shower is totally gross. Elizabeth has a diary, and if she'd been planning to run away, she would have written it down in the diary(I'm talking about HER diary, not the one Mitchell forced her to keep). Since obviously the cops read it looking for evidence they would have charged her as a runaway 3 years ago. As for her telling the cops"You think I'm that girl who ran away" did it ever occur to you that maybe Mitchell TOLD her to say that or something like it if she was ever recognized? He controlled her through fear and abuse. Look at the way he has been manipulating the court system at his competency hearings since he's been commited to the mental hospital. He's a master manipulater. He exerted total control over Elizabeth through terror, rape, coercion, death threats, and neglect and abuse(sexual, mental, emotional, psychological, physical, and spiritual). She was obviously too terrified of him to try anything. And the reasons she doesn't talk about it in public are 1) she and everyone else with close ties to the case has a gag order on them-they legally can't talk about it, 2) what happened to her is none of the public's business, and 3) if you'd been kidnapped, repeatedly raped, horribly abused and neglected and God knows what else by 2 psychopaths, would you want to talk about it publicly? She has enough problems stemming from her abduction without stupid people accusing her of running away, which is total bullcrap. Her sister witnessed the kidnapping, remember? And before you say something stupid, like Mary Katherine was in on it(also total crap), how many little kids would be able to keep a secret like that with the constant pressure Mary Katherine was under? I have 3 younger siblings and they are the biggest tattletales in the entire free world. That's what most younger siblings do:they tattle on the older siblings. Mary Katherine idolized Elizabeth. Do you really think she would have let her run away? And kids don't need help running away, Elizabeth would have unlocked the door or met Mitchell outside if she'd been planning to run away with him. He wouldn't have needed to break into the house. Contrary to what people are determined to believe, all teenagers do NOT have sex, do drugs, drink, party, run away from home, engage in stupid, risky behavior, or commit crimes. Believe it or not, there is such a thing as teenagers who are good kids who don't do things like that. Just because she didn't try to escape when in public does NOT mean she was enjoying herself, it means she was too scared to try anything that might get her or her family killed. Those 2 idiots are not her "friends". They are abusive kidnappers who should never have been allowed to come into existance. Google Elizabeth Smart and read about the case before posting something stupid again. 511994@blogcritics.org Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:14:12 EST http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/14/144715.php#comment-511861 From the minute I saw this story I thought something was fishy. The more the story was talked about I figured the girl ran away. Then when she was found she tries to lie to the police about her identity, she shows concern for her "kidnappers" she goes walking around her neighborhood and she doesn't escape from 2 old people c'mon now people. This girl ran away! Why do you think she never talks about the case? Why do you think police and therapist say she may have been brainwashed? This girl has issues. Her family and the police know she ran away from home. If 5 year olds can break through ropes in the projects from drug addicts and run a few miles home, why can't a 14 year old scream for help when in public or at least run to her house being that she was basically right around the corner! Wake up people, she ran away with her friends! 511861@blogcritics.org Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:42:26 EST