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<title>Comment by infragreen on music lessons</title>
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<description>I&#039;ve been going around saying that rock is dead or dying for the last 3 years. I&#039;ll be 33 in one month. I grew up in rock/metal fantasyland and have been playing guitar in bands since I was 17.  I kept making these crazy claims about rock&#039;s demise until about 4 months ago.  I saw some very young girl in her small car blasting some hip hop. I really don&#039;t get hip hop.  This girl, however, did.  She was doing all the moves and I could hear her sing/chanting/yelling as loud as she could right along to the music.  Now how often do you see someone over 30 doing that? Personally it&#039;s been years since I remember slamming my fist or banging my head along to my deafening stereo.  All the above posts and articles DO have merit, but maybe we should just let the youth of today decide what &quot;rocks&quot; and what doesn&#039;t.  We had our time, and our baby boomer parents had theirs. Such is the circle of life.  I&#039;ve stopped judging and making assumptions.  Can we admit we&#039;re getting old and aren&#039;t to be trusted?  I think I have.
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:02:06 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by CinnamonStix on music lessons</title>
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<description>Hell yeah hawk. I like to hear of an older heavy-listener. Rock on
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<pubDate>Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:32:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hawk on music lessons</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/04/103451.php#comment-6166</link>
<description>Well have my own version of this story every year. I am a highschool history teacher. And my students think that Lamebiskit is metal?? Well, I soon change their minds when I let them hear the second album of soilwork, the latest Arch Enemy, Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir and Nevermore!! 99% of the time their  taste changes within a few month&#039;s. When were at the end of the school year I have a few metal freak among my students!!      
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<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:16:02 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Magnuslord on music lessons</title>
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<description>For a small minority, this is not the case.  I listen to Death Metal/Black Metal/Gothic Metal and Cannibal corpse,Avulsed,Dark Tranquility/Emperor,Dark Funeral,Veneficum/Tristania,sirenia,The sins of Thy Beloved are much heavier than motown, ie the tops or choir music or deep purple.  But, I realize that I am a small minority.  Oh well metal, real metal on the radio is truely dead.
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:36:52 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by markbrandt on music lessons</title>
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<description>I&#039;m 18 and rock harder then most everyone I know.  Avril is a waste of time...she wouldn&#039;t be bad, but people think she is punk and I hate that (*spits in someones face*),  loud in your face...that&#039;s what everyone needs.
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<pubDate>Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:19:42 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by CJ on music lessons</title>
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<description>We&#039;re not ALL soft. I&#039;m 18 and grew up on the soft stuff. Somewhere in there something happened (I&#039;ll call it puberty) and for the past 5 years I&#039;ve listened to pretty much all the bands you&#039;ve been talking about lately. 

You can rest assured that if I ever have children, they&#039;ll be tough as nails. If it kills me.
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<pubDate>Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:59:23 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by peat on music lessons</title>
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<description>It&#039;s not a &quot;Punk Rock Show&quot; unless there is a fight between girls with mohawks dyed green and one of them nearly loses her nose and ear at the same time by having the chain that is connected to them both yanked from her head. I saw that at the Exploited once in Denver. Now that is hardcore.

And I couldn&#039;t agree more with your first example of vintage punk Michele...The Misfits were truly a gift to our youth.

Other favs of mine: DRI, Minor Threat, 7 Seconds, Corrosion of Conformity, Exciter, The Accused, Suicidal Tendencies, Helmet, Ministry, Skinny Puppy, The Cramps, Circle Jerks, Nirvana and yes even the Beastie Boys who started as a punk band, I believe only to be told they didn&#039;t have the skills (ha).

Now that your kids are familiar with the gentle art of stage diving...you should teach them about how to deal with the skinheads that stand unmoveable in the middle of the pit. You haven&#039;t been to a punk gig until a skin head has worked you over for bumping into him (or her) in a mosh pit or for pulling on their suspenders so that they snap against their bare back. Good times. Good times.

Oh and by the way you know your 4 week old is hardcore when you see that an order for a Manson Youth album has arrived to their attention. What will it be today, I wonder,  Mr. Rogers or Manson Youth Genocide? Either beats the heck out of Barney.
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<pubDate>Sat, 8 Mar 2003 08:09:35 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by michele on music lessons</title>
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<description>Ugly American wins.
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<pubDate>Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:14:26 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by uglyamerican on music lessons</title>
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<description>My 4 1/2 week old auditioned for the bass slot in Hatebreed, got the gig, then turned them down because they&#039;re too poppy. He then punched them in the groin, stole their wallets, and started his own death/grind/hatecore group with ex-members of Agorophobic Nosebleed, Nunslaughter, and Mortician. Now that&#039;s hardcore.
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<pubDate>Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:47:03 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bat Boy on music lessons</title>
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<description>You guys are so full of yourselves. Dont you realise that every generation thought their music was better than the next.
Music changed, and the labels used to define music such as pop punk and metal werent dropped. Sure it doesnt sound THE SAME as it did, but that doesnt mean its any worse.
Forget about labels of musicality and youll all be better off. Besides its all opinionated anyway, If you dont think it sounds like punk than dont call it that. But dont try and pingeon hole a band into a genre just becasue you dont want them fouling up your favorite one. drop the steriotypes and concentrate on whats important. The music.
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<pubDate>Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:05:54 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Beerman on music lessons</title>
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<description>I worte an essay for a college English class on a similar subject just a few weeks ago. You know what? I totally agree with everything that this article has to say.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://players.gamernic.com/TheHitman/the_music_industry__a_downward_spiral.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The Essay I Wrote&lt;/a&gt;
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<pubDate>Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:03:56 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ryan p on music lessons</title>
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<description>champ.  you ever sat and listened to that ramones album of yours.  Every bit as pure pop crap as any boy band too day.  The ramones are nothing but 4 ugly guys how can&#039;t play instruments.  They sound like with down syndrome trying to sound like a bad beatles cover band.
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<pubDate>Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:43:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by iannau on music lessons</title>
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<description>I agree that most popular bands of today are not particularly musical, only barely innovative of proven forms (example: A-B-A-B-C-bridge-A.  Punk did elevate this to satire at first, but then even that became simply established form).
However, go to this link for some encouraging thoughts: http://slate.msn.com/?id=2069732
Maybe part of our problem is not teaching kids to look under the media surface.  So much crap is repeated ad nauseum through convenient channels that maybe they&#039;ve begun to adapt to it.
Or maybe it&#039;s the fact that we DON&#039;T get into their music that makes it more attractive.  It has been discussed in statistics that over the last several generations, many different cultural traits have swung like a pendulum.  One generation attends church; their children don&#039;t once they&#039;re grown, but the children they raise grow up to return to church in large numbers.  It becomes almost a way to define yourself as unique from what you&#039;re used to, and it seems to happen subconsciously.
Anyway, random thoughts are my specialty, but to return to my first statement, I have thought of a band that has become pretty popular and is totally comprised of very talented musicians: TOOL.  I listen to Lateralus in awe, after nearly a year of hearing it on average more than once a day.  Even earlier albums show much consideration for musicality and craftsmanship.
(And they were friends of Bill Hicks, too!)
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<title>Comment by pink floyd on music lessons</title>
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<description>feh, its pointless to make any statments againts the current music industry untill andrew w.k. is dead. Seriously, we should all focus our hatred in the music industry at andrew wk, after he is dead, then we can go back to fixing the crappy music industry. As they say, go for the queen bee first.
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<title>Comment by uglyamerican on music lessons</title>
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<description>My 4 week old called me a poser for listening to Cradle of Filth, then he kicked me in the groin, popped a beer, and started singing along to the fist Bathory album (on vinyl). Now that&#039;s hardcore.
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<title>Comment by The Theory on music lessons</title>
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<description>ummmm... my dad used to listen to Stryper. That&#039;s pretty hardcore.

peace.
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen on music lessons</title>
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<description>Oh yeah?? Well my 18 year-old was conceived to the strains of ...... I can&#039;t remember, it was too long ago.
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<title>Comment by michele on music lessons</title>
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<description>hah! My ten year old was conceived to the strains of Cannibal Corpse.
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<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/04/103451.php#comment-4219</link>
<description>Perhaps, but when our 3 year-old was in the womb she used to fax out requests for Bolt Thrower and Obituary.
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<title>Comment by uglyamerican on music lessons</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/03/04/103451.php#comment-4209</link>
<description>My 4 week old just bought tickets to the Milwaukee Metal Fest. Now that&#039;s hardcore.
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<title>Comment by dawn on music lessons</title>
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<description>I always listened to heavy metal throughout my youth, and I always pledged to not become an adult who scoffed at loud and raucous music played by the younger generation. But here I am, wanting kids to turn down the music not because it&#039;s too loud or I&#039;m too old, but because it&#039;s wimpy and annoying! Props to you guys who are ensuring that when your munchkins say, &quot;I Wanna Rock!&quot; that they&#039;re not turning on stuff that&#039;s fit for Muzak.
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<title>Comment by James Russell on music lessons</title>
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<description>&lt;i&gt;One thing you will notice is that virtually none of the artist today can be considered proficient at playing their instruments... &lt;/i&gt;

Lack of technical ability isn&#039;t necessarily a defect. Was Moe Tucker a technically proficient drummer? I think not. Was she right for what the Velvet Underground were doing? Yes. Same goes for Bobby Gillespie when he was the Jesus &amp; Mary Chain&#039;s drummer.
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<title>Comment by katydid on music lessons</title>
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<description>i am a diehard fan of the ramones, afi, anti-flag, and any random metal/punk/hardcore music i can find (well, thats in addition to the light fluffy electronic stuff and the dark twisted electronic stuff and all the other random shit), but i do like good charlotte and avril. i cant explain why...wait...yes i can. 

i like good charlotte cause they are somewhat of a throwback (in their videos anyway) to the underground punk/newspaper/comic stuff from the early eighties. i enjoy avril cause i like the skater thing, and i just think shes kinda cute. she also reminds me of a friend of a friend...although said friend is even more of the high energy, wacky, playing with things in the mall sort.

my current focus is t.A.T.u. a little russian duo who hit america about a week ago...though i&#039;ve listened to them for longer. theyre that same in your face, we will do what we like and fuck you if you dont like it sort as many of the early punk bands.
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<title>Comment by michele on music lessons</title>
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<description>My kids are a little too young for Bill Hicks, but we have the whole collection waiting for them when the time is right.
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<title>Comment by undertoad on music lessons</title>
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<description>in my opinion, you should not be able to walk the streets unless you have listened to bill hicks and
to the entire catalog of albums by x.
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