http://blogcritics.org/ A sinister cabal of superior bloggers on music, books, film, popular culture, politics, and technology - updated continuously. en Copyright 2005-2007 by the authors Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:24:28 EST http://backend.userland.com/rss Blogcritics.org custom software /archives/2003/02/24/135437.php#comment-782082 Well, you sure showed me. 782082@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:24:28 EST /archives/2003/02/24/135437.php#comment-782078 Wow! I didn't know that anyone could be as immature and inane as Tom Johnson in comment #3. You need not be so contentious and disputatious, Tom. The ad hominem attacks are so unwarranted. The extent to which you take yourself seriously is laughable. "Oh, and lighten up." Give me a break! "They are far too thoughtful as musicians, far too interested in creating thought-provoking music, to simply dump them into such a limited and limiting category." I don't know where you think you get the authority to say that ALL punk bands aren't thoughtful. <I>[Commenter, personal attacks are not allowed on Blogcritics, so please do not do so by choosing an insulting screen name. Assistant Comments Editor]</I> 782078@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:03:20 EST /archives/2003/02/24/135437.php#comment-612724 To everybody, I may not be as old as you, but I do know a lot about the 70's-80's punk movements. Yes, Fugazi was an emo band, however, they were also a punk band. Fugazi was one of the punk bands that did something different. They combined emo(invented by Rites of Spring), hardcore(invented by Bad Brains), punk(invented by Ramones), and many others. They are not a band to be classified, as #1-it is against what they stand for and #2 they were a constantly evolving band(as many other bands were, example-Dead Kennedys) I understand where all of you are coming from. I am not trying to shoot anybody down. I just want to say, you all have good points and bad points. Now, on to the subject of all punk bands sounding the same. As I stated before, many punk bands evolved. Punk really only started to sound the same during the mid-to-late 80's. There are bands such as GBH, who sounded much like the other bands because the genre was degenerating. Punk, like Fugazi, is not easily defined. You have on one hand Circle Jerks, who have a 14-songs-in-15-minutes album, and on the other you have X-ray Spex, a much slower band with a sax player. What I want to say is that you can label something punk, but that is such an enormous genre that it could mean almost anything. It could mean it is psychobilly, hardcore, pop-punk, emo, grunge, skacore, crossover, and the list goes on for pages and pages. Tom, I enjoyed your article. I just want to point out a few things in everybody's arguments. You are all right and wrong. Remember, after they did "Blitzkrieg Bop" and "I Wanna Be Sedated", the Ramones went through some huge changes(listen to their album "Too Tough To Die" for proof). So, Fugazi is punk(see the part about the variations). Or rather, Fugazi is just Fugazi. No genre, no label, no commercialism. Fugazi is a band that speaks out against these things, and acts on their words. I do not mean to tear people down, it's not what I'm about. I am a fan the same as all of you. Plus, would Ian MacKaye want his fans bickering like this? Think about that before you start fighting about him. 612724@blogcritics.org Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:08:04 EDT