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Insane Crap Posse

Written by Marty Dodge
Published February 12, 2003

Wraith: Shangri-La by Insane Clown Posse

ICP are back with yet another collection of their brand of (c)rap metal. A band more famous for their antics and their fans, the Juggalos, than their music, it's not hard to see why.

They have their own wrestling association (JCW) and a legion of morons behind them. This lot produce puerile crap with the sole intention of pissing off the parents of whomever is listening to this shit.

Included with this, their latest release, is a DVD featuring a live gig at their own Carnival of Juggalos, an annual event, said to attract 10,000 people. The visual is mostly of the group and their helpers throwing open or cutting two litre bottles of soda in the crowd. Quite what the point of it all is beyond me. Give me King Diamond or even Eminem over this please?

Marty Dodge

Marty's band, Growing Old Disgracefully, can be found at: Disgraceful Music. His Cthulhu tales can be found at Temple of Dagon.
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#1 — March 10, 2003 @ 12:53PM — Rob (juggalo)

Ya I have a comment about this bullshit U call an article
first off I don't see how you people here can critisize the Insane Clown Posse when you all just want some attension I think that maybe instead of Critisizing them maybe you should try 2 go out there and do what they do and sell an album. I persoanlly would pay to see you sell albums like they can. have you ever seen another group of fan's follow each and every word a music group or band has ever said like the Juggalo's do with ICP? I dont think so I find it hard to believe that you can sit here and call ICP crap when if they were so bad like you claim they are then why, why haver they been in this industry for over 10 years now. I think that deserves a little bit more respect then you show them here personally I think that maybe someone with a I.Q. over 3 could realize that ICP does on the albums what sells to the fans (the Juggalo's) so I think that maybe U should pull your head out of your ass and look at the real point that they are and will forever be remembered because they have stood up to people's bullshit like you and they still come strong everytime just to keep us fans happy and we like it wicked and we keep it wicked cuz you know what THATS OUR FUCKIN STILE OK!!! so Mr. Marty Dodge I think that u should just learn to deal with it cuz we aint goin no-where

#2 — November 7, 2003 @ 00:43AM — Yazza

Well helll I will have to agree with the comments by Mr Marty Dodge, that the fact that ICP are followed by a bunch of morons is very clear in the above post, I mean we only have to dissect the last post to show the below average IQ of the above postee, who the hell spells criticize with a s (unless it was for Gaangsta cudos-which I doubt) and the fact that the narrow minded fool thinks that fans of other bands don't hang on every word of there own beloved bands is very misguided, I can go on but I'm bored now.

#3 — December 14, 2003 @ 00:41AM — ICP SUCKS

ICP is followed by a bunch of morons, and they're led by to morons. Anything to do with ICP is trash, the people are trash, the music is trash....this world would be a better place if all of you went to the big trailor park in the sky

#4 — January 14, 2004 @ 10:38AM — curtiss

hey stupid if you ever say anything bad about icp i will find you and personally knock you the hell out your web site sucks and i would be more than happy to shove a two liter up your ass and screw country music

#5 — January 14, 2004 @ 10:45AM — Tom Johnson [URL]

Let's all give a big round of applause and thanks to Rob and Curtiss for proving Marty's claims in his review.

#6 — January 14, 2004 @ 11:11AM — Eric Olsen

I am shocked to hear that country music has taken up residence in an Englishman's ass.

#7 — January 14, 2004 @ 11:29AM — Mark Saleski [URL]

so THAT'S what's wrong with it!!!

#8 — January 14, 2004 @ 11:32AM — Craig Lyndall [URL]

No, Eric, I think that is where Faygo comes from. This is the "soda" of choice for the Juggalos I believe. They are an interesting species worthy of study.

Right up there with Raiders Fans, Skin Heads, people who have contributed to the career of John Tesh (I refuse to call them fans), people who enjoyed My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and finally people who enjoyed My Big Fat Greek Wedding because of the inclusion of Joey Fatone in its cast.

#9 — January 14, 2004 @ 11:37AM — Mark Saleski [URL]

uh oh....i enjoyed My Big Fat Greek Wedding.

#10 — January 14, 2004 @ 12:25PM — Eric Olsen

I was excited about the movie because I thought it was about a frat guy and a sorority girl and I thought they were going to make fun of pledges and drink grain alcohol punch and fall backwards off balconies and stuff. But it was just about Mediterranean-Americans so I didn't watch it.

#11 — January 14, 2004 @ 13:13PM — BRICKLAYER

Several years ago, while in a state of mild confusion and indecision brought on by the death of a disant loved one, and after reading Alternative Press' drooling, slobbering, lavish praise in a huge cover story, I went to the local mall, stopped by the corporate music store, and used a gift certificate to purchase some cd's, because buying cd's always seems to make me feel better (for a little while, then it's right back to the fiery depths!). One of the cd's I purchased that day was by ICP, based on the aforementioned piece in AP that slathered greatness on these guys like they were the second coming of Grandmaster Flash's and Faith No More's torrid love child (that's when I really learned that music magazines don't put bands on their covers because they like them, or think they are artistically important-they do it all for the money!). Well, let me tell you, I have heard alot of horrible music in my day, but this my friends, was the worst. And yo, I'm no snob when it comes to this stuff, believe that. I'll give anything a chance, especially if it's supposed to be either heavy, fast, or offensive. Horrible, dumb lyrics (offensive only due to their inept conception and delivery, not content), no ryhme flow, just pitiful. The only redeeming aspect was they gave props to the singer of Letters to Cleo (but insulted her bandmates, natch). I had to wash my ears out with large helpings of Eric B and Rakim, the first Run DMC album, and my cordless drill.

Anyway, the next day I traded it in for a remastered copy of Iron Maiden's "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son". And it rocks!

#12 — January 14, 2004 @ 13:17PM — Mark Saleski [URL]

criminy, bricklayer needs to blog.

really.

honest.

now.

#13 — January 14, 2004 @ 13:23PM — Eric Olsen

Bricky, you are a commenter of genius and when we create a Commenter's Hall of Fame, you will be its Babe Ruth and Chuck Berry.

Apart from that, imagine just for a moment the kind of minds that would conceive of a rap-metal project that would conflate the words "insane" "clown" and "posse." How about Maniacal Mime Unit and they can toss tomato products about? That's no less arbitrary.

#14 — January 14, 2004 @ 13:23PM — Craig Lyndall [URL]

Eric, had the title been "My Big Phat Greek Wedding" you might have gotten your wish.

#15 — January 14, 2004 @ 13:29PM — Jeff PEtermann

personally, I think any band who's only mainstream success is a remake of "let's go all the way" should be forced to drink the 2-liter referenced above that is stuck in the english man's rear end.

Eric, how about "Bonkers Bearded -Lady Battalion"

#16 — January 14, 2004 @ 13:33PM — Eric Olsen

excellent, and alliterative to boot!

#17 — January 14, 2004 @ 14:04PM — Tom Johnson [URL]

Maniacal Mime Unit

At least we know they'd be quiet.

#18 — January 14, 2004 @ 16:29PM — Eric Olsen

Yes, that was a special appeal, although clowns are better knows for honking horns than for rap-metal.

#19 — February 9, 2004 @ 22:33PM — JaKe JeCkEL

Just because a person chooses to listen to ICP dosnt make them a moron. The true morons are the idiots who are so quick to label people as morons just because of the type of music they listen too. I dont see any juggalos giving a fuck about what all you listen too. We juggalos can see past what you assholes prefer to listen too and can see that you are all naturaly stupid-asses without the help or influence of a musical group. If Marty Dodge would start looking at the bigger picture, then he would relize that he's nothing but a loser, sitting at home thinking of a diss for the next band that he personally cant connect with. You think that anybody who shows loayalty to a band is going to care what a washed up 45 year old homosexual is going to say about that band. Fuck you and your high-and-mighty web site review of The Wraith. If you didnt like it, then shut your fucking mouth and put something else into your cd player.

#20 — February 9, 2004 @ 22:53PM — shaun

jake, i will give you attaboys for at least explaining your reasoning for listening to it. Sorry jake though, but ICP make not make music. they have not good beats they are chickenshits who were chased off stage by eminem, and they have weak pathetic lyrics. It is moron music... sorry

#21 — February 24, 2004 @ 13:25PM — one uv the morons

if their music sux so much dont fuking listen to it!! nobodys making u so y dont u leave those hu do enjoy it the fuk alone! ya we may all be a bunch of morons BIG FUKING DEAL! IMA MUTHER FUKING JUGGALO N IF U DONT LIKE, THEN GO FUK FEMINEM!!

#22 — February 29, 2004 @ 20:49PM — one uv the morons

oya shaun,ud better make sure to read over the messages u write before you sendem u fuking illiterate peice of fuck

#23 — February 29, 2004 @ 23:57PM — Josh

Hmmmm, isn't this funny? Every ICP fan has posted a comment full of misspelled words and narrow-minded immaturity. Coincidence? I think not.

And I've noticed that most people say "ICP sells millions of records and their fans memorize every word and come to every concert, so how can they suck?". Give me a break! All that proves is that there are millions of people who are easily brainwashed by this bullshit. Okay, so they're popular, so what. Big fat hairy deal. Adolf Hitler was popular too. Who cares?

#24 — March 1, 2004 @ 02:18AM — Damelon Kimbrough [URL]

I thought Riddle Box, The Great Milenko, and The Amazing Jeckel Brothers were entertaining enough. I don't see what the big deal is. Different strokes, different folks.

I probably got some punctuation or something wrong, knock yourselves out.

#25 — March 1, 2004 @ 04:09AM — Josh

Also, I.C.P. stands for Illiterate Crackhead Punks!

#26 — March 1, 2004 @ 04:31AM — Psychedelic

ICP has lots of fans? Wow! That must automatically mean that they're a great band, right? WRONG.

You know the funniest thing about these losers? They're so full of themselves that it's ridiculous. I saw them on the Howard Stern show, insulting Ozzy Osbourne and acting like they were the toughest dudes in the world or something. I can't tell you how hard I laughed! I then realized that they were painfully jealous of Ozzy because of his great legacy and stature. They couldn't stand it, so they had to insult him. Way to go, guys. And their fans are pathetic, too.

"Yeah, we da juggalos and we kill you if you be talkin shit about ICP".

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is what our world has come to. Sad, isn't it?

#27 — March 1, 2004 @ 15:57PM — Dizzy

I for one am a literate Juggalo. I take offence that all of you would be so pathetic as to sit around and diss a band, just because they have fans, or do not make sense to you. Why does every piece of music out in the entire world have to reflect YOUR personal tastes and interest, hmm? I thought there was a thing called Freedom of Expression, also a document by the United Nations decreeing that any human being has the right to express themselves in a way that brings no harm to others. Personal opinions are fine, but I happen to find it sad that you must make yourselves feel better about your own insecurities by airing them out and patting one another on the back. For one, most Juggalos ARE illiterate, because they grew up in environments where formal education was either not as important or not present at all. ICP brings together a lot of less fortunate people who can feel a unity, a family. So, if you do not like people coming together for the purpose of ENJOYING THEMSELVES, then you are a sad, strange person indeed. I'm through.

#28 — March 1, 2004 @ 16:23PM — Josh

It looks like Damelon is our first ICP fan who's actually somewhat intelligent. Congratulations!

#29 — March 1, 2004 @ 16:26PM — Josh

Dizzy says "I thought there was a thing called Freedom Of Expression, also a document by the United Nations decreeing that any human being has the right to express themselves in a way that brings no harm to others".

Well gues what, Dizzy? Freedom Of Expression also allows up to express our opinions about ICP. And it doesn't harm anyone, it only pisses off juggalos, which is exactly what we enjoy doing.

#30 — March 1, 2004 @ 16:49PM — Chris Kent

I heard a rumor that ICP was actually Van Halen in makeup.

Now I'm not saying that's true or anything. But where there's smoke....

#31 — March 1, 2004 @ 17:07PM — Dizzy

True, true..you can express yourselves however you see fit. I don't think that I said anything about you NOT expressing your opinions..just that it was sad you had to find enjoyment in belittling people of possible mental inferiority, who happen to enjoy something you do not particularly enjoy.

and for all those even mildly curious, visit this website. http://www.paoracle.com/index.php?archive=77

It gives a brief delve into the history of the Insane Clown Posse, and an equal oppertunity, damn near unbiased look at the lives of the self proclaimed Most Hated Band in the World. Another thing that I find slightly humorous and pains me to a slight extent, is that mildly intelligent homosapiens enjoy playing "fish" with others who may have less intellectual capacity. No offence to any Juggalos, as i've stated before, most of us were brought up in questionable environments. You do something solely to get a reaction of anger, so you can sit back and laugh, saying "Look at these pathetic morons, they're getting mad over their little band, hahahah."

How sad is it, and who's the more pathetic? Those that believe so passionately in something that they are willing to defend it by any means, or those so morally corrupt as to exploit the former for said devotion?

I ask you, here and now, why?

#32 — March 1, 2004 @ 17:13PM — Dizzy

And another thing. The Wraith: Shangri-La is a very positive album, that uplifts many who listen to it to a state of near euphoria for a few brief moments, and has very little negative impact. Speaking from the point of view of a long-devoted Juggalo, it is artistically better than many other Joker's Cards in my opinion. Musically, lyrically, and in the overall flow, it rivals even Tales from the Lotus Pod, one of the best pieces of music i've ever listened to. Why must one's personal opinions of the artist taint the review of the art?

#33 — March 1, 2004 @ 17:49PM — shaun

their make-up says it all, they are a bunch of clowns and jokers. They are fucking joke of a group. They get clowned on by reporters and musicians alike. No pun intended. Eminem has chased them off stage in detroit a couple of times. And the morons that listen to them are the goofy looking white kids wearing mascara, with fish-net shirt, and braided hair. Pathetic and sad really

#34 — March 1, 2004 @ 18:32PM — Chris Kent

And the morons that listen to them are the goofy looking white kids wearing mascara, with fish-net shirt, and braided hair. Pathetic and sad really

Shaun, with all due respect, that sounds like a description of a Marilyn Manson fan rather than an ICP Juggalo....

#35 — March 1, 2004 @ 18:39PM — Dizzy

Agreed, Chris. Juggalos are nothing but dedicated, they wear anything and everything (and alotta times Juggalettes wear nothing at all.) Most of what you shall find is Psychopathic Merch at any given event, and face paint for miles. Diamon Rain, y'all. Diamond Rain.

#36 — March 1, 2004 @ 18:46PM — Dizzy

And, more to the point, what is so pathtic about wearing those things? A "White" male can't have braids in his hair, but a "black" kid can? What the hell? Get a fucking education, or be more attentive to your writing. Besides, why do many people form opinions of things that they know relatively little or nothing about? How many "critics" here know the message behind the Insane Clown Posse?

Or is a Literate Juggalo too much competition? Do you all desire a real debate, or just to bash some unfortunate fans defending their beloved band, all the while gluttoning over your mastery of wisdom and superiority of intellect? ANSWER ME THAT!

#37 — March 1, 2004 @ 18:58PM — Dizzy

No answer? Were my inklings correct? We shall see in due time. Granted, most Juggalos are what one of a "higher education" would consider ignorant, you should also see the happiness in which we mostly live. I am a racist by NO means whatsoever, and I feel that even distinquishing between people, E.G. "white" and "black" in such a sense as to base anything on a person's physical characteristics is ignorant in the highest degree. Now, calling someone Asian or African to reflect their culture and heritage is different..that is respectful of the life and history of a human being, not demeaning and racist. I got my equitable views from the Insane Clown Posse, and I think their message will be felt by many people before I meet The Wraith.

#38 — March 1, 2004 @ 18:58PM — shaun

Dizzy, it is not that they can't braid their hair, it is that white guys looking FUCKING STUPID with braided hair.

#39 — March 1, 2004 @ 19:05PM — Dizzy

Shaun, I applaud you for your last comment. It proves that there is ignorance on all sides of the argument.

#40 — March 1, 2004 @ 19:08PM — Dizzy

By the way, I am a Juggalo, and I don't have braids or dread locks. So your theory is now defunct. Kindly go eat a dick on the issue.

Now, reading more posts of yours, I am not anti-simetic..because a Semite is a person that was born in the Middle East! Most "Jews", especially those that control Israel now, hail from a European clan that CONVERTED early in the first century. I am as pro-Simetic as you could get...in thinking that Israel should be dissolved and the Palestinians given back their rightful homeland.

#41 — March 1, 2004 @ 19:34PM — shaun

ok dipshit i didn't say all Juggalo's had just said that the kids with braids tend to be a Juggalo.

#42 — March 1, 2004 @ 19:35PM — shaun

Some people seem surprised about what are called here pro-semitic bigots. Any person (and this includes jews too!) who makes a criticism of ariel sharon is immediately accused of being anti-semitic, anti-jewish, anti-israeli, etc. (Jews who denounce ariel sharon are called self-hating jews!). The epople making these accusations are by definition pro-semitic bigots. These pro-semitic bigots claim to be anti-racists whilst giving full support to the racism of the zionist state and the racism of the ariel sharon's policies. They promote anti-racism in both brutland and america whilst promoting zionist racism in palestine - currently the most extreme racism in the world. This is not a coincidence. Pro-semitic bigots promote anti-racism in brutland/america to establish their anti-racist credentials in order to make it seem as if they want peace in the middle east whilst backing sharon - some even supporting ariel sharon's plans for the deportation of all palestinians from their own country. Not only that they pretend to be integrated into brutish/american society whilst insisting that they will marry only 'one of their own kind' - hence the the number of jews-only dating agencies in order to keep themselves divorced from the rest of the population. Pro-semitic bigots are a part of the global zionist conspiracy for world domination because they all come out with the same arguments originally put forward by ariel sharon.

#43 — March 1, 2004 @ 19:47PM — Dizzy

Ok, Shaun..I am not getting into a discussion about Israel or Ariel Sharon. I just want to clear that not all people that listen to ICP are Juggalos, sadly, and that not all Juggalos are as they are portrayed.

ALWAYS REMEMBER TO FUCK OFF!!!

I'm really out now. Bye.

#44 — March 1, 2004 @ 19:58PM — shaun

later dipshit. Keep listening to crap

#45 — March 1, 2004 @ 20:44PM — Josh

The fact that people like ICP really makes me weep for humanity...

#46 — March 1, 2004 @ 20:53PM — Josh

Dizzy, I keep hearing about "the message of I.C.P.". What, pray tell, is their message exactly? Oh wait, I've figured it out, here is their message:

Wear a lot of makeup to cover up your dorky face, make sure you're lyrics are meaningless and trite (and that your music is monotonous beyond belief), wear stupid looking clothes, constantly get an attitude at people who disagree with you, and make sure to think that you're the toughest person in the world.

That is I.C.P.'s so-called "message".
I rest my case.

#47 — March 1, 2004 @ 21:49PM — Psychedelic

Regarding comment #36, Dizzy said "Do you all desire a real debate, or just to bash some unfortunate fans defending their beloved band, all the while gluttoning over your mastery of wisdom and superiority of intellect? ANSWER ME THAT!".

Look Dizzy, we only go by what we see, okay? Personally, all the "juggalos" that I've met in my life were narrow-minded, offensive assholes. That's the truth. They take this shit WAY too fucking seriously. I mean, come on, if all I said was "I don't like ICP", they would immediately start running their mouth and insulting me like I was Saddam Hussein or something. It's fucking ridiculous. What the hell is wrong with these people?! Are their panties on too tight or something? I don't get it. People accuse ICP-haters of being narrow-minded and biased, yet THEY are the ones who insult and criticize whenever someone disagrees with them. Is this what ICP has taught them? Is this the only influence that ICP has given their fans, to be a loud-mouthed, arrogant asshole who mindlessly disparages anyone who disagrees with them? Jeez, how pitiful. I know, I know, not all juggalos are like that, but I can definitely say that MOST of them are. I think ICP and their fans are in need of a reality check. These morons should realize that not everyone is going to agree with them. Instead of getting an attitude and whining like the punks they are, they should learn to deal with it.

Worthless, pseudo-meaningful ranting is not my idea of good music.
Sue me.

#48 — March 2, 2004 @ 00:13AM — Josh

ICP sucks.

#49 — March 2, 2004 @ 00:27AM — Dizzy

Let me clarify one thing. A Juggalo isn't just a fan of ICP. Most of ICP's "fans" aren't Juggalos, i'm sad to say. The message behind their music is to bring peace, love, and equality throughout the world. The people that you described are fanatics. If someone were to tell me that they didn't like ICP, or any other Psychopathic artist, for that matter, I really wouldn't care. But, when a person thinks that you're a "hater" just because you have different beliefs, that my friends is ignorance. Now, the original post WAS hating, and deserved a comment...but real Juggalos know true love, and it is brought in a few forms by music..but ICP are not Juggalo's idols, by any means..and they do not "teach" anyone worth being called a Juggalo. If you're a person that picks a random celebrity and hangs off of their nut hairs and eat whatever they feed you without question, you're no better than a pop, mainstream, mindless zombie. But, there are more and more Juggalos who truly feel the flavor and see the Diamond Rain. And Josh, ignorant comments like that are why i'm glad I at least know how to look into something before I decide to have an opinion on it. Take Eminem...I've listened to a couple o his CDs, and he raps OK, just not my thing. BUT, I do not hate him just because ICP had a fued with him years ago...I rather dislike him for being a little bitch and spreading anger and hatred through his MILLIONS of fans for the Juggalo world, but that is a personal vendetta from me to Marshal Fagthers.

Anyway, do not follow anyone..be your own leader. Beat your own path to Shangri-La.

#50 — March 2, 2004 @ 02:07AM — Josh

Leave the poor guys alone. It's not their fault that they're morons who wouldn't know real music if it kicked 'em in the ass.

#51 — March 2, 2004 @ 02:16AM — Josh

So my comment was "ignorant", huh Dizzy? Well, that's your opinion, I guess. Anyway, I can't believe that you said this:
"The message behind their music is to bring peace, love and equality throughout the world".

Ummm....WHAT??!!! "Peace, love and equality"?! Give me a break! Let's get one thing straight, alright? - ICP are just a bunch of talentless punks. Nothing more, nothing less. Their music is boring and monotonous, and worst of all, they're WAY, WAY, WAY too arrogant for their own good. I'm waiting for the day when someone beats the shit out of them and exposes them for the worthless frauds that they are.

#52 — March 2, 2004 @ 03:16AM — Psychedelic

Around 1996 and 1997, 80% of the kids at my junior high school were wearing ICP shirts and singing their "songs". The world was in this big ICP obssession. Funny how it only lasted for a year or two. Nobody gives a fuck about them anymore. THEY SUCK.

#53 — March 2, 2004 @ 05:49AM — Guitar Freak

Will someone please explain to me why these morons are so popular? I mean, come on, retarded punk wiggers in make-up and baggy clothes who think they're God's gift to music? Give me a break already. They could release 20 albums a year and I wouldn't even notice (nor would most other people). THE GREAT MALENKO was popular for about a year and then everyone stopped caring. Fuck both of them, especially that one dork Shaggy On Dope or Faggy To Dope or Papa Smurf or whatever the fuck his name is.

These guys give new meaning to the word 'overrated'.

#54 — March 2, 2004 @ 08:22AM — TDavid [URL]

I bought one of their CDs once upon a time. In Comic Book Guy voice: Most regrettable music purchase ever.

#55 — March 5, 2004 @ 00:21AM — Anthony G

The I.C.P. does suck. The reason why they fell off was because of that war they started with Eminem. Eminem destroyed them and their worthless metal style. Score one for rap, thanks Slim.

Josh, found ya again homie.

#56 — March 5, 2004 @ 06:55AM — Chris Kent

I went to the CD store the other day and asked a clerk for the latest release by the Insane Crap Posse. He sratched his head and said no such band existed. I said, ok, what about the famous rapper Reeces Pieces? He still didn't know what I was talking about.

What in the same hell is going on here?!

#57 — April 23, 2004 @ 21:58PM — juggaloj

Well, I've personally come to save the juggalos. I'm 16 years old, and I'm from Washington Michigan. I find that ICP is the music that I can relate to. Most people reflect their music preference to their personality *i.e how they dress, how they act, etc.* I can say that most people that listen to punk dress with stupid nylon chains on their pants, really tight shirts, and stupid haircuts. That's my opinion, but I don't go around forum bashing just because I have nothing better to do with my time. I stick with reviews that interest me, nothing else. People that listen to rap such as tupac sometimes dress like a moron in red thinking they're west siders. This isn't for all people, but if you were still in high school, you would realize this. I definately knew from the get-go I didn't want to be percieved as a gangster, or punk straight-edge kid. I really didn't want to be a part of any of that crap. I popped in a couple ICP cd's, and there it was. The beats (especially Riddlebox) just caught me. I knew that this was what I needed to further look into. Chicken Huntin' has a wicked sounding beat to it, and none the less entertaining lyrics. I must admit, they're not the brightest of the bunch, and it's ok if you comment on those notes, but making fun of the fans is not right. That's like making fun of people for what church they go to. I mean, grow some brains, get something better to do with your time than forum bash, and learn to review. Thanks.

#58 — May 5, 2004 @ 23:57PM — cay

ok listen i believe that icp is a great band and u can kiss my ass if u dont think so i am a girl i love icp but i aint a juggalette so there u go proved u wrong asshole so anyway why dont you just fucking try and understand before you go dising shit iight. fuck you

#59 — May 19, 2004 @ 19:14PM — JUGGALOTUS

Look you bunch of jackasses what one tends to listen to or believe in is no joke how would you feal if i ran up in your face and called your favorite band a bunch of pathetic morons who are worth less then my spit on a hot pavement Look the juggalo's are special people me my self i feal at home when i hear there beat drop or the first lyric played it brings people that dont belong to any of your "CLICKS" together where everyone has something in common no matter your race size or gender look at me i just recently went and saw dark lotus as soon as i walked through the door you can see the love and feal it going around where the fuck do u get off calling us a bunch of morons if it wasent for PSYCHOPATHIC RECORDS i would be dead no fucking lie all of u can kiss my WHITE FAT ASS

#60 — May 19, 2004 @ 20:10PM — Harris Pilton

Yeah...mmmm...see the love...feal the love... (whatever feal means). No morons here!

#61 — May 27, 2004 @ 16:12PM — shawna

personally i think icp rocks....ya some of the things they say r hella gross and gory but hey a lot of people like that kind of shit...just because you think the suck or whatever doesnt mean you gotta criticize them....just dont listen to em thats the way to solve ur problems !!!!!
ICP ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i love icp

#62 — June 29, 2004 @ 22:11PM — deadbodyman

what the fuck is your problem. all you people have to say is that icp is crap and we are all a bunch of morons. i am a 16 year old juggalo, and can see that you people are not that smart. look at the people that like country music and call them selves cowboys. thats there way of life. i dont like it, but i dont go dissen on them. the juggalo family is no differant than religious groups. my dad is a christan, and i dont hate on him.
why dont you guys pick another band to go diss on. look at the Hippies, they have dreds and smoke weed. just cause you shallow people dont like the music dosnt mean it is shit.
all you fucks need to get a life and live it. dont wory about other people and what we do or how we act.

you fucking people sit on your computer and talk shit but try walking up to a true juggalo and telling him he is a Illiterate Crackhead Punk. you likely to get your shit kick in.

hope to see all the juggalos at the gathering!!

peace

#63 — July 12, 2004 @ 00:39AM — voDKa

Employers: Would You hire a Juggalo?

(Thats a trick question, what with child labor laws and all....)

#64 — July 12, 2004 @ 01:35AM — Semi-Anonymous Banned Fella [URL]

1 - Music is inherently subjective.

2 - I am no "juggalo" but I did buy one of their CDs, and I thought it was pretty good. (And, as a side note, I CAN juggle...)

3 - Dissing people because of their taste in music is about as pathetic as you can get.

4 - The actual members of ICP have proven themselves to be cowards and buffoons. I don't like them, personally. But I don't like Madonna personally either. Or the Dave Matthews band. But I *DO* like some of their music. I, at least, am able to seperate the artist from the art. Can anyone else?

#65 — August 1, 2004 @ 12:38PM — Lissa

You wanna know what im sick of? People fuckin judging Juggalos and Juggalettes for how they look instead of their inside spirit. You motherfuckers judge people for how they look, thats so fucking immature. Trailor Trash? Bitches please, these mutha fackos have seen more in their lives of experience then your poor asses ever will. Ima juggalette bitch, and im willing to pay 100$ to any fucker dissin ICP, to actually go up to a juggalo, or anybody in Psychopathic Records themselves and diss them, you'll get your wig-split. We all stick together, world-wide, i know motherfuckin juggalos over in Scotland, and England. They're not morons, nor are they trailor trash, they're themselves, they're juggalos. I know what they're feeling when they write and produce their music, i've met and hung out with them. How many fuckers do you know that would walk up to you like they've known you their whole lives and sit down and talk to you? And they dont even know you? But they know you're down with the clowns, you're family in their eyes, we all been through shit together, and we all have eachother's backs. ICP actually will hang out with you after their shows, how many bands would actually party with you? ICP and other Psychopathic artists have shown more love then i've ever seen other artists show. We're not bad people, you start shit we give it right back to you, 1000 to 1, we dont fear any of you. We're family, we may look different, but we're fuckin fresh. And faygo commin out of some guys ass? Yo man, that shit is gross, you fuckin ignorant prick, grow some fuckin balls. Oh, and about Feminem. He started the shit, he basically used them to become famous and get people to listen to his shit. He had a little party back in Detroit, invited a couple bands to play, including ICP. A while after he was up on the Howard Stern show, he asked about the Insane Clown Posse and Feminem just fuckin dissed them. Next day Howard had ICP up on his show and told them what Slim Anus said, they're like "What the fuck? We dont even know this motherfucker." That my friends, is how the shit with that shit talkin ass came into play. Learn your facts before you start dissin. Bitch. About their CD's...They're underground artists, moron. If you're not down, then dont fucking buy the CD's, You dont even have to fucking care. WE DONT GIVE A FUCK. Overrated? Psssh, bitch please. I'll be sportin my gear and listen to their albums till im old and gray, why? CAUSE I DONT GIVE A FUCK. Their great, everyone has their opinions, but to me, personally, if you dont like them, you should shut your fucking mouth, and not say anything at all. So is anybody up for that bet i said in the above paragraph? Let me know. I'll be there to see it. ;) ALSO. We dont think we're better then anybody else, i'll tell you this tho, we're better then the fuckin haters on this website, everybody is a scrub, no doubt, we're all human. I dare any motherfucker to go and diss ICP or Twiztid or ABK or Esham, or anybody else in the Psychopathic Family, i wanna be there to watch them hang your head upon their wall. Bye bye now. MMFCL to all the juggalos and juggalettes who took their time to read shit. Love ya'all.

#66 — August 1, 2004 @ 12:48PM — Lissa

NINJAS, i forgot 1 thing haha. Tune in sometime...www.juggaloradio.com

#67 — August 1, 2004 @ 13:35PM — Lissa

Alright, reading into this shit a little more and seeing Josh in article number 46 sayin that their message clearly states the following: Wear makeup to hide your dorky faces, they have meaningless lyrics, stupid clothes, they get an attitude with people who disagree with them, and they think they're the toughest person in the world.

Umm, Sorry sir, i think thats bullshit. It's kind of like saying how in Africa, people wear face paints, and different clothes for their culture, and on Halloweend, little kids dress up to go trick-or-treating, do you diss them? No? Why not? What you stated is semi-true. What about Adolf Hitler and how he thought he owned the Jews and shit? Eh? I didnt think so.

Dizzy, i love you. We need more real people in this world who understand. Too bad they waste their life dissing on music groups. I agree with you on the message you've stated.

To you haters: We dont dress like everybody else, we may not act like everybody else, or believe in what everybody else does, why is that such a big deal? Whats wrong with bringing people together? Answer these questions please, i'd really like to know.

#68 — August 1, 2004 @ 19:25PM — RJ [URL]

I am beginning to think the hard-core fans of the ICP are more than a bit cultish...

#69 — August 1, 2004 @ 19:48PM — Matt Paprocki [URL]

Hey Marty, congrats on ticking just about as many people off as I did with my editorial on Grand Theft Auto. The only difference is you actually have people defending you!

Oh, and post 65 is priceless. Thanks for the entertainment. Now, think you can try writing something without using obscene language? Didn't think so. Initial review proven to be trust-worthy.

#70 — August 2, 2004 @ 02:48AM — Lissa

Interesting, thx for your priceless comment in which i did not give a shit about. If people say shit, they should be able to defend it. My proven point, haters are nothing but shit talkers. Fuckin biggots. Grow up.

#71 — October 4, 2004 @ 18:32PM — Juggalo Ninja [URL]

I'm a juggalo and i am not afraid to admit it and all you stupid fucks are just jealous of I.C.P.Juggalos have family and if you dont like us dont judge us because one juggalo means more juggalo we run in packs with hatchets and axes. Juggalo familys are strong and dont split.Fuck With One Fuck With All.and ozzy iz a big fucking joke same goes for Feminem.So fuck you all and post against me for all i care.

#72 — October 10, 2004 @ 21:18PM — Kyle

Not all fans are "idiotic morons." Some fans can be fairly intelligent, no matter how much that surprises you all. I have been a fan of ICP for near 5 years now. I am a college level student, and I have an IQ of more than a box of rocks. I dont really like people talking about ICP and the fans like they are all primitive club weilding retarded cavemen, but people have their opinions. I like listining to ICP because of the messages they try to deliver through their music, and some songs are just enjoyable. All you people are doing is stereotyping, the starter of this article, and those of you who are ICP fans. I have love for all of you, but when you say, "Im going to beat the shit out of you if you even think of saying something bad about ICP!" Then you, too, are putting us into a stereotype. Also, if you talk big like that, then you arent really listening to J when he says in "Juggalo Homies" "If you dont like me, you can fuck on!" When you argue back, then you are just as bad as the people who started this crap. Please dont think that I am against ICP in any way, but please, just look at what you are doing. Too the people who started this article, you are just looking for an arguement. Why? That can be the only reason that you would post something that referred to us as, "a legion of morons." You are entitled to your opinion, but when you voice it, you should actually talk about why, or what your opinion is really about. After reading this post I dont really see what you are trying to accomplish. Lastly, for not knowing much about ICP, you sure talk a lot of evil in this post. Maybe you should look into something and get some facts before you bash it and come down on it. If the author even checks this string anymore, but everyone, Juggalo's and everyone else, try and stop stereotyping!! It doesnt look good on either side of the spectrum.

#73 — October 10, 2004 @ 21:49PM — RJ [URL]

I own one ICP CD. And I rather enjoy it.

That being said, the hard-core "jugheads" tend to be a seriously deranged lot. (I've known one, and he was a complete mental case...)

Now, that doesn't mean that all of ICP's music sucks, or that everyone who likes ICP is a retarded goon.

But like all stereotypes, there is a grain of truth in it.

Anyway, I wish people would actually review ICP's MUSIC, and not their reputation or their die-hard fans.

#74 — October 14, 2004 @ 09:55AM — lissa [URL]

Umm, aight. Fine, maybe i was being a little harsh. I just hate how people judge us before they know us, i know its their opinion, but its fucking immature of them. Yeah, im down, i love the messages they spread and how they brung us all together, have your opinions against us, we dont care. We swing our hatchets proudly.

#75 — October 26, 2004 @ 20:37PM — TWiZTiDLiLONE

I for one am so sick of all the music out there. Lil' white boys pretending to be black. Ridin' the tail of someone who actually had talent enough to make a name for himself. Yeah, Eminem, now there's talent!

It takes a unique type of person to seek out a huge market, do what it takes to corner it, and then go Platinum several times. Y'all call me when Eminem does that more than 5 times.

There is time in every day I'm alive when I just want to listen to something that will make me chickle. Something that makes me look deeper, past the silly, to the real heart of the music. And yeah, it's music cuz you can mosh to it. ICP has a following of fans like no other. There's a reason behind that. You don't have to see the reason, in fact you wouldn't be able to see it anyway all the way down here from your high horse.

I suppose that painting your face is a stupid thing to do as a group, God knows it didn't do a THING for Kiss. Do you even process a thought before that tongue flickers?

There's a lot of twisted, messed up people out there, for some of them ICP is a sort of Anger Management, if you will. To just let your mind go and picture doing all those things you'd never really do, but think about when you're pushed to the edge. What? You've never wanted to slice someone's spinal cord? Remember, you're under oath.

Not all Juggalos or Juggalettes are morons. So I don't listen to the same music you do, that makes me different yes, but moronic? Hardly. If I didn't know better, I'd think you all a might shortsided. Hm.

Open your mind when you listen. Just set the suit aside and try to put yourself in the song. Whether you're in the mood to go chicken huntin' or just have yourself a helpin' of cotton candy and popsicles, you got from A - Z with these guys. I have yet to be disappointed.

So before you label us all "morons" ask yourself: Am I doing what I wanted to do with my life? Am I making more money than I ever dreamed I could? Am I doing what thousands have tried to do and they didn't succeed? If you're not, and ICP has managed to sustain it for over 13 years...who's the moron?

And before you discount me as just another teen freak, I'm an Executive with 2 daughters, a husband and just turned 32. I'm far from your "average" Juggalette. Show respect.

#76 — November 9, 2004 @ 21:46PM — bob

fuck u your just one of millons of fucking juffalos and u aint nuttin like a bitch thang like emenim and ur main stream bitch self

#77 — November 18, 2004 @ 09:59AM — lissa

Umm, well, Eminem sucks in my opinion, oh bob, twiztid was being sarcastic lol he doesnt mean that Fem has talent. Anywho...you can say im an insane, lunatic, whatever. Im down with the clown for life. MUTHA FACKOS. I dont care what you think of me, ima laugh, who cares. Theres always gunna be biggots, juggahos, juffalos, fuck tards, haters, whatever. Let them be the biggots they are. fuck mainstream, they dont know how shit feels, they dont know what ICP and the other Psych have accomplished during their underground lives.

I'll even explain it for them. ICP all started back in the early early 80's, aight? Shaggs and J dropped outta HS and made their own little gang/band thing, the Inner City Posse. After J's 4th visit to county jail, he started havin these visions about this clown, the Carnival of Carnage clown. Anyways, he handed J these 6 jokers cards, he and Shaggs had a mission to spread the message of the 6 Jokers cards.

The 6 jokers cards are, The Carnival of Carnage, the Ring Master, Riddle Box, Great Milenko, Amazing Jeckal Brothers, and the Wraith. Each one has a message that needed to be spread. The message sums to peace, love, and equality; all of that is behind their violent lyrics. They wanted to save as many people before the 6th and final card rises, and time consumes us all.

Anyways...People who diss on ICP dont know shit about them, or what they've done, aight here i'll give you guys a couple more facts about them, if you dont wanna know, i dont give a fuck, stop reading this post. Aight here it is..They made 2 albums while they were in the Inner City Posse. They changed their name to the Insane Clown Posse and released their first jokers card, the Carnival of Carnage, in '92. They have 2 plat. albums, and 5 gold albums.

They also were in WWF, WCW, and ECW i believe, but they dropped outta there, bought their own wrestling ring, and now have the 3rd largest wrestling federation in the world. They also created their own record label, Psychopathic records. They were chillin one day and came up with the idea of a 3-4 day concert, basically you get to camp out with all of the bands that are performing, called the Gathering of the Juggalos. Theres over 30 events that take place during the gathering. www.juggalogathering.com check it out.

They also have 2 full length movies out. Big Money Hustlas, and their western comedy, Big Money Rustlas. I've double checked all of the albums they have out, theres over 110 albums. Including all of the sound tracks they've done, the albums with Dark Lotus, and the Psychopathic Rydas.
One more thing im gunna add, the bells about to ring for 4th period... They have their own WEB STORE where you can buy all their merch. They show more love then any other band in my opinion, and have the most merch out there. You can check that shit out too. www.hatchetgear.com Alright..you should thing sometime, dont diss unless you have all of the facts, otherwise its just pointless, a waste of time, and makes you look like a fuckin retard, grow up. Until then, im out. MMMFWCL to all my fellow Lo's and Lette's out there, i love you all. Check me out on Juggalo Radio sometime. www.juggaloradio.com PEACE MUTHA FACKOS.

#78 — November 18, 2004 @ 14:45PM — Scoota Rey

What is a mutha facko?

#79 — November 27, 2004 @ 03:56AM — Dizzy

I can't fucking believe this pathetic thing is still going, but I just had to check. Homies, pleasem if you see this, just clost hte fucking browser window, roll a blunt, and chill. It aint worth getin mad about. Fuck these fuckin faggy-ass fucktarded fuckers.

And no, i'm not homophobic.

In the words of ODB: YOU BITCHAAAASSS!!!!!!

Rest In Peace my nigga

#80 — November 28, 2004 @ 06:00AM — crooked cal

anyone why hates on insane clown posse cant possibly have any clue about the fundamentals of rhyming, or else they would notice the clever, humorous, abstract nature of their structure and their content. Their best albums are like classic horror movies doused with stupid humor used in genious ways.

#81 — November 28, 2004 @ 12:12PM — Mark Saleski [URL]

yea, like that song about the haunted tilt-o-whirl.

oooooh, scary!

oooooh, genious!!

#82 — November 28, 2004 @ 19:07PM — lissa [URL]

Umm, true. WHAT UP DIZZY? Oh, a mutha facko is a motherfucker sir. I dont smoke, but i'll go grab a faygo and chill. ;) FUCK ALL OF YOU MAINSTREAM BONE HEADS. Rofl. Aight, peace y'all.

#83 — November 28, 2004 @ 19:08PM — Lissa

Oh yeah, 1 more thing, RIP ODB!!!! See ya in Shangri-la bro!

Much love, Lissa

#84 — November 29, 2004 @ 00:57AM — Dee J.

ODB= Over Dosed B-boy, Old Dead Buffoon,
Outrageous Dung Beetle, Over Done Bacon,
Odious Drooling Bedwetter, Otters Don't
Bark,etc,etc,etc. ???

#85 — November 30, 2004 @ 01:22AM — Dizzy

Actually, I should be saying Rest In Peace Russel Jones. You will be missed.

And for anyone to find humor in the loss of life, especially a life that touched people through a medium, gives me pause to check the mental stability of said person.

#86 — December 3, 2004 @ 03:34AM — Cody [URL]

Dude, ICP rocks
I have all their albums and i listen to them every day, there songs are awsome and show you to blow off all the bull shit people throw at you.

#87 — January 6, 2005 @ 01:57AM — god

It's all funny

#88 — February 3, 2005 @ 18:45PM — TWiZTiDLiLONE

Brain dead people don't understand sarcasm. So let it be.

But hey, I just had to post again to keep this mutha facko goin' an' piss off all the haters.

Anyone with half a brain and a partially open mind can listen to ICP and see the cause in their lyrics. An' if ya can't, well then that's just sad.

So, from one juggalette to all the lo's and lette's out there....we be down 4 life and fuck what a hater says.

#89 — April 7, 2005 @ 20:02PM — ihaterednecks

Hey yazza your the biggot here. icp is the best group ever. dumb mutha fack-o. go back to special ed.

#90 — April 21, 2005 @ 18:04PM — kevin

we juggalos all you other ho"s f off you eat sh!t and die mofo die!!!!!! there an arm in my trunk never would of new it but it stunk so much!!!!! big baby sweets got my money mother fucko..... icp 4 ever

#91 — June 1, 2005 @ 05:13AM — InGeNiOuS84

well although im not a juggalo or buy into that crazy painting of my face, i really do enjoy listening to ICP for all thier unique qualities they contribute in the music they create. I mostly enjoy listening to them and believe that if u look further into the lyrics u can see there's more meaning to it than just fucking fat chicks and spraying faygo, they actually have a message behind most of the songs they make and they also have a very supportive group of people for their followers, so they don't feel so alone, now tell me, how many other groups do u see that such strong group of fans that they are more like a family than your averge groupie? Not many, i didn't think so, and if u think people who support ICP for their ludicrous rhymes and foul language are morons, then what about those who support Bush for his stupidity and keeping the war going, are they not morons too for supporting something that makes no sense and is an insult as to how far we've come as humans that we still have to resort to violence just to decrease gas prices?

#92 — June 15, 2005 @ 01:26AM — Crazy Tha Crackhead Juggalo [URL]

You are missing the point to icp. if you dont like them then no need to talk shit about one of their greatest albums and their fans. ICP doesnt try to make you listen to them they are just there. If you want them you can come get some cds. If you feel the need to say some bullshit about them then say your shit and go on. ICP stand for everyone being equal and a loss of racism. as for the juggalos and juggalettes being morons, well youre just stupid arent you? that IS bullshit. MFL juggalos peace.

#93 — June 18, 2005 @ 23:46PM — Matt Paprocki [URL]

That seems to sum it all up nicely, doesn't it?

#94 — June 19, 2005 @ 00:59AM — cc

Time to stop throwing rocks at the retards.
They seem to be getting aggitated and i hear they have the strength of apes.
I don't want any of these losers spitting on my chicken soft taco before i get to the drive-thru window either.
Peace out Juggalos

p.s. What's this? No. I ordered a #3 combo meal. Let me speak to your manager.

#95 — July 18, 2005 @ 03:19AM — morgan

ICP is for those who understand it.. Don't hate something you know nothing about a$$hole. Eminem sucks major donkey balls and so do you for even starting a forum post saying that ICP is anything but awesome.. You rate up there with people who enjoy eating human feces and drinking semen from various animals. So I say this to anyone who thinks ICP isn't great: "Suck my nuts, b*tch, f*ck you!"
"F*ck outta here if you ain't down with the clown!"

#96 — July 18, 2005 @ 03:27AM — morgan

Oh, Marty Dodge! I almost forgot...Killing yourself would make this world a happier and better place to live in. Have a nice day c*cksucker.

#97 — July 18, 2005 @ 05:40AM — Andrew Ian Dodge [URL]

Staying alive pisses cretins like yourself off...that is well worth it. I criticise ICP so you think I should be dead? How truly sad...

#98 — July 21, 2005 @ 14:14PM — cody

wow bitch u can say shit over the internet but i bet u dont say shit to the juggalos if u saw some walkin. and i bet u dont even kno wat we sre about so fuck u mutha faukel

#99 — July 21, 2005 @ 14:23PM — cody

wow bitch u can say shit over the internet but i bet u dont say shit to the juggalos if u saw some walkin. and i bet u dont even kno wat we sre about so fuck u mutha faukel

#100 — July 21, 2005 @ 14:31PM — Mark Saleski [URL]

further proof that facepaint causes brain damage

#101 — July 31, 2005 @ 14:11PM — JUGGAFUCKYOU

Actually, I should be saying Rest In Peace Russel Jones. You will be missed.

And for anyone to find humor in the loss of life, especially a life that touched people through a medium, gives me pause to check the mental stability of said person.





HAHA i find huge contradiction in this quote. Doesnt ICP "rap" about beating the shit out of people/killing them and laughing about it. Doesnt lissa say if you talk shit to us we'll kill you 1000 to 1? hmmmmmm..........

#102 — August 7, 2005 @ 04:54AM — Marlin

I just stumbled upon this tonight, and I have to say that this is one of the funniest message boards I've seen in quite some time. I listen to ICP, however I'm not a juggalo (I used to be a juggalo, though...not one of the narrow-minded, moronic juggalos (or 95% of ICP's fan base)). And before any of you juggalos bash me, consider this: I've been to ICP concerts before and I've personally seen the fans getting irate because the venue didn't open the doors quickly enough. "Juggalos" were unscrewing bulbs from underneath the venue's awning and smashing them in the street; "juggalos" were throwing random items (Faygo bottles, etc) at peoples' cars. What kind of "family" does this? If you're supposed to be family, then respect other people (especially since they have NOTHING to do with you or your life)!

Now, for those who are bashing ICP: their music does contain a message, but it's very hard to hear it unless you actually sit down and listen to some of their albums. Yes, their music is littered with violence and other vulgar content, but the music does contain a message (a lot of it is, however, made for no other reason than to entertain). It's very hard to comprehend, and most of ICP's fans make it to where it's hard to believe that ICP's music even puts out a message (just look at most of the fans' behavior, as listed in my first paragraph).

For the ICP fans: you're not making the situation any better when you're telling the ICP bashers that their music sucks, or if you're telling the writer of the article that you hope he dies. If you want to defend yourselves, stop typing shit like "ima kill u muthafacko whut whut icp in dis bitch fo lyfe" and put some real defense into why you're responding to the people that dislike ICP. All you're doing is giving them more to laugh about.

**And before either ICP fans or ICP haters on here criticize me, keep this in mind: I used to be a juggalo, but I was never the typical juggalo that was totally disrespectful to everyone or the typical juggalo that was so narrow-minded that they hated someone based on what music they listen to. I'm an example of a rare breed of intelligent juggalos, or in my case, former juggalo. I'm in college, I pay for my stuff, and I'm getting a Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science with a minor in Math. So, I'd say I turned out alright, and ICP's music didn't have any negative effects on me.

***I wasn't bashing all ICP fans. I saw a few intelligent ones in here :)***

#103 — August 17, 2005 @ 20:30PM — juggagod

Im a juggalo and I drink diarrea our of a paper cup strained thru a pair of dirty pantyhose!

#104 — August 20, 2005 @ 01:11AM — Naughty Joker

I'll tell you something though, you got alotta balls puttin shit like this up. Now, many los and lettes come to me when they need help or need some advice. [edited]

#105 — September 2, 2005 @ 19:00PM — shelby jo,jak jekel,

wad up.
im an 11 year old juggalette and im
not liking what im reading.ya see we
juggalos and juggalas think this band is tha shit so all you bitchass bigotts
can go fuck yerselves while listening
to feminen.icp is tha best band ever so
FOOKOOF ya damn bigott.

#106 — September 4, 2005 @ 02:07AM — shelby jo,jak jekel

1 more thing.id like to say thank you to lissa and dizzy for understanding real juggalos and juggalettes.that is keepin' it real.

down 4 life homie.

peace.

#107 — October 2, 2005 @ 13:09PM — dazz

alot of the shit that has been flying round hers is that juggalos dont listen to good music. i myself dont only listen to stuff from psychopathic records and the majority of the music i listen to is metal, thrash etc. i am pretty aure that all juggalos on this page listen to other music as well. ther are always going to be people who dont like a band for whatever reason but the mature people wont go and flame that band and all ther efans on a public message board. i personaaly have a strong dislike for Nickleback. i tell poeple i dont like them but i would never pile abuse on a massive nickleback fan just because of my opinion.i am very used to getting abuse concernig the music i listen to. being english everytime i walk down the street in a heavy metal t shirt some brainless dickhead we say 'look at the fucking grunger'. i dont react to this as i am the bigger man. i think all the people flameing icp should grow up and i also think the juggalos that give abuse back should as well. i know that i will get some reply saying that im not being the bigger man now as i am responding but as you can see i have tried to be impartial. no matter what music you listen to or where you are in the world someone will hate your favourite band deal with it. also dont pile hatred upon those who like a band you hate as it would probably piss you off if it happened to you.

#108 — October 9, 2005 @ 23:25PM — Alex

I'm 15, caucasian, middle classed, and I listen to ICP. I don't dress like a wigger, don't have urges to go out and rape dead bodies, rob the nearest 7/11, or prank call suicide hotlines. The posts by others who call themselves 'Juggalos' (save a few) are completely moronic in nature and prove the point made by others who disapprove of ICP that we are complete idiots. Talk to 75% of any other major musical groups fan base and you'll find the same thing.
This argument is pointless.

#109 — October 10, 2005 @ 01:25AM — Luke

In response to comment number 1.

I find it very easy to believe that there are extremely popular bands which are extremely crap, it's merely the result of a simple mathmatic equation, something involving the lowest common denominator, but at the end of the day, no ones opinion is right or wrong, having said that, it's my opinion that your opinion is wrong, but sadly, I'm not in a group of millions of people that think exactly the same way I do, so I don't have pure mindless numbers to back up my opinons.

#110 — October 18, 2005 @ 10:52AM — Josh

Im a juggalo and anyone talks shit about us you have to deal with us, all of us

#111 — October 18, 2005 @ 11:05AM — this is juggalo 666

im 14 years old and a full blooded juggalo, all you juggalo haters can talk shit about us over the computer but if you said that on the streets i dought you would see the next day. ooo and hey shelby jo, and jak jekel i like what you said juggalos for life

peace motherfuckers

#112 — October 18, 2005 @ 11:07AM — alienboy [URL]

I hate clowns, insane or not, but I have to say the Insane Clown Posse are great entertainment; mind you, some of their fans seem to take it all way too seriously.

#113 — October 18, 2005 @ 12:26PM — alienboy [URL]

Apparently I'm going to be murdered by Josh, juggalo 666 and kyle. Glad it's only one person!

Actually, if I was a dick loving fagot(sic), what would be wrong with that?

#114 — November 2, 2005 @ 17:50PM — shelby jo [URL]

hey,juggalo 666 much clown love.
stay clown down,homie.oh yeah,i forgot
do this awhile back,i want to thank all
the los and lettes on this site.you're
all cool.


down 4 life!!

#115 — November 5, 2005 @ 22:13PM — tori [URL]

i have something to say about comment#3 what the fuck are you talking about? first things first,i cannot believe you can sit on your asses and talk shit about icp when you probably hadn't even heard at least 3 of their cd's.if you ever listened to the wraith you muthafackus would know the message is peace,love,and equealty.but you juggahaters are sitting there like morons saying there is no message and icp just a moronic band.and shangri la for starters is not a trailer park,it's a beautiful hotel you stupid ass.by the way shelby jo goes to my school and is my best friend so it's pretty awesome.oh and like dizzy says ALWAYS REMEMBER TO FUCK OFF!!!

#116 — November 5, 2005 @ 22:21PM — shelby jo [URL]

WHAT UP TORI,yall this is my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


much clown love homies!!!!

peace!!

#117 — November 6, 2005 @ 20:10PM — shelby jo [URL]

all juggahaters can fuck outta here if they ain't
down wit da clown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BITCH I
REPRESENT DELRAY MUTHA FACKU!!!!!!!!ahh good shit.

#118 — November 8, 2005 @ 21:16PM — Juggalo4life [URL]

Alright i first of would like to thank Dizzy for making some great points, juggalos, arent bad people, were just diffrent from everyones standards,or have had hard lifes growing up, The Family is always there for one another and thats what makes the following so good, i could walk outside past all you Bigots (a ignorant stupid fuck) and yell Much clown love,and someone would yell it back.Now as far as being satanist or whatever you country bumpkins want to label it listen to track 17 on Shangri-la,and you'll see that both joe's are very much christian, as far as the Face paint, they had a vision of a dark carnival(end of time) that would come, they thought the face paint would help bring the point across with more emphisist on the point. And one last thing EVERY single album from dogbeats to the calm we dedicated to "the butterfly" which Violent j and his brother jumpsteady innocently killed when they were kids, and then came to say "we made a pack that day,we'd both do our best to get to heaven so would tell the butterfly face to face we were truely sorry" ....that is what the ICP is about a place for people who are diffrent to come and fell "normal" in your standards, and yes, to dizzy, lissa and all the other REAL Juggalos with MCL i will see you all in Shangri-la, email me or something guys love to here from you'll. To everyone Much clown love

#119 — November 14, 2005 @ 16:40PM — shelby jo

you've made one of the best points on this whole site,juggalo4life,i truly respect that,brother!see you in shangri la.


peace homie!MCL.

#120 — November 21, 2005 @ 16:01PM — Joey Johnson

first of all ICP has sold more albums than any of you could ever dream of selling. O get this they have no advertisements and their music isnt played on the radio. proof right there. how many of us could do that huh? you guys can go ahead and diss us Juggalos cause all you bitches that aint down wit the Klownz can go to hell. We dont need you guys that diss on em. All we need is our ninjas and were good. So all u queers can listen to that little bitch ass Eminem cause honestly i can give a rats ass. So suck our nutz bitch fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#121 — November 21, 2005 @ 16:51PM — crapheap

just wanted to say this has been the most entertaining board i have read in eons

#122 — November 29, 2005 @ 15:55PM — shelby jo

first of all crapheap,unless you have better ways to entertain yourself,you need to go fuck a crapheap.secondly every lo,lette on this website knows what real love is thankyou all los and lettes also thankyou joey johnson,you've made a great point too!!!!!!!

peace homie!!!!!

#123 — December 9, 2005 @ 19:23PM — shelby jo

hey dazz its ok to be a grunger.shit i'm a grunger as much as i am juggalette.its all good

peace homie!!!!!!!!

#124 — December 18, 2005 @ 08:10AM — brad

You baggy pants wiggers are the most stupid aliens to have landed on plaent earth,If you adore blacks so much then you all should see your dr to give you black injections i am shure the doc can do that as they gave pedo michel jackson injections to make him white, Then you can go and live in the ghetto with those ape baboons that you all seem to adore.

#125 — January 1, 2006 @ 00:49AM — One of us.

First, I would like to thank all of you ICP haters out there. Cause its people like you who make this music mean so much to those that understand it. Have you ever thought that maybe your IQ should be in question? You are promoting what the juggalo nation is all about, and helping incite more lo's and lette's for the cause.

Its straight laced bastards like you who make this, for lack of better words "music" so important..

Thanks

#126 — February 4, 2006 @ 14:02PM — ohiojuggalo

yall hate icp and really mean it come see me in cleveland ohio in fact email me meet me ill show ya how you get you ass stomped by a juggalo

when i say stomp yall say woot woot
STOMP
WOOT WOOT
STOMP
WOOT WOOT

#127 — March 31, 2006 @ 11:37AM — twiztid serial killin juggalo

why dont all you haters fuck off okay you want to listen to some fucking flaming faget named feminem talk about his whinig girlfriend and faget song with dr.dre quit wasting your fucking time wit this comment board if you hate them so much how bout you keep your comment to your selves and juggalos will never die

#128 — April 18, 2006 @ 09:37AM — acid juggalo

fuck alll of u fucking bitches that have no resepct 4 any of us we are all clown familys so fuck off.

#129 — April 26, 2006 @ 23:47PM — ChubbyLette [URL]

ima Juggalette, and i just wanna drop in a line thankin all my Juggalo family on here defending eachother. Its true love, mad love, insane love, and im lovin every bit of it. Much love, check out the gathering cite friday, shits gonna be up there for more info then. WOOP WOOP!
MMFCL

add me if you want

#130 — May 4, 2006 @ 14:11PM — paranoid

u hatas are wack icp is da shitand if you don't like it go fuk em amd fuk off

#131 — May 4, 2006 @ 14:12PM — paranoid

em= eminem
slim anis
feminem

#132 — May 19, 2006 @ 11:06AM — Brandon

As all of you people neglected to see. Personal attacks are not allowed and you're attacking a person's opinion of a band. I'm not an illiterate moron and I am severely disappointed that such ignorance and stereotyping goes on simply because you find no reason to like something.

I enjoy the antics of ICP. I enjoy their confidence and trust in themselves and the ability to say f--- off to anyone who judges them. Which is everyone but their very, very dedicated fans. You don't get fans for anything else like you do ICP. They're a joke, but a lot of truth is said in jest.

#133 — June 2, 2006 @ 15:46PM — superman [URL]

eminem sucks the biggest balls there are

#134 — July 14, 2006 @ 16:54PM — Ken Layne [URL]

Oh dear jesus, this is the greatest comment thread in the history of the Internet.

So most of them are children? I saw one who claimed to be 11 years old. Wow. This country is going to be great in a few years ....

#135 — August 27, 2006 @ 15:01PM — ian

hey man. look im a juggalo and im just gonna say a few things. everyone who hates icp and juggalos should realize one thing. icp isnt the only shit that we listen to. i bet if you were to listen to some abk you might like it. it flows very well. i still listen to other music like metallica, metal, and even punk rock, i have a very wide variety of music taste. ill admit man i smoke weed and alot of juggalos do it makes me mellow man i dont know about any of you but it makes me want to avoid fights and shit. aight dude im out peace

#136 — September 4, 2006 @ 19:39PM — C.C.

This is a really petty argument but I'm a patriotic little bitch and the grammatically poor comment by Yazza "who the hell spells criticize with a s" (Who the hell spells 'criticize' with an 's'?) kinda pissed me off more than anything said about the ICP, or any other artist mentioned on this thread.

The answer to his question is quite simple: everyone out of America you ignorant fuck.

#137 — September 7, 2006 @ 15:17PM — BOZO THE CRAZY CLOWN

You dumb bitch ass mother fuckers. ICP is not about music. Its about getting their message out to people. Those people that get the message are the Juggalos. If you don't like the message then fine. But if you are so dumb you can't even see the message you should question who you call morons.

GET DOWN WITH THE CLOWN MOTHER FUCKERS

#138 — September 8, 2006 @ 12:35PM — Tom Johnson [URL]

This is hilarious. Three and a half years and the Juggalos still don't get that they're just perpetuating the exact behavior by which we're all disgusted and which gets them such a terrible reputation. Reading comprehension is not one of their stronger traits, I take it?

#139 — September 9, 2006 @ 16:08PM — BOZO THE CRAZY CLOWN

So Tom you dumb ass piece of shit. you dont like the message ICP spreads even though you are to stupid to get it. You are a moron. What behavior is it that you dont like. The family side, or maybe the bit about not doing evil and taking responsibilty for our actions. Where is this terrible thing that ICP says to do. Go listen to the low brow shit on the pop chart. Then you wont have to think too much and show yourself up.

#140 — September 12, 2006 @ 12:35PM — Ajax Widowmaker

Yo, This is Widowmaker of the RTC - My goth-rap band are the latest Juggalo's to try and get in contact with Psychopathic Records, and let me tell you somethin' - you wanna diss our family, we stab yo' fuken' ass. Yo' ears are so filled up with spunk, that you can't hear the talent inside their music. Whoever made this site is a cok-sucking piece of fuken' shit and can get motornurome and fuken' die. You just a mainstream bitch-ass, isn't that right?

Oh yeah ... and fuk your comment policy, you shit eating fuk!

17 Dead bodies hangin' from a telephone wire -
All 17 on Fire! One of them is the owner of this fuken' faggot ass site.

An RJ - You can fuk off, btch-boy! In fact, all you btch-boyz who diss ICP and the juggalo's on this site can get brain cancer and die painfully! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BITCH!

PSYCHOPATHIC RECORDS, READ ME!!!!!
We need yo' to sign us up dogs. We'll be in contact. Peace, and much clown luv.

#141 — September 12, 2006 @ 13:05PM — Christopher Rose [URL]

Ooh, goth-rap - how fresh...

#142 — September 12, 2006 @ 13:14PM — omfgdie.

ICP iss not my taste, the choices the followers make is creepy, and eww.



just not for me.

#143 — September 12, 2006 @ 13:37PM — goth-rap? O_o;

goth-rap? Haha. hahaha. all these 'los and 'lettes hate me, andd youknow what, very few of them are nice to me.



...we all have our taste. get over it kay?

#144 — September 13, 2006 @ 16:31PM — BOZO THE CRAZY CLOWN

goth rap. GOTH RAP. this has nothing to do with goths. stop trying to lable people. people are not defined by the music they listen to

#145 — September 15, 2006 @ 18:26PM — Vjuggalo

You cannot expect an outsider obsessed with mainstream culture to understand what being a Juggalo is all about.

To the 'los and 'lettes MMFCL.

#146 — October 20, 2006 @ 17:28PM — The Juggla

Everybody jumps to the juggalo sound, get the fuck outta here if you aint down with the clown.
i'm a juggalo bitches you just dont understand ICP go learn about their shit and you'll like them 2.

#147 — October 20, 2006 @ 17:34PM — The Juggla

Ok ICP is NOT gay..all u heard was Insane Clown Posse, killing and cussing. thats all you heard. but if you took the fucking time to look into ICP and what they are all about you'd understand that they are the shit and you'd like them too. It's like that fuckin saying don't judge a book by its cover. Yeah ICP talks about death and stuff, but get to know them and stop talking out of your ass before you learn anything about them.
case is fucking closed.

#148 — October 22, 2006 @ 00:52AM — icp

ches we suck at life

#149 — October 26, 2006 @ 21:06PM — shenee tso(juggalette 4 life)

fuck all you dumb asses who think icp sucks. all u guyz are cowards. u wouldn't walk up to icp and say they suck cuz you are to scared. fuck all you slim anis fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!
much clownz luv,
shenee tso(juggalette 4 life)

#150 — November 11, 2006 @ 15:09PM — chelz

you got sumthin to say bout icp...

take it up with me
the juggalos will beat you
into a fuckin pulp
ill find your fuckin ass
and then grind you to a stump
"every one jumps to the juggalo sound
FUCK OUTA HERE IF YOU AINT DOWN WIT DA CLOWN "

#151 — March 27, 2007 @ 12:47PM — Native Ninjalette[Stoner big time]

I'm a ninjalette 4life so fuck all you haters out there your nothing but punks you just hate cause you don't fit in anywhere else

#152 — April 9, 2007 @ 20:17PM — matt

im also a juggalo i dont have braids or dreads
ima fan of the music also but u are jus a bunch of bigot fucks who hate on people who u say have no meaning in there lyrics but like the guy who sayed this be fore listen to the lyrics of lets go all the way its about peace and equalty u guys probaly havent even lisstend to the music before u judged it fuck u

muc much mother fuckin clown love

#153 — April 9, 2007 @ 20:24PM — matt

also rudy ray and the rest of the jcw wrestlers isnt a dumb ass and the reason they have there on werstiling is there just giving us the real shit not some poser shit were they go a cm from ur face and stomp they hit eachother .if u just fuckin give them credit listen to an album instead of judging bich boy im done hear peace u slim anus fans

#154 — August 29, 2007 @ 09:09AM — Amanda (juggalette)

now let me tell ya something
about us here juggalos
before you .. to hate us
for some reason you don't even know
we are a true family
we got each other's back
even if we dont know them
and thats a fact
you see, we all stand for the same thing
mad juggalo pride
and we have all caught
the same carnival high
we dont like to be stereotyped
like being a lo means all you do is smoke weed
just keep the respect goin
thats all we need
we mean it when we say
"i trust my life with these los and lettes"
even with the ones we barely know
or never met
we keep the scrub life alive
so do our rising clowns
we've got mad love
for anyone who's down
we're a bunch of outsiders
brought together where we belong
and if you think we're all the same
this is where you really are wrong
wiggers, twiztid serial killers, and ninjas
so many hate, yet we stand tall
laidback stoners and college-bound kids
our family has them all
its not the amount of merchandise,
the face paint, or sayin fuck feminem
icp was voted the worst band
and we still love them
its just a pride that connects us
not something to do to look cool
its love, respect, and unity
no guidlines or rules
now that you've read this
what do you haters have to say?
naw, fuck that
because, with much clown love, we'll always be this way

#155 — October 6, 2007 @ 18:56PM — Travis Envy

To generalize fans of a group is very ignorant. I've been "Down with the clown", as some would say, since I was 13-years-old and I am now 20. I really don't consider myself a moron because I am a Juggalo. I agree though, that many Juggalos are morons and that they lack some intelligence, and have a below average IQ. But to generalize all Juggalos as being like that is, as I said before, ignorant. I have just recently finished college and am currently working in a machine shop and using programming that, many people viewing this site and the writer of the column themself, probably couldn't comprehend.
Please don't lump Juggalos like me in with Juggalos like the first postee of this columns comments. Juggalos like that are the ones that make us look stupid. Incoherent, misspelled, mindless dribble is all I ever read from most Juggalos.
Though I can't explain my love of ICP's music, I do know that I like it, and I like it a lot. Since I was 13, I've listened to at least a little bit of ICP everyday... as well as Twiztid, Blaze, ABK, Dark Lotus, Esham, and yes, even Zug Island. ICP are not the best rappers out there, hell Twiztid are WAY better rappers than the wicked clowns, but they appeal to the Juggalos.
In conclusion, please don't lump the Juggalos together, some of us ARE morons, while others are College educated, blue collar workers who, despite what you may believe, are smarter than you may think. Everybody has a different taste in music and ICP have managed to find their niche in the music industry and have unarguably become very successful doing what they do. They definitely don't appeal to the masses, however, for some reason, I doubt that bothers them.

-Travis Envy

#156 — October 18, 2007 @ 11:50AM — Kyle Rowe juggalo for life

screw you icp is the best dont talk crap about them juggalos for life

#157 — October 23, 2007 @ 15:14PM — Azimoth Hatchet [URL]

Yall dissin ICP yall dont even know what their about,only a juggalo knows what their about,yall are nothing but a bunch of fagget ass haters that will one day die from a 10 pound axe to thy forehead

#158 — November 28, 2007 @ 15:09PM — Munchie

In the words of I.C.P.,"If you don't like it you can FUCK OFF!"

#159 — December 21, 2007 @ 11:19AM — bitch [URL]

Us juggalos an lettes might be suckers.An we have so many problems because yall wanna dis us.just because we ecept the ways of life an get the fucking consept of the clown posse you fukers wanna pull your shit leave us the fuck alone let us be what we are an what we are is juggalos we are the same as you our music might be shit to you but to us it makes sence an you might wanna watch what you say some of us dont play there has been killings by some of our juggalos so shut the fuck up an mind your own you website sucks cox.iam a christian an still listen to them even some of the juggalos dont quite understand them there not all about violence if you have a prob < an if your just there to dis me then fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk youuuuuuuuuuuuu.

#160 — December 21, 2007 @ 11:32AM — wickalette [URL]

being a juggalette is my life an if you dont like it fuck the hell off. it seams to be clear that you bitches ant getting near our pride we stand tall with our hatchets by our side for some of us the carnival saved our lifes an what do you have to show to outcasts nothing but more hate for were we belong an were we belong is at the carnival we might be clowns but yall sound like a mutha fuchen curcus.fuck offffffffff

#161 — December 21, 2007 @ 12:02PM — Christopher Rose [URL]

bitch & wickalette: although I really enjoy ICP music, only gullible muppets or hormone ravaged juveniles could possibly take their "philosophy" seriously. I don't know which category either of you fall into but please, listen to yourselves, you sound like one of those mad people shouting at passers by about the end of the world is nigh!

#162 — March 24, 2008 @ 20:06PM — welder21

i don't know about the rest of you but i like icp for the simple fact that they don't conform to what everyone else wants they do as they please and don't give a fuck that you or your buddies don't like them. the only thing that matters to them is that the fam. stays together no matter what you people say about us we love what we love for our own resonse. we don't talk shit about your shit you listen to. it may be elton john or korn but you like it and thats all that matters to you so back off the juggalos we are peacful until you fuck with our fam. and we don't take kindly to bitches that don't know shit about us and start talkin shit!

#163 — April 24, 2008 @ 13:09PM — juggalo

most people are just jealous that the so called crap music that icp makes sells more cds then eminem or who ever they listen to does. there just jealous that they cant make a band and match there success

#164 — April 24, 2008 @ 13:57PM — Jordan Richardson [URL]

Yep, I know I don't like ICP because they outsell U2.

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