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An Open Letter to Newly Elected Democrats

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Congratulations on your 2006 electoral victory, and on seizing the House of Representatives, and perhaps the Senate, from your Republican opponents. We The People have given you the opportunity to govern, and this election should prove to you that We The People expect and demand that you govern with integrity.

We The People have decided that we are tired of your opponents for a number of reasons, and have therefore given you the opportunity to serve as temporary caretakers of this great nation. Some of The People who elected you are tired of Republican corruption and influence peddling. Some have had enough of the lies about Iraq and are horrified by the number of lives of brave Americans lost there. Some have had enough of your opponents’ pandering to the religious right. Some are repulsed by the disgrace known as Mark Foley. Some are fed up with this President and his administration. For whatever combination of reasons, We The People have collectively had enough of the Republicans, and have voted them out of power, at all levels of government, and from coast to coast, for the time being.

You have been given an opportunity to prove yourselves to The People. If you had ever had real jobs, you would understand that employers give new hires a grace period to prove that they can do the job effectively and efficiently. That is what We The People have decided to do with you – we have given you a trial period to show us that you can and will do what is best for The People of this country.

Do not think of this election as a victory for liberal tax and spend policies – it’s not. Do not think that We The People have given you rein to suck up to lobbyists and enrich yourselves to our detriment – we haven’t. Do not think you have been given license to muzzle us or enact legislation to protect us from ourselves – you haven’t. Think of this only as an opportunity to serve The People of this great land and to prove to us that you deserve to be kept on beyond your brief trial period.

If you screw up this trial period we will fire you as we fired your predecessors. We have had enough of politicians stealing from the till. We are tired of special interests buying legislation that is contrary to the best interests of Americans. We are fed up with our elected public servants telling us blatant untruths.

Make the most of your opportunity, and realize that you are servants to The People and caretakers of these United States. If we are dissatisfied with your service during this review period, we will find others who are more reliable and more competent to serve in your place.

You have been given both an opportunity and fair warning. We are watching.

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  • John Q. Public

    An excellent open letter.
    And a good time for all to contrast how the Democrats are handling today, as opposed to the 2004 elections where a tiny percentage win was considered a mandate, and political capital to be spent.

    Let us all hope that the petty bickering is past, and that the real and vital work of the nation will be taken up by serious and thoughtful people on all sides of the aisle.

  • Nancy

    Yaaaay, Taloran: well written, almost poetic in the majestic march of successive “we/you/we haven’t…”s.

    As I said at 5.45 am this morning on the live talk blog, if they’re smart, they’ll profit by the mistakes of the GOP; they’ll take the opportunity NOW to fix any little…discrepancies…in their accounting & tax filings & be very, very careful to sin no more in that regard (Harry Reid, you listening?); they’ll immediately enact stringent measures considerably tightening ethics for ALL congressmembers; & if they can’t quite bring themselves to ban lobbyists outright, they’ll enact restrictions that effectively render the K St. swine useless & feckless because they can’t give either a congressmaggot OR his family OR his staff OR anybody else he’s remotely connected with jack shit without having to file 68 4-copy reports every time. No travel, no gifts of ANY kind, no food – nada, zero, zilch, nothing. That last alone would probably do more to clean up the Capitol Hill congressional acts of all of them more than just about anything else. Talk about clearing out the Stygian stables. Pelosi’s making promises about it; we’ll see if there’s anything behind these promises, or whether, like Frist, they’re nothing but hot air, to be dropped as soon as she/the Dems think the public has forgotten just because the MSM has stopped whining about it for the moment.

    Which reminds me: what a pity we the people couldnt’ do the same to the media, what? They’re the only group that came in lower than congress on the national trustworthiness rankings.

  • http://w6daily.winn.com/ Phillip Winn

    What I’ve heard from Speaker-elect Pelosi (okay, slightly premature, but she’s a shoe-in) sounds excellent. Of course, what I heard in 1994 sounded great, too, and they got cocky, and screwed up. Will the Democrats screw things up within twelve years?

    Yeah, I bet they will. But in the meantime, I like what I’m hearing, and I hope that they carry through.

  • Arch Conservative

    Yeah this was a pretty good letter.

    And Nancy is right we need to eliminate all the financial incentives if we want to clean up congress.

    However I don’t know what John Q is talking about when he says maybe this will end the petty bickering though. The way I see it is that if you have real convictions you stick up for them and fight those who have convictions that run counter to yours. There is always going to be passionate disagreement in society and I don’t understand those of you who use your little catchphrases to suggest that anyone who believes there’s nothing wrong with the failure of everyone to get is narrow minded.

  • John Q. Public

    Arch, all I am talking about is that each makes the effort to work together to solve problems, rather than causing them by always going for the jugular.

    I agree that there are some core differences that probably cannot be easily resolved, but for every one of them, there are literally hundreds of other pressing concerns that can be worked out.

    Too much time and effort has been wasted on petty bickering over the differences rather than trying to work together on the common problems that do have a solution.

    Just for a moment, ask yourself whether or not you think that is true, be honest with yourself, no one will know. Can we at least agree that there is the chance that working together when we can might be worth at least trying?

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    Some of The People who elected you are tired of Republican corruption and influence peddling. Some have had enough of the lies about Iraq and are horrified by the number of lives of brave Americans lost there. Some have had enough of your opponents’ pandering to the religious right. Some are repulsed by the disgrace known as Mark Foley.

    But mostly we’re just lemmings who are easily stampeded to our own destruction by lies and smear campaigns.

    Dave

  • http://trueblueblog.wordpess.com TrueBlueBlog

    Nice to see that you’re finally being honest with yourself, Dave.

    As for me, I’m one of those people who was sick of the influence peddling, lies, and American casualties in a pointless war we started without justification.

    Oh – the arrogance and hypocrisy of the Republicans the past six years didn’t do much to win friends and influence people, either.

  • Arch Conservative

    For those of you who aren’t in the know….

    Here is what the next president of the United States had to say about last night’s election…..

    Take a second to appreciate the tremendous insight, intellect and integrity that is MITT ROMNEY……

    November 08, 2006
    Romney’s Statement On The 2006 Election

    From Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA):

    Americans spoke last night and Republicans are listening. Americans have not become less conservative, but they believe some Republicans have. As a party, we need to remember who we are and the principles that have always led our party and our country to success.

    We must return to the common sense Reagan Republican ideals of fighting for hard working Americans, lowering taxes, shrinking government, curbing out-of-control spending, promoting the traditional values of faith, family and freedom, and providing a strong national security with all the necessary tools to protect the American people and win the War on Terror.

    This country wants resolute leadership to tackle tough issues and a positive vision for a better future here at home and around the world. They want leadership that trusts the American people, keeps America strong and moves our country forward.

    Americans across the country over the past year didn’t say they want higher taxes. They didn’t say they want more run-away wasteful spending or a Congress that continues irresponsible pork projects. Nobody ever said that this nation needs a bigger deficit.

    Americans didn’t say they wanted more activist judges who legislate from the bench and they don’t want less secure borders.

    No one said they want more rights for terrorists, nor did they ask that we stop terrorist surveillance … and nobody suggested that we should make life even harder for our brave men and women fighting terror around the world.

    We didn’t hear a mandate for a more liberal direction because the Democrats didn’t present one. Americans don’t share those liberal ideas.

    What voters told us is that America is stuck and Washington is broken. Voters told us to move forward by embracing our conservative convictions that Americans agree with and value – and we will.

    ROMNEY 2008!!!!!!!!!!

  • TheLastFreeMan

    Repent children of liberty for the end is nigh!

  • http://zardozz.com/zz/ Z.Z. Bachman

    Trial period is an understatement. Well written letter my friend. Both parties should have learned a few lessons. We shall see which of the two takes heed.

  • Arch Conservative

    Speaking as a Republican I learned that George Bush has probably done more damage to my party than anyone in the last 40 years including Nixon.

    If I didn’t know any better I’d say it was deliberate.

  • Clavos

    Arch sez:

    I learned that George Bush has probably done more damage to my party than anyone in the last 40 years including Nixon.

    If I didn’t know any better I’d say it was deliberate.

    Maybe he’s been a Democrat mole all along.

    Now, there’s a delicious conspiracy fantasy…

  • http://www.jewels-richardson.blogspot.com Jewels

    If I didn’t know any better I’d say it was deliberate. Well said Arch. One point, why did he (Bush) wait until after the election upset to part with Donald Rumsfeld when it was imminent and possibly would have aided his own party if he’d have made this move prior to the election week.

    Mike Savage had an interesting point on the radio the other night, basically bringing up the way we switch parties in power every 8 years or so; is it an intended manipulation – are we, the mass public just the sheep the political shepards herd with their dogs into the folds of pre-selected monetarily bought choice.

    Basically the question of late, by some – is the political democracy machine real or is the public being lead to believe it’s real?

  • Nancy

    I suspect in this case it was real; there were too many plutocratic power brokers who still very upset by the out-of-the-blue taking of both the house & senate for it to all have been a setup. It literally came out of nowhere, even for those of us who’ve been ranting & wishing & working for months. In the past 36 hours, I’ve been as shocked as any Republican to find that just about every Republican got the boot, & both houses of congress got handed to the Dems on a platter, as it were. It still seems a little surreal – kind of like when you accidently win The Lottery – the big one – y’know?

    I’m equally sure that the corporate masters behind the scenes were scrambling as hard as they could as soon as they saw the writing on the wall, to get to the key Dem party movers & shakers in order to gain influence over them, if they haven’t already. Remember that NO congressmaggot gets there without having sold themselves like a hooker to the highest bidder, even the latest voter heart-throb, Mr. Obama. I’m sure corporate interests already have their hooks into his tender flesh, just as they do with Pelosi, and just as they have with Hastert or Bush. It’s just a matter of how many & how deeply they’re sunk in.

  • Taloran

    Re: Arch’s comment 11 –

    My father has been a staunch and unwavering Republican supporter since arriving in this country in 1959 after 8 years as a fighter pilot in the Royal Air Force. Since he obtained his US citizenship in 1972 (there was a mandatory 13-year wait back then), he has consistently voted Republican. Like many small business owners, he detests the Democrats due to their tax and spend policies. Though he was disillusioned and upset with Bush during the 2004 election, he told me he voted for him again because “He got us into Iraq – I’m sure he must have a plan to get us out.”

    I had a conversation with him a few months ago in which he said “Bush couldn’t have done a worse job if he had tried.”

    This election, for the first time ever, he crossed the party line and voted for some Democrats because, in his words, “the Republicans have lost their way.”

    Though it is quite subjective, that is in my opinion the most damning condemnation of the Bush administration imaginable.

  • http://www.jewels-richardson.blogspot.com Jewels

    I don’t see the election results as being ‘out of the blue’. Instead the writing was clearly spelled out in the basic campaign strategy. One example of effective Democratic marketing occurred in Dallas, TX.

    The Dems had these very effective large blue signs, 3′ x 4’! all throughout neighborhoods and along major streets. Message on the signs, “If you’re fed up Vote Democrat”. It was simple and obviously very effective. We saw an incredible, history making upset in my area.

    NO comeback signing evidenced from the Republican Party, such as large red signs with slogans such as “Voting Dem not the Answer”. There was not the same level of intensity regarding the campaigning from the Republicans on the local level which then translated into the International level.

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    why did he (Bush) wait until after the election upset to part with Donald Rumsfeld when it was imminent and possibly would have aided his own party if he’d have made this move prior to the election week.

    If he’d dumped Rumsfeld right before the election it would have been an obvious effort to win votes and it would have looked incredibly weak and likely would have backfired. He either needed to do it at least several months ago to distance it from the election or wait until now. The reason to do it now is that it defuses the impending efforts of the Dems in the House to harass the administration over the War in Iraq, because Bush can now just point to Rumsfeld and say “it was his fault and we got rid of him”. Very smart politically.

    Dave

  • Clavos

    Dave writes:

    […] Bush can now just point to Rumsfeld and say “it was his fault and we got rid of him”. Very smart politically.

    Very. And possibly, even Rumsfeld’s own idea.

  • Taloran

    Bush can now just point to Rumsfeld and say “it was his fault and we got rid of him”.

    Kinda like Katrina being Mike Brown’s fault. I sure hope nobody falls for that – if Bush had gotten rid of him when he tendered his resignation following Abu Ghraib, maybe. Way too late now. Bush is good at throwing his subordinates under the bus he’s driving.

    I hope the next Prez digs out Truman’s old desk sign and lives by it. I for one would have more respect for a President who stood by “The Buck Stops Here.” Not that Truman was great, mind you – he just had a spine our 21st century politicians lack.

  • Arch Conservative

    I’m no democratic mole. Just a repubican who has finally had enough of Bush and his failure to represent real conservative republican values for the past six years. Do not mistake this for some type of acceptance of the Democrats though. I remain steadfastly opposed to what the far left in this nation stands for. That is why I could not vote Dem despite my frustration with Bush and the GOP. Also I did not see any point in punishing local politicians who I think have done a good job in my state for the sins of the father.

    I have complete faith and confidence however that Mitt Romney will arrive on a white horse in 2008 and restore the party to what it should be..to what true conservatives want it to be and know that it should be….to what Reagan made it in the early 80’s….

    There are only two things that would make Mitt Romney’s impending victory sweeter than it is already looking to be.

    1. If the Dem loser was Hillary/Obama.

    2. If Joe Lieberman would agree to be Romney’s VP. Imagine that.. a Mormon and a Jew heading up the country in the new revitalized big tent GOP. One can only hope.

  • Mark Pasternak

    Who is Taloran to speak for “We the People”? Did he vote Democrat or is he just blowing the way the wind goes? Did he ever write a similar letter to the Republicans as they distorted our values and damaged our nation’s integrity?

  • JR

    Arch Conservative: Speaking as a Republican I learned that George Bush has probably done more damage to my party than anyone in the last 40 years including Nixon.

    If I didn’t know any better I’d say it was deliberate.

    Well if you voted him into office twice and you’re just learning this now, perhaps you should reconsider the assumption that you know any better.

  • Arch Conservative

    JR the first time I voted for him was because he was pretty much an unknown entity.

    The second time was because the only other viable choice was John Kerry and I’d sooner cut my hand off than use it to vote for that vote pandering, gold digging, douchebag.

  • Arch Conservative

    Maybe I didn’t make myself clear as to how I feel about John Kerry let me just say that I’m from NH and unfortunately have to go into Boston once in awhile……….well if I was walking down the streetin Boston and I saw John Kerry on the other side of the street and he was on fire……..I wouldn’t even cross the street to piss on him to put the fire out…I think rather I’d say something like …..oh goody someone grab some marshmallows and we can make smores

  • zingzing

    arch: “I’d sooner cut my hand off than use it to vote for that vote pandering, gold digging, douchebag.”

    so you voted for… bush? what, in your mind, was the difference? “vote pandering,” “gold digging” and “douchebag” pretty well describe our fearless leader, now don’t they?

  • Martin Lav

    The problem with conservatives, Romney, Bush, AC, Rush included is that they can never accept defeat or admit mistakes. Romney thinks it’s because Republican’s weren’t conservative enough and that Bush is really a liberal in Wolf’s clothing.
    Well I say the reason the nutjob won in ’04 in the first place is because he was percieved to be moderate. This country wants the middle, they don’t want extremes from either side. The problem with Bush was simple.
    IT’S THE WAR STUPID.

  • Bliffle

    Mark Pasternak #21: yeah, the same thing occured to me. This guy Taloran is pretty arrogant to write such a condescending article to guys he probably didn’t even vote for.

  • Taloran

    Re Mark Pasternak’s comment 21:

    First, Mark, note that this is filed under OPINION. I thought it would be evident that I composed this using a great deal of literary license, and that it obviously was written by an individual author, not a consortium of every American voter. It would have been quite easy to write “I don’t think that the people of this country have given the Dems a complete stamp of approval. I think that we as a whole are fed up with the current leadership for a variety of reasons and decided to demonstrate that we desire a change.” Instead, I tried to be creative. It was not my intention for this to be offensive in any way.

    Second, because you brought it up, I have voted in every election since I turned 18 in 1980. I have on occasion voted for a Republican candidate, when he or she seemed to have better ideas or be less of a douchebag than the opponent. Notably, I voted for Colorado Governor Bill Owens twice, though he’s too socially restrictive for my tastes, because he had complete pillocks running against him both times. I generally vote third party when there is a candidate, Democrat when there is not, for the social rather than the fiscal platform. In this election I voted for my district’s Libertarian House candidate (Republican Tom Tancredo won by a wide margin) for the unaffiliated Colorado Governor candidate (Democrat Bill Ritter won by a wide margin – there was also a Republican, a Libertarian and a Constitutional on the ballot) and Democrat the rest of the way.

    It seemed to me that this election was guided by a nationwide “throw the bums out” mentality, and that there was a much more “anti-status quo” than “pro-Democrat” feel to the results. If you disagree, and you voted Democrat because you believe them to be the solution to this country’s problems and take issue with my obviously different opinion, so be it. I’ve said my piece, you are more than welcome to say yours. If you object to the way I phrased it, I’d enjoy hearing your counterpoint, but have no intention of attempting to combat poorly phrased one-liners.

    Finally, this is my first attempt at an open letter of this kind. It came to me while I was falling asleep on election night, after most results were in.

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    The problem with conservatives, Romney, Bush, AC, Rush included is that they can never accept defeat or admit mistakes.

    The problem with this statement is that none of the people you list are truly conservative, least of all Bush.

    Romney thinks it’s because Republican’s weren’t conservative enough and that Bush is really a liberal in Wolf’s clothing.

    And he’s dead right. Of course he’s also a reactionary moron.

    Well I say the reason the nutjob won in ’04 in the first place is because he was percieved to be moderate.

    Correctly so.

    This country wants the middle, they don’t want extremes from either side.

    So now they’ve turned against the moderate in the white house and have voted in really dangerous extremists instead. How does that make any sense?

    Dave

  • http://alienboysworld.blogspot.com Christopher Rose

    Dave, if you think the newly elected Dems are “really dangerous extremists”, you either need a holiday or have a bizarrely warped political compass…

  • zingzing

    bunker up, dave, like hitler in the movies!

  • Martin Lav

    “bizarrely warped political compass…”

    Mr. Rose,
    I thought that was pretty evident and I always assumed you allowed him to write on BC to exhibit this trait as a counter-point to Jet.

  • Nancy

    Dave #29, that statement about the Dems being dangerous extremists gave me the best laugh I’ve had all day. Are you by any chance a fundie mormon or one of those survivalists? You sure sound like one.

  • zingzing

    he calls dems dangerous extremists and bush a moderate… such moderate policies… torture, wiretapping american citizens… starting wars we have no business being involved in… trying to amend the consitution to restrict the rights of a minority… yeah! so moderate! everyone can agree with these things! he’s not divisive at all! the people like the man! that’s why 6 in 10 voted against bush!

  • Clavos

    Martin sez,

    Mr. Rose,
    I thought that was pretty evident and I always assumed you allowed him to write on BC

    With all due respect to Christopher, neither he or any other editor “allow” anyone to write on BC; that is Publisher Eric Olsen’s prerogative.

  • Martin Lav

    “With all due respect to Christopher, neither he or any other editor “allow” anyone to write on BC; that is Publisher Eric Olsen’s prerogative.”

    Oh that’s right Clavos, but Christopher allows you to follow behind Dave voicing your support of his wild ass ideas.

    I stand corrected :-)

  • Clavos

    Just as you voice your wild ass ideas, Martin.

    The difference is Dave backs up his “wild ass” ideas.

    You, on the other hand, merely spew vitriol and hate.

  • Martin Lav

    “You, on the other hand, merely spew vitriol and hate.”

    Okay Clavos……back that up. I’m not sure what vitriol is, but hate is another word. Maybe it’s these blood pressure pills I’m on….

    Back these up while your covering Dave’s wing:

    “Under new Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, Iraq finally has a fully formed and functional government with all of the factions participating.”

    “Was Bush Right About Iraq, Al Qaeda and WMDs?— At this point the build-up of evidence is hard to deny. Why is the refrain from the left and the media still ‘Bush lied’?”

    “Why the GOP Will Continue to Win the Independent Vote and Thus Win Elections— Independent voters hate government and politicians, but they hate the ones who threaten their families and their wallets the most.”

    “Is it Time to Vacation in Iraq?— “Visitors go up into some of the most beautiful mountains in the word and wonder how long before resort hotels are filled with hikers”

    “No One Died in Iraq Today— While we’ve been distracted by Katrina and Rita, events in Iraq have been moving towards key turning points.”

    Go for it…..

  • Arch Conservative

    Do you really think Romney is a moron Dave?

  • Clavos

    Martin, you need to take a deep breath and re-read my comment.

    I said DAVE backs up his ideas, and now you challenge ME to back up Dave’s writing? WTF??

    Wouldn’t it be presumptuous and entirely out of place for me to attempt to put words in Dave’s mouth?

    Nice try, old man.

    Those blood pressure pills must be affecting your reason, Martin.

  • zingzing

    he’s saying dave doesn’t back up his ideas.

  • zingzing

    not all of the time anyway.

  • Clavos

    Zing,

    he’s saying dave doesn’t back up his ideas.

    not all of the time anyway.

    I know, Zing.

    It’s not my place to put words in Dave’s mouth.

  • zingzing

    nonono. he’s asking you to back up your statement that dave always backs up his opinion. then he points out that he doesn’t, backing up his opinion. so he’s asking you to back up yours, even in the face of him backing up his… yeah? sigh…

  • zingzing

    you: “The difference is Dave backs up his “wild ass” ideas.

    You, on the other hand, merely spew vitriol and hate.”

    him: “Okay Clavos……back that up. I’m not sure what vitriol is, but hate is another word. Maybe it’s these blood pressure pills I’m on….”

    the other bit, about backing up dave’s opinion, stems from this: “Oh that’s right Clavos, but Christopher allows you to follow behind Dave voicing your support of his wild ass ideas.”

    he’s not really asking you to substantiate dave’s “wild ass” opinions. he’s pointing out that you can’t.

  • Clavos

    Back these up while your covering Dave’s wing:

  • zingzing

    he’s not really asking you to substantiate dave’s “wild ass” opinions. he’s pointing out that you can’t.

  • Martin Lav

    Thank you zingzing, for backing me up.
    Everyone needs a Clavos….

  • Clavos

    Thanks for your help, zing. I’m very grateful, and hopefully, martin is too.

  • zingzing

    yep. i dunno if clavos is an older commentor who used to go under a different name, but i think he’s been quickly hardened by this place… he was pretty moderate to begin with, but has become more strictly opinionated recently…

    i like have enemies on this site. sometimes it’s dave. but my favorite targets are definitely mr. richard “fucking racist” brodie, arch conservative, and the lovely justoneman. i used to search them out, but now that the commentors list doesn’t work my job is more difficult. fix the damn thing!

  • zingzing

    hrm. first, that was supposed to be “i like havING enemies…”

    and i wonder if clavos speaks with sarcasm…

    whichever, i’m glad we got this thing sorted. now clavos, don’t go trying to back up dave’s claims… but don’t say he backs up his claims when he quite clearly can’t.

    dave isn’t all bad. quite reasonable most of the time. no stooge. but he also gets quite whacked out about the environment, the economy, socialism and his rosey-eyed view of iraq.

  • Clavos

    Everyone needs a Clavos….

    Martin, why would you want to go and insult zing like that???

    He was trying to help you.

  • Clavos

    the commentors list doesn’t work

    The commenters list is available on the “home” page, zing.

  • Clavos

    no stooge.

    Unlike Clavos.

  • zingzing

    nono, clavos. first, don’t get so down on yourself. i like the stooges.

    second, the list i am referring to is the one where it has the top commentors, and then you can click on their name and it tells you which threads they have commented on. it just goes to a blank page… that says “done” at the bottom.

    does it work for you? i can see how many comments they are responsible for, but not WHAT comments they have made.

  • Martin Lav

    “Martin, why would you want to go and insult zing like that???”

    As usual Clavos, mis-understood, I thanked zingzing and truly am appreciative as I’m sure Dave is of you. eh?

    Anyway, zingzing, you are spot on and NO the top commentors has NOT been working since the look and feel of the site was changed.

    Like this election I suppose, no pain, no gain.

  • Clavos

    I’m not down on myself, zing. I get away with a lot when I’m thought to be a stooge…

    Nope, the commenter’s list isn’t giving me the list of comments either. I tried using both Firefox and IE.

  • Clavos

    No, Martin, I didn’t misunderstand.

    I meant that comparing his support of you to my support of Dave is an insult to zing.

  • Martin Lav

    Impossible!
    Mr. zing backed me up one time, to you, who trolls around backing Dave up all the time.
    No comparison really, so nice try.

    By the way….where is Dave?

  • Bliffle

    I think poor Dave, perhaps overstressed by recent events, is devolving towards Survivalism.

  • Clavos

    Mr. zing backed me up one time, to you, who trolls around backing Dave up all the time.
    No comparison really, so nice try.

    Well, good for you, Martin; you are a gentleman and a scholar.

  • Martin Lav

    #60 Bliffle — now that is hilarious. He’s digging away right now……

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    Dave is working on an article which Martin will really, really hate.

    As for Clavos backing up my prior articles, that seems unnecessary.

    Every one of the articles Martin quoted from includes multiple links to sources within its text which support the statements which I made in the article.

    In addition, all of those articles are quite dated. Most of them are about the Iraq situation and come from a period when things were very different than they are now. At the time they were written they were true and accurate given the information which was available. Clearly Martin has a very short memory.

    I particularly like this last comment Martin quotes:

    “While we’ve been distracted by Katrina and Rita, events in Iraq have been moving towards key turning points.”

    Is he suggesting that things didn’t turn for the worse in Iraq towards the end of 2005 and in early 2006?

    Dave

  • Martin Lav

    You got me Dave, I didn’t read it and I was in a hurry.
    I will read your latest and will be glad to comment soon and will patiently wait for your point by point defense of the illogical.
    I imagine it will be 2 years of hell for you to defend your being obviously wrong, most of the time…..

  • guest938

    I seem to have missed the second half of the letter, where you tell the new employee that if they follow through as promised, they will be kept on and that you will shift your loyalty away from the guy you fired. IOW can they envision a post-probationary period?

    I mean, life-long republicans will not be able to conceive that dems will be effective, but can the dems expect their support if somehow Pelosi et al pull it off?

    People tend to forget that a moderate democrat has a better chance of being an effective administrator and legislator than a knee-jerk republican. The former tends to actually listen, the latter tends to go around ineffectively kicking ass.

  • Taloran

    re comment 65 by guest938 –

    I could be wrong about many things in my letter. However, if I’m correct that the US electorate actively shitcanned the Republicans as a reaction to their numerous public gaffes, rather than actually being enthused about the Democrats, and the Democrats somehow manage to keep their noses clean and their sticky fingers out of the public till for the next two years, I believe there’s a better-than-even chance of the Dems holding on to one or both houses of Congress two years from now.

    However, if the Dems forget the lesson of this election and screw up as badly in this term as the GOP did in the previous term, and get caught stealing, lying, pandering, buggering, cheating, whoring, etc., or destroy the economy by excessively raising taxes, I think it likely that swing voters will again make a change in temporary allegiance and put the Elephants back in power, since there is no viable third alternative.

    If I were a betting man, I’d put my money on the Dems fucking up and getting voted out in ’08.

  • Clavos

    If I were a betting man, I’d put my money on the Dems fucking up and getting voted out in ’08.

    It’s a lead pipe cinch. As so many have said, there’s no real difference; they’re all politicians.

    And mostly lawyers, to boot.

    Power is corrupting…

  • John Q. Public

    It took 12 years for the levels of graft and corruption to solidify in the Republican party. The rise and influence of the K street project coupled with DeLay’s pay to play management style, and the ability of the leadership to get all their members to vote in lockstep took time and money to get into place.

    You have to look at 1996’s election to even come close to an analogous situation. As for betting on the Democrats being ousted form the House in 2008, I’ll take that bet. Not enough time to get really corrupt, and no where near enough time to be found out about it by the public and press.

  • Bliffle

    Perhaps someone, inspired by this patronizing article warning Ds to behave well, should write a corresponding article warning the Rs to behave well now that they’ve been dope-slapped by the electorate. For what do I find but another saber-rattling proclamation (AP release) from the provoker-in-chief:

    “President Bush, responding to concerns Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert brought to the White House, called on Monday for worldwide isolation of Iran until it “gives up its nuclear ambitions.”

    The risk to the world extends beyond Israel and the Middle East,

    The fear is that with American public opinion turning against the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Bush, a Republican, would be less likely to take decisive military or diplomatic action against Iran.

    What arrogance! Apparently Bush has thrown aside the soothing bipartisan humbleness he displayed to the press last wednesday and reverted to the sword swinging warrior threatening his enemies (while STILL refusing to have no-precondition diplomatic contacts with them). What a double-talking betrayer he is!

  • Martin Lav

    He’s a dry drunk.
    Happy one minute, full of visions of grandiosity the next.
    Don’t worry, his Daddy is taking charge now and hopefully his money will insist he get “religion” through 12-step program and then we all can “exhale”.

  • Clavos

    …as long as, like Clinton, we don’t inhale…

  • STM

    “…as long as, like Clinton, we don’t inhale… ”

    On Clinton (whose policies I admired, as a non-American, except for the one that said he didn’t have to keep his knob in his pants and that it was OK to lie to the world about it). I can’t remember who said it – it might even have been one of my mates in the pub – but it was a classic line: “Good job he wasn’t experimenting with coke or he’d still be sitting there looking at the line.”

  • steve

    This election indefinitely proves to the United States that change will soon come about. My main concern lies with the fact that democrats used a smear campaign to gain seats. Like in 2004; the democrats danced around the issues and attacked republican incumbents. Hopefully they will have adequate leadership.

  • http://www.fifthdentist.blogspot.com The Fifth Dentist

    Let ‘em muck it up. It’s their turn.