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Now this is the sort of action that will drive away undesirable elements from any neighborhood where they're not wanted.

By "undesirable elements" I do mean criminals, including drug dealers.

Last Sunday, on a street in the Taughmonagh section of Belfast, a drug dealer was tied to a lamppost by two men in balaclavas, had hot tar and feathers dumped over his head and then had a cardboard sign hung around his neck announcing "IM [sic] A DRUG DEALING SCUMBAG." The men who carried out the attack are suspected to be memebers of the UDA (Ulster Defense Association, a loyalist paramilitary organization).

Although I do not in any way condone either republican or loyalist violence during Belfast's Troubles, I fail to see how this will revive them. This is simply a holdover from the days when the Troubles were active, when both groups routinely used tar and feathering as punishment. The fact is, a drug dealer was active on the Taughmonagh estate. People complained to the police about him. But of course, as anyone living in this country who isn't a brainless celebrity or soulless vivisectionist knows, the police and the laws they enforce are good for nothing. Needless to say, that's exactly what the police did about the drug dealer — nothing. The UDA orginally told residents of Taughmonagh to contact the police. In the words of the Ulster Political Research Group's Frankie Gallagher, "The UDA told the local community to go to the police about this. The community responded in the way it did because it had no confidence in the police."

So the people of Taughmonagh looked after themselves, as so many other people throughout Britain are often forced to do. Two pissed-off residents of the area captured the man, tied him up and administered the tar-and-feathering while a crowd, inclduing women and children, watched. Justice served.

The UDA, however, denies it masterminded or carried out the attack. They describe it as a "community reaction."

Of course, the fallout from the attack has been only too predictable. A Belfast police report moaned that there's "no place in civilised society for people taking the law into their own hands resulting in such a brutal and barbaric attack." You can just hear the unwritten/unspoken codicil to the police statement here: "Especially when we do bugger all, as always." Alliance Party leader David Ford whined, "[M]ost people will find it very hard to believe that the UDA was not involved in this despicable act." Other Northern Ireland politicians also decried the "thuggery" behind the attack.

Callers to a local radio show in Belfast, however, supported the tar-and-feathering attack by a majority of six to one. That certainly speaks volumes about how far removed politicians, judges and the police are from the people they claim to serve.

You can whine all you like about the drug dealer's alleged human rights — and since when could a drug dealer be considered human? There will always be people who will actually tell you with a straight face that British justice is "good" justice. You could say that vigilantes are far worse than the criminals they go after. But as far as I'm concerned, my sympathies lie entirely with the average person in Belfast: This attack was justified. Whoever was responsible for it, I salute them as heroes.

And until the political correctness that cripples our judges, politicians and police forces is dismantled and done away with, I hope we will have a lot more of this type of community reaction.

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  • Dr Dreadful

    So let me get this straight. You don’t condone the Republican and Loyalist violence of the past, but you do condone this incident, which you yourself say is a holdover from that very same past?

    As far as the police not doing anything: first of all, policing in Northern Ireland is a very different kettle of fish than elsewhere in the UK. The Peace is still getting settled in: the cops can’t just go in mob-handed and expect no backlash, especially in sectarianism-plagued areas like the one this incident took place in.

    Secondly, as I understand it the UDA – the recognized vigilante enforcer group in the area – actually advised the locals to go to the police; the locals ignored their advice; and took their own action instead. Now how, exactly, were the police supposed to act on something they hadn’t had a complaint about?

    Thirdly, the fact that six out of every seven callers to a radio programme supported the vigilantes in no way validates what they did. You know as well as I do, if you’ve listened to many of these phone-in shows for more than a few minutes, that the intellectual calibre of most callers is somewhere between that of a hamster and a walnut.

  • Ruvy in Jerusalem

    The cops in Israel are as useful as the cops in Northern Ireland. There are a shitload of assholes who need to be tarred and feathered here for the garbage they pull, just as the scumbag drug dealer was. If the pricks in the Northern Ireland Constabulary collect a salary and don’t do their jobs, then the pricks in the government – their employers – cannot be heard to whine when the citizenry imposes justice. All the bullshit about “the peace is settling in” is just that. dealing drugs does not have to do with “the peace” – it has to do with exploiting the fools who are willing to buy drugs.

    Put bluntly, when the sovereign abandons his people, the people have to act on their own. They have done so and should be applauded for doing so.

  • http://nitpickingnightdragon.blogspot.com Mark Edward Manning

    “All the bullshit about “the peace is settling in” is just that. dealing drugs does not have to do with “the peace” – it has to do with exploiting the fools who are willing to buy drugs.”

    Exactly! Well put, friend. This is not anything to do with the Troubles. This was simply a way of the community’s of dealing with the problem, and they did so, using a method they knew was painful and effective. That drug dealer will surely NOT be blighting the Taughmonagh estate again with his evil trade.

    Dr. Dreadful: The police were informed. Members of the community informed the police several times, in fact, to no avail. They simply would not take action. Only then did some Taughmonagh residents act, whether they were UDA-affiliated or not. Again, this was a scumbag drug dealer, not a loyalist the police would have swooped upon — as if the police anywhere in Britain were interested in doing their jobs. Which they’re not. Either that, or they’re tied up with so much bullshit, politically correct red tape which makes their primary job of protecting the people nearly impossible because there’s no end of criminal “human” rights they’ve got to be careful not to break, thanks to Labour and the EU that Labour bends over backwards to shoe-horn us into.

  • http://www.libertyrepublican.com Dave Nalle

    Vigelante justice is the inevitable by-blow of government which governs for expediency rather than on principle.

    Dave

  • Zedd

    Mark,

    That picture makes you look like you’ve partaken or at least inhaled a little ganja yourself. Spare us man!!

  • Dr Dreadful

    This is not anything to do with the Troubles.

    And a primary source of revenue for the IRA during the troubles was (choose one):

    a) illegal drugs
    b) yard sales
    c) panhandling on street corners
    d) wishing on a star.

    as if the police anywhere in Britain were interested in doing their jobs. Which they’re not.

    Well there’s a nice vote of confidence. Perhaps you’d care to document your claim. You could phone your local police station for comments. I’m sure they’d be delighted to tell you what they think.

    Or are you still just having a hissy fit about their refusal to devote the entire resources of the local force to investigating your burglary?

  • Dr Dreadful

    The cops in Israel are as useful as the cops in Northern Ireland. There are a shitload of assholes who need to be tarred and feathered

    Er – Ruvy… aren’t you one…?

  • http://planetjapan.org Doug DeLong

    WTF? Why don’t we just get rid of the justice system entirely? I guess we don’t need it. The regular folks are apparently qualified to identify the bad guys and render their own judgments. Tar and feather? Is that really enough? Why not bring back lynchings, too? That was pretty effective, don’t you think?

    and since when could a drug dealer be considered human?

    I would submit that on a “humanity” scale, a drug dealer would rank above those of you who are willing to replace a civilized society with your own sick notions of vigilante justice.

  • Ruvy in Jerusalem

    No,

    I’m not a cop. I’m a police volunteer. And I have to say that on the whole we’re a damned sight more professional than the “salaried” folk…

  • http://nitpickingnightdragon.blogspot.com Mark Edward Manning

    “That picture makes you look like you’ve partaken or at least inhaled a little ganja yourself. Spare us man!!”

    Zedd, I’ve heard it zillions of times before. This joke is getting really old, really fast. You spare us, please.

    It’s not the best picture of me, granted. But how long can you and others keep bringing that up whenever I offend the sensibilities of the criminal/moronic class?

  • http://nitpickingnightdragon.blogspot.com Mark Edward Manning

    “Well there’s a nice vote of confidence. Perhaps you’d care to document your claim. You could phone your local police station for comments.”

    Funny you should mention that, Dr. D, for I received a police questionnaire the other day, asking me to rate them on this, that and the other thing: you know, one of those “Agree”/”Disagree with the statement” sort of surveys. Well, I made a hard copy of this piece, highlighted with a yellow marker every negative criticism of the police that I wrote and wrote in large letters on the survey form “SEE ATTACHED!” They want my opinion? They’re getting it!

  • http://www.robot-of-the-week.com Christopher Rose

    I agree. Let’s have more of this type of community action. Let’s start with people who spread messages of hate, fear and violence. Like the author of this article. I hate people who do that and they should all be run out of town. And he’s a dirty immigrant. Lousy good for nothing. Let’s tar and feather him. No, that’s too good for the likes of him. Let’s hang him from a poplar tree. Like a strange fruit…

  • http://nitpickingnightdragon.blogspot.com Mark Edward Manning

    Drug dealers bring violence and depravity to areas they set up “shop” in, drawing people who don’t know better into a world of desperation and encouraging gang activity — and yet I’m the scourge for saying that some kind of action must be taken to remove them from society. I see. Thanks for making that clear, Christopher.

  • http://planetjapan.org Doug DeLong

    and yet I’m the scourge for saying that some kind of action must be taken to remove them from society.

    Well, you’re close. You’re the scourge for wanting to remove them from society without due process of law. I know it’s inconvenient; it’s much easier just to tar and feather them, but it really is the glue that holds society together. Any child knows that.

  • http://culturesalad.blogspot.com Ray Ellis

    Drug dealers bring in one set of “violence and depravity.” Your Cap’n Action thugs bring in another. What would you call their action, if not “desperation and gang activity”?

    But you, Mark, sit on the sidelines, an American expat, and clap your hands in glee. If you’re really concerned about these issues, why don’t you get actively involved in watchdog groups that make a difference and work within the law?

    I certainly wouldn’t presume to tell Britain how to handle her affairs, but I will presume the last thing they need is a bitter yank applauding gangsta violence.

  • Dr Dreadful

    Also, Mark, you seem very confident that Taughmonagh is now permanently rid of the drug dealer.

    What makes you think he won’t just wait until the storm dies down and then start up business again? Or that someone else won’t step in to fill the gap in the market?

    Or that he’s now extremely pissed and is busy planning revenge against the people who humiliated him?

  • http://culturesalad.blogspot.com Ray Ellis

    Any or all of which are likely scenarios, Dr. D.

  • http://www.robot-of-the-week.com Christopher Rose

    And that these violent thugs actually got the right guy.

    And that it is right that all drugs are illegal in the first place.

    And you didn’t say that some kind of action should be taken, you specifically called for vigilanteeism, which I rightly mocked.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Chris quipped: I hate people who do that and they should all be run out of town.

    Or, in the words of the inimitable Tom Lehrer:

    “There are people on this Earth who do not love their fellow man – and I hate people like that!”

  • Clavos

    Vigilantism, Chris.

    (Heh. Love to catch the Brits!)

  • http://www.robot-of-the-week.com Christopher Rose

    Vigilanteism is also correct usage, Clavos, but I put my hands up to your vigilant observation of the extra e!

  • Dr Dreadful

    Yeah, but, Chris, but, you didn’t say “vigilanteism”, you said “vigilanteeism”.

    So let’s analyze this morphologically: a vigilante being one who exacts justice without reference to the formal law, it follows that a vigilantee would be the object or victim of said vigilante. So vigilanteeism, presumably, would be an anti-vigilante movement led by the victims of vigilantes…

    :-)

  • http://www.robot-of-the-week.com Christopher Rose

    And it was that second e that I was putting my hands up for Doc. Are you stoned?

  • Clavos

    And if you are, don’t Bogart it!

  • Dr Dreadful

    REMF, I see a comment from you on the Recent Comments page, but it’s not here when I click on it. Maybe you made one typo too many for Mr Rose’s sanity!?

    How was the mountain?

    No Clav vs. Moon mud wrestling, sadly. I heard they couldn’t agree on TV rights…

    ;-)

  • REMF

    Dr.;
    Approximately two-thirds of my comments get deleted by the comments editor. He calls it the “MCH Exception.” I’m on double secret probation.

    Aw, the mountain was great, thanks for asking. Cathedral Peak, north of Yellowstone Park. Absolutely beautiful.
    (MCH)

  • Clavos

    “Approximately two-thirds of my comments get deleted by the comments editor.”

    There’s a lesson in there somewhere, MCH.

  • REMF

    ^ Oh, OK Hemingway.

  • Clavos

    Thanks for the compliment.

    Ernest is one of my favorite writers.

  • REMF

    Yep, Clavvy and Ernie…two of the finest!

  • Clavos

    Ernie, had he not offed himself, might disagree with you, emmy.

    But thanks anyway.

  • REMF

    Re #10;
    “Zedd, I’ve heard it zillions of times before. This joke is getting really old, really fast. You spare us, please.”
    – MEM

    So “zillions of times” is “really fast” eh? Einstein and Sagen would be interested to hear that.

    And if it is so fast, the joke can’t be that “old” can it…?
    (MCH)

  • Clavos

    Sagan.

    Annoying, aren’t I?

  • Dr Dreadful

    At least you caught it before Chris did…

  • REMF

    “Annoying, aren’t I?”

    >> ain’t I <<

  • REMF

    I used to spell Sagan correctly, but due to Kerry’s 1971 speech, I’ve been misspelling it since 1966.

  • Nancy

    I can see both sides of this argument. Got a good laugh out of Dr. D’s usual inimitable verbal about intelligence between a hamster & a walnut; what an image. Still, I can’t cry much for the violated “rights” of the offended drug dealer. Around here at least, people in the ‘hood generally know exactly who is a dealer, there’s very little mistake about that. I’d be willing to bet the Irish aren’t too much different in that regard, so I doubt the id of this guy as a dealer is far off. And Nalle is right in that, for the most part, vigilantism (?) usually is a product of government failing or refusing to do its job in the perceptions of the community, isn’t it (racial unrest in the US aside)?

  • Ruvy in Jerusalem

    “Well, you’re close. You’re the scourge for wanting to remove them from society without due process of law.”

    Doug,

    You seem to miss the main point in the article. The sovereign – the police – have abandoned the community to their own devices. When the “due processor” of due process of the law takes the last train to the coast and doesn’t give a fuck – you need to take matters into your own hands. The residents of the neighborhood did just this.

    Only now are the stupid uniformed fucks – and their big-time flunky bosses – whining. The abandonment of the sovereign is an embarrassment to them.

  • cian

    wont you writh about justice is best served by truth.

  • Cindy D

    Could someone explain what the MCH means? I’ve always wondered that.

  • that kid

    wow