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As part of a settlement agreement resulting from a lawsuit filed by Maurice Thompson of the 1851 Center for Constitutional Law, ACORN has agreed to permanently give up its business license and curtail many of its political activities in the state of Ohio.

The agreement does not prohibit some of their other activities, but it does amount to an admission that their voter registration efforts produced a demonstrable pattern of fraudulent regstrations. Under the settlement ACORN is supposed to end its operations in Ohio by June 1st. They have also agreed not to return to the state to carry out those operations under a different name as they did when prohibited from registering voters in New York and California.

ACORN representatives seem to be in denial about the nature of the settlement, claiming they had already left Ohio voluntarily for other reasons, and that their “opponents are lying in an effort to keep down the black vote and prevent organizing in low income areas.”

The community organizing group has been accused of voter registration fraud, vote buying and other crimes in more than two-dozen states, but has historically shifted blame to employees, many of whom have been indicted and convicted. At least 14 states currently have active investigations pending against ACORN.

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About Dave Nalle

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    Considering you wrote no newsflash about ACORN being cleared of charges in NY, it’s probably best for readers to take your skewed opinion of the settlement with a grain of salt.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Considering that an Arab shooter killed Rav Meir Kahana, z”l, hy”d, in NYC in 1990 – and was cleared by a jury there – and this same Arab was subsequently found guilty of having contributed to the attempt to blow up the World Trade Center in 1993 – the acquittal of ACORN in NY rates a shrug at best.

    Juries are easily misled or misled. I damn near got my chance to exercise that privilege 35 years ago.

    There are no juries in Israel – hence no jury duty. A shame.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    I was going to fix the typo in comment #2 (misled or misled), but anyone leading 6 or 12 people down a garden path is misleading them. So let #2 stand as is.

    Hah!!

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    EB, I wasn’t aware ACORN had been cleared in New York. I wasn’t even aware they had been charged with anything in New York.

    On searching I suspect that what you’re talking about is the case of the O’Keefe sting tape. No charges were ever actually filed in the case. There was an investigation to determine if charges should be filed and the DA decided not to charge them.

    Dave

  • zingzing

    didn’t o’keefe get arrested?

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Dave,

    I have read this article.

    “Acorn is gratified that the DA has concluded something we knew all along,” ACORN lawyer Arthur Schwartz said, adding it was “unfortunate” the O’Keefe and Giles used “subterfuge to convince congress and the media to vilify an organization that didn’t deserve it.”

    I wrote an article that describes how people have had to fight for suffrage in this country, and apparently the Fifteenth Amendment is still in danger of not being followed to the letter.

    Perhaps, you could read it and give me your opinion.

    This is why, I’m a firm believer in the necessity of our federal government.

    How convenient it would be for some, if it were to be shrunk down to an insignificant size.

    Who owns The Employment Policies Institute?

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Zing, the O’Keefe arrest was not ACORN related. It was connected to an operation he was involved in at Mary Landrieu’s office in Louisiana. He was filming men who were posing as a phone crew and what they were actually trying to do there is rather unclear.

    It has also recently been revealed that he carried out another set of undercover video stings at HUD offices where he got employees to provide information in support of potential efforts to defraud the government’s housing subsidy program.

    Dave

  • zingzing

    they were tampering with phone lines. tapping them, i guess. i read about what their aims were somewhere, but can’t seem to find it now… they had a pretty specific goal in mind.

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    it is ‘articles’ like this that drive away sensible people from blogcritics politics.

    it is pure opinion, not a ‘new flash’ (flush, maybe).

    the settlement is mostly confidential and yet all sorts of conclu…er, facts…can be presented from that.

    embarrassing.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Mark, there is nothing in this article which isn’t taken straight out of the AP reports and local news reports or established facts about ACORN. I challenge you to find a single statement in it which can be honestly characterized as opinion, except maybe the first sentence of the third paragraph. Even the conclusions drawn about the settlement are based on statements of those involved on both sides.

    If all our newsflashes were this straightforward we’d be doing great.

    If you want to complain about Newsflashes I suggest you check out William Lambers ongoing series of advertisements for world hunger relief programs.

    Dave

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    I guess Dave cannot see the link in comment #6, that’s OK, other people can.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Dave Nale,

    “While the video by James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles seemed to show three ACORN workers advising a prostitute how to hide ill-gotten gains, the unedited version was not as clear, according to a law enforcement source.

    “They edited the tape to meet their agenda,” said the source.

    O’Keefe and Giles – who visited ACORN offices in several cities, including its Brooklyn headquarters – stirred controversy when they posted the videos on their Web site.

    They were hailed as heroes by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and their footage led several government agencies to temporarily cut funding for ACORN as the prosecutors opened an investigation.

    “On Sept. 15, 2009, my office began an investigation into possible criminality on the part of three ACORN employees,” Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes said in a one-paragraph statement issued Monday afternoon.

    ‘That investigation is now concluded and no criminality has been found.'” source is in comment #6

  • zingzing

    Mark S: “it is ‘articles’ like this that drive away sensible people from blogcritics politics.”

    but it draws you out? conclusions are being made, but questioned.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    In other words, ACORN, is innocent of all this implied and fabricated wrong-doing.

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    actually zing, i saw the bicho’s first comment in the new comments box and clicked on it. that was the only ‘draw’. the content was a repellent.

    oh yeah, i love the link to rottonacorn in a ‘news’ post.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Zing,

    I make a lot of sense and I am a very sensible woman. This is exactly why I want to stay here!

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Jeannie, this article is in no way about O’Keefe. His activities are not even mentioned. It’s fallacious to assume that because they got a pass on one crime they are innocent of others.

    And Mark, I linked to RottenAcorn because it is an easy place to go for a list of recent ACORN indictments. If you can find a page that provides a similar list taken direct from news reports I’ll link to it instead.

    Dave

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Dave,

    This article is about ACORN, and ACORN is innocent of wrong-doing. I proved it in #6 and #12.

    We have the right to include everyone in this elective process. In case you misunderstood #6, I was asking you to read my article and not the Fifteenth Amendment.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    I challenge you to find a single statement in it which can be honestly characterized as opinion, except maybe the first sentence of the third paragraph.

    By my interpretation paragraphs 2, 3 and 4 all contain the author’s opinions.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    No, Jeannie. ACORN has not been charged in the one instance you mention. That does not mean they are not guilty, it means that whatever they did was deemed not worth prosecuting. It also says nothing at all about their guilt or innocence in any other situations.

    That one instance in New York was not some sort of blanket pardon for every ACORN operation nationwide.

    Dave

  • Baronius

    Zing, as I understand it, they weren’t tampering with the phones.

    Senator Landrieu voted for the health care bill, and claimed that she didn’t get calls in opposition to the bill because her phones were down. O’Keefe and some buddies threw on fake uniforms and went to her office, claiming that they were there to fix the phones. They wanted to get the staff on camera saying that the phones were fine, and had never been out of operation. The staff called the police. O’Keefe was misrepresenting himself, had recording equipment, and asked to look at the phone lines, and the police drew the conclusion that he was there to tap the phone lines.

  • zingzing

    ahh, that is a possibility. i heard, however, that he was trying to get the phone lines redirected towards another number, which he/his people would control, and they could then talk to pissed off people themselves, since the senator wasn’t. but that sounds like a lot of work. i can’t quite recall where i read that, and i can’t seem to find it anywhere, but that is what i recall (however faulty/ridiculous that might possibly be).

  • zingzing

    of course, that theory could be discredited by now as well, although, we’ll probably never know what exactly he was up to, as he never quite got as far as he obviously planned…

  • Baronius

    James O’Keefe seems more the “prankster with a video camera” type than a “redirect the phone lines” type.

  • zingzing

    maybe a prankster with a video camera and some editing equipment…

  • John Wilson

    I heard that the Grand Jury would indict a ham sandwich. So indictments don’t mean much.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    That one instance in New York was not some sort of blanket pardon for every ACORN operation nationwide.

    And neither is the settlement in Ohio some sort of blanket proof of ACORN wrongdoing nationwide.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Baronius’ scenario sounds pretty believable. Let’s hope he gets as much consideration for his relatively harmless prank as the ACORN employees in New York who were not charged got for their expert advising services on starting a brothel.

    Dave

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “Baronius’ scenario sounds pretty believable.”

    That’s because it fits your warped partisan mindset. No surprise that it’s wildly inaccurate according to the report by David Hammer in The Times-Picayune who links to the FBI affidavit?

    The fact that you find this a harmless prank but believe ACORN was really advising how to start a brothel, which the DA who saw the complete, unedited tapes disagrees with, shows why your judgment on these matters should not be trusted.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Dave,

    It is possible that ACORN is a decent organization with a good cause, to help people register to vote. Please, think about it.

  • Baronius

    El B – Read the affadavit. No mention of wiretapping, which is a serious federal crime. No mention of surveillance equipment being found on the suspects. There’s also no more mention of wiretapping on the Times-Picayune site. I found this at the bottom of the CBS article:

    *Correction: The headline and subhead of this story initially referrred to the suspects as attempting a “phone bug.” They have been changed to reflect the fact that the men have been accused of tampering, not bugging.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    No mention of wiretapping here either, so not sure why you are bringing it up. Is it to distract from the fact that #21 misrepresents the events as you stated them?

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    And neither is the settlement in Ohio some sort of blanket proof of ACORN wrongdoing nationwide.

    Which I certainly never even came close to saying.

    The fact that you find this a harmless prank but believe ACORN was really advising how to start a brothel, which the DA who saw the complete, unedited tapes disagrees with, shows why your judgment on these matters should not be trusted.

    Anyone who could see all the massive evidence of the activities ACORN has been involved in and not be suspicious of everything else they do is living in denial. They gave up any claim to the benefit of the doubt long, long ago.


    It is possible that ACORN is a decent organization with a good cause, to help people register to vote.

    And it’s possible that I’m really Batman, but it’s improbable.

    Dave

  • Julie Smith

    This article is so not true. ACORN has already shut down Ohio operations due to other factors. The Supreme Court of Ohio dismissed any charges of voter registration fraud as unfounded LAST year. To use the example of Cuyahoga County, out of 80,000 registrations, less than .001 percent were duplicate registrations or registrations with incorrect or false information. One of the most egregious cases was that of a registrant who registered at least 8 times with ACORN and over 15 times with other organizations, including the Public Library, NAACP and even at the Board of Elections offices. The biggest ‘problem’ with ACORN voter registration efforts is that it gave more poor, urban, working-class, and minority voters the push to get out and actually cast a vote, which is troubling to those who’d rather see them NOT vote.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Jeannie said it is possible that ACORN is a decent organization with a good cause, to help people register to vote.

    Dave replied and it’s possible that I’m really Batman, but it’s improbable.

    This is a good example of why Jeannie is tired of Dave, however she will continue to read his articles and comment on them, and one day she might gain just a smidgen of respect.

    :) She also hopes that Dave has a wonderful day!

  • Baronius

    El B – I assumed that you were referring to wiretapping because the original Times-Picayune report portrayed the incident that way. Also because Zing had the same misconception.

    Otherwise, there’s no reason to say that my description was “wildly inaccurate”. You’ll notice that the affadavit doesn’t conflict with my comment #21 except for the fact that O’Keefe was acting as a bystander.

  • zingzing

    jesus, dave, if you’d stop sucking o’keefe’s dick for a moment, you might consider that he’s been 100% dishonest, while acorn has almost always been an organization dedicated to getting people registered to vote. in fact, you’ve yet, despite numerous requests, to bring up on verifiable bit of voter fraud perpetrated by acorn. obviously, you haven’t even proved their guilt to yourself, but are just going on some gut instinct or something, and that’s not enough. don’t swallow, dave. it’s funky.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Jeannie, talking about yourself in the third person is a sign you’re losing it.

    Zing, I don’t find O’Keefe attractive. Either physically or intellectually.

    But I like ACORN even less. And as I have pointed out multiple times their efforts are not to commit specific acts of voter fraud but to render the entire voting system invalid so that fraud will be impossible to detect or prevent.

    Dave

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Why? It may be a literary vehicle and at times, an effective one.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Roger, it suggests she exists in an altered state of reality where she views reality like the narrative in a novel.

    Dave

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Not the worst way to be, Dave.

    So was Carlos Castaneda through his alter ego, Don Juan the sorcerer.

    Aside from fame and royalties, it earned him a PhD in Anthropology from NYU.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Thank you Roger, I used style to drive home my point!

    Did it work, Dave?

    TSK,TSK, someday he’ll see my sense of humor.:)

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Roger,

    Teachings of Don Juan? Good book, I liked Siddhartha.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I am on to you, Jeannie.

    You’re not as silly as you may sometimes appear.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Separate Reality was his first one, I believe.

    That’s why I responded to Dave the way I did.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Right back attcha, Roger! :) You are sometimes the smartest man in the world…I like him:)

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Are we friends tonight? hope so.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I was never anything but, Jeannie.

    I don’t mean smart, just a friend.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Roger,

    I’m going to go eat, I’ve become really grouchy…bye for a short while, friend.