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A Final Look at the House, M.D. Season Finale “Moving On”

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I’ve done a lot of thinking about “Moving On,” the House, M.D. Season 7 finale. I decided after watching its original airing, I’d let it rest a week and watch it again without preconceived notions fueled by spoilers and promos, and without the news of Lisa Edelstein’s (Lisa Cuddy) departure too fresh in my mind. It’s sunk in by now that she’s not returning, and in a way, the finale—whatever you may think of it—gives the series an way to make the break permanent if that’s what the parties want. (Although who knows? There’s no reason to believe she’ll stay away forever, and wouldn’t it be spectacular for her to make a surprise guest appearance sometime this season?)

Many people came into the finale already upset and feeling betrayed by the series Powers That Be as well as the network(s) involved in bringing House, M.D. into our homes each week. The network took forever to finalize a deal to renew the series for an eighth season, and Edelstein’s departure was collateral damage from the deal ultimately inked. So, too, all other contracts forged between the actors and the network.

So, a week later, distanced from the news, and having by then already seen the shocker of an ending—and having chatted with the episode’s writers—I jumped back in to watch again. Before I talk about the ending, which will be most of this commentary’s focus, I want to say how much I loved everything leading up to it: from  House’s (Hugh Laurie) interactions with the patient, with Wilson, and with Cuddy; his introspection regarding the damage done to himself in “After Hours,” and his efforts to move past it—and desire to change.

House comprehends that what had been done in the self-surgery was idiotic if not irrational, although, in true House fashion he’d rather sweep the ramifications under the carpet with an “I’ll never do it again,” than deal with the sort of emotional (and physical) pain that drove him to do it in the first place. Laurie does a wonderful job of expressing House’s attempt to convince himself that he’s going to change, while telegraphing the fact that it’s simply a whitewash.

House is a drowning man in his own way; drowning in self-loathing, deflecting all help—denying he needs it. All his friends can do is stand by and watch as he self-destructs (in an interesting parallel between this week’s patient Afsoun and her assistant/lover Luka). That is nearly what happens in “After Hours,” until a last minute rescue by Cuddy saves him from himself.

In “Moving On,” House insists that he recognizes the self-destructiveness of his “After Hours” action and is ready to move on and past his hurt and anger. He’s deluding himself, even as Wilson and Cuddy want to believe him. They know he’s in pain; they know he’s not really off his self-destructive path. How can he be with a wave of his hand and a bad experience from which he’s (once again) been rescued? I think that’s why Wilson and Cuddy are so insistent that House get beyond whatever corrosive is eating away at his heart and soul—get it out of his system.

But would they have been more successful (and certainly result in something less destructive) had they let House work it through himself? I’m not only thinking about “Moving On,” I mean since the beginning? Would the Ketamine treatment have worked better had Wilson and Cuddy not conspired to get House “to change” while a window of possibility was still open, for example, at the beginning of Season 3? Are they truly enablers—or have they been dis-ablers? Is their friendship at once co-dependent and corrosive? Did House need to break completely with his closest companions to truly get a fresh start?

I’m not entirely sure, but I wonder how much of that is running through our (decidedly unheroic) hero’s mind during the Season 7 finale. And was the conclusion to it, shocking as it was, more inevitable than it might have appeared? Which brings me to the final moments of “Moving On.”

I think perhaps through editing or direction (since there is no dialogue until the very end), some of House’s confused, complicated motivations might have been made clearer. Although it may have been intended to keep things ambiguous as to why House would barrel his car at full speed into Cuddy’s dining room, it is not clear (as the episode’s writers told me) to many, even very careful viewers, that House isn’t actually homicidal.

Something obviously snaps inside him when he observes Cuddy clearing the dishes from a quiet, nice normal dinner with her sister and an (apparent) new suitor. For what it’s worth, I believe that when House exits the car with Cuddy’s hairbrush in his hand, he fully intends to be an adult and give it back to her, symbolically and in fact letting go of the pain through the last intimate connection to her. (How much more intimate an object—her hairbrush residing so domestically in his bathroom?) As long as it is there, there’s a chance she’ll come back to him; giving it back renders it final, reminding me of House’s admonition to Wilson in Season 2 about calling a divorce lawyer when his marriage breaks up. House needs to make it final; to move on and past the pain of this relationship. Except he can’t.

I have always said that it’s not that House feels too little; it’s that he feels too much—and much more than he wants to feel. Maybe the gesture with the brush is House’s way of praying “for a different answer this time.” Maybe the prayer is to let it simply end; maybe for reconciliation.

When Wilson finds him back at his apartment in the scene just before the crash, House is already pretty close to despair. He sits alone in his flat, popping pills, sitting in the dark and not answering his doorbell or phone. Wilson interrupts House’s despair to be a friend. “Let’s go the Saw Mill,” he suggests. Go out for drink to drown sorrows and maybe “talk about it.” But House wants to return the brush first. “It’s been on my mind,” he says.

As he walks up the steps with the brush in hand, so solemnly and with such difficulty, he stops, lifting his eyes to the domestic scene inside. And where he thinks perhaps he can move on—and that the break with Cuddy might be clean; or maybe believing that showing up with the brush will erase their mutual hurts and there’s still a chance for them—he now knows better, and his heart is broken all over again.

So what is he thinking then, as he makes his way back to the car and Wilson? I don’t think it is at this point that he makes the impulsive decision to ram Cuddy’s house; I think he’s determined run away—to anywhere. He pushes Wilson away, demanding that he exit the car and leave him alone. He doesn’t want platitudes or even commiseration. He just wants to be alone; House can’t let even Wilson see him like this.

So, he drives off, and I can’t really tell who he’s angriest with; is it himself—or Cuddy? Or just generally furious with the world? But as he’s driving, he impulsively turns the car around. The Vicodin meant to numb him (he’s certainly taken enough of it) isn’t helping, and he simply snaps. Does part of him know what he’s doing? Maybe. Is he aware enough to realize that the room is empty as he barrels into Cuddy’s home? It’s possible, but I just don’t know.

Would he have stopped, or veered away into another part of the house had he seen people in the room, as Peter Blake suggested to me? It’s impossible to know since the camera is in House’s POV, not the living room’s. We see what he sees, but not the expression on his face, which would have given a better sense of what is going through House’s mind at that moment.

But it’s irrelevant in a way, because although what he does is shocking and (in some ways) in character—and I even understand it—that final action makes House persona non-grata in the hospital and its universe. Eventually, it will probably make our self-loathing House despise himself even more for having driven away Cuddy, Wilson, and everyone else who’s meaningful to him.

We, as the audience, I believe, are meant to react to House just as Cuddy has; she is shaking and furious. So are we. Whatever demons House possesses, he’s never really been malicious. His most destructive qualities have almost always been aimed at himself (with rare exceptions); House hurts himself, not others. But this House is not our House; he has betrayed us as he’s betrayed Cuddy and Wilson. And perhaps that is what we are meant to feel.

We are left stunned and confused at what has driven him (literally). The writers help explain his motivation, although they rightly remind us that all writing is open to layers of interpretation: the director, the actor, and the viewer. House could not emotionally break away from Cuddy, even after all they’d been through. She’s apparently moved on; he cannot, they explained.

Although what he does isn’t rational, it serves to burn his bridges, making it impossible for them ever to be emotionally involved again. (How could she even think about it, given the enormity of what House has done?). 

In a way, the ending—House walking calmly away from Wilson and planting himself on some real or imagined tropical island sipping pina coladas—is the culmination of seven years of people telling him to change, to do something other than repress whatever rage of emotion roils inside him. “I expressed my feelings,” he tells Wilson simply. “Screw you all,” is what he’s really saying. “Just leave me the fuck alone.”

We actually don’t know that House ends Season 7 on an unimaginably gorgeous beach in Figi or Rio or Hawaii. It is real enough, and said the writers, there is no reason to believe for now that it’s not real. But I have to wonder.

I suppose it could be real—that House hops a taxi, picks up his passport, and heads to the airport: no suitcase, no change of clothes. On the other hand, it’s just as plausible that House is actually back in his apartment and staring out the window as he had been when Wilson visits him earlier. That all remains to be seen next season.

The creative team at House has never been risk averse. The very notion of House as the hero of a network television series was a risk, even as we first met him years ago. But taking a risk like this—making House unsympathetic and destructive—at the end of Season 7 with the ratings slipping—is a huge gamble. Whatever else happens to House or any of the other characters on the show, they can’t leave him this unsympathetic for very long or the audience will stop caring. And that would be deadly to the show. We need to care about House; we need to be able to be on his side (at least most of the time). And therein lies the challenge.

So the creative team: the writers, producers, directors, and actors have their work cut out for them. The writers have told me there will be a price to be paid by House, there will be consequences—and we will see them as he tries to repair the damage he’s done. But can they redeem a character that seems to have fallen so far off course?  And with that challenge comes opportunity to explore House in new directions. Unfortunately, that will be without Lisa Edelstein’s Lisa Cuddy—unless she puts in a guest appearance.

If season finales are meant to leave viewers mouths agape and wondering how the hell they’re going to get out of it, the House team has succeeded. And although many viewers didn’t think the ending of “Moving On” was anything but in character, many others are still trying to wrap their heads around House’s actions. The trick will be to get everyone to come back at the start of Season 8, excited and enthusiastic about what’s to come in what may, indeed, be the series final season. I can’t wait.

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About Barbara Barnett

Barbara Barnett is Publisher/Executive Editor of Blogcritics, (blogcritics.org). Her Bram Stoker Award-nominated novel, called "Anne Rice meets Michael Crichton," The Apothecary's Curse The Apothecary's Curse is now out from Pyr, an imprint of Prometheus Books. Her book on the TV series House, M.D., Chasing Zebras is a quintessential guide to the themes, characters and episodes of the hit show. Barnett is an accomplished speaker, an annual favorite at MENSA's HalloWEEM convention, where she has spoken to standing room crowds on subjects as diverse as "The Byronic Hero in Pop Culture," "The Many Faces of Sherlock Holmes," "The Hidden History of Science Fiction," and "Our Passion for Disaster (Movies)."
  • bakerstreet blues

    Hey 50+, in all the years that we have known and loved House, what is the one and only emotion that we know he cannot control? GRIEF, it landed him in Mayfield the last time it overtook him. It is completely understandable that he chose to explode rather than really lose his mind again (maybe permanently this time). The grief that House is experiencing seems normal (for him), just remember Esther after 12 years. How did Cuddy or Wilson really expect House to get over the completely heartless way that Cuddy ended this relationship? Seems to me Cuddy ended this love affair with the same bland emotion that she began it. Of course I never trust anyone that will only declare their love once they see how weak you are. Reminds me of a vulture. I also believe that Wilson hopefully learns something here as well. There is a price for “ENDLESSLY LECTURING SOMEONE DOES MAKE YOU A JERK” I hope that if I ever treat someone that I “Love” with such a cold uncaring attitude that “that someone” rams their car into my house.

  • Nickel

    It wasn’t jealousy that House felt, it was the fact that Cuddy really did NOT care about what she did to him. He was treated exactly like Lucas was and oddly enough probably the same way that this new guy will be treated. If nothing else maybe House taught Cuddy a lesson that she sorely needed to learn…..you cannot trample on someones heart without considering the consequences. Lets face it Lucas could have done the exact same thing to her (and might have if he did not feel so STUPID considering House warned him of her feelings for him instead). As soon as House took all the responsibility for their break-up Cuddy happily, merrily moved on….removed all her guilt and got to blame House for yet another decision that she made that she did not like…(Vogler, Court, her Mother….god I could just go on forever for all the blame that she gave him). Personally I am SOOOOO glad that Cuddy is gone. I just hope that House doesn’t kiss Wilson’s ass now. Maybe Wilson learned a little something also…I guess you really can’t keep dumping all your shit into someone else without causing some problems.

  • nicole

    Please people, if Greg House were murderous he would have attacked Cuddy when he handed her her brush. He did a terrific metaphorical re-enactment of what she did to him. She used a stake thru his heart, he used his car thru her home…..oddly enough right where they both live.

  • Bob

    I understand where House is coming from the same way I understand where OJ was coming from. But like real life you can’t take that moment back, and with that act House was transformed from a jerk we love to a jerk we hate. Rachel could have been in that room for all he knew.

  • Val

    @Abbyb I think you nailed it on that one!

  • Val

    I just don’t see how they can work this out. Do you think there going to pull a “It was aall a dreammmm..” on us? lol. Or make it a year later and start over? IDK, I think they “Jumped the Shark” on this one.

  • abbyb


    I think he became so angry because he realized Cuddy had lied to him. She said she hadn’t been dating anyone, and there she was with this other guy. Cuddy said in an earlier season that she never lied to House. This, perhaps was the ultimate betrayal, the last and unacceptable hurt from her.

  • Michele1L

    I was not angry at House nor was I shocked at what he did. I thought it was completely in character. His behavior has been escalating since the breakup. I think House and Cuddy had a bit of a breakthrough in the hallway of the hospital when he admitted to being hurt (which was obvious anyway) and that there was a possibilty in that moment of a reconcilation between them — but House was not going to risk that, wrenched his hand away from hers and walked away. I think House was struggling with his desire to be with her and his need to avoid further emotional pain. After all, if they were to reconcile, what’s to stop her from changing her mind yet again? She did say to him she didn’t want him to change only to break up with him because she didn’t believe he could change. — What the hell sense did THAT make? — Let alone to an uber logical man like House.

    I think he was more angry with himself for buying into her. In his mind he knew it would not work, because he, I feel has always known Cuddy better than she knows herself. He allowed himself to be coaxed into making an effort he believed would be futile, when normally he would stand his ground.

    When he saw the gentleman through the dining room window, he felt further betrayed, after being told by Cuddy she wasn’t dating anyone.

    Cuddy had forgiven House for everything in the past. He had to do something for which she would never forgive him. Something that would allow him to feel closure. I’m not condoning what he did, but I understand it, and rather than feeling unsympathetic and angry with him, I felt quite the opposite. I felt relieved to see him looking lighter in spirit, smiling and seemingly optimistic. God only knows whether any of this is real and, if so, how they would get him out of it intact, but it certainly offers up the opportunity to reset the show and revisit the wonderful, quiet, revelatory nuances of this character which were sorely missing from this season.

    I think some of the viewers jumped ship, not because Cuddy and House were brought together, but due to the way they were split appart. House was so heavy of heart and “extra” miserable, back to popping vicodin, it just seemed more of the same but worse — and many of us just don’t want more of the same. The show and its characters have always showm progression — and some of us just aren’t interested in seeing things go backwards.

    I, too, can’t wait for season eight! Please be GREAT!

  • 60 plus

    #253 housemaniac I won’t even try to say whether or not TPTB decided that people change. 🙂 (It’s my opinion that the word “change” in the Housian world has become subject to many interpretations and sometimes seems to be a lightning rod!)

    At any rate, I do not think that House has changed at his core. I think his feelings have always been there, but that a big part of his problem has been his inability to deal with them or even acknowledge them. I think it was Barbara who said at one point that it isn’t that he doesn’t feel…he feels too much! But, as I said in my post, he values his rational thinking above anything else, and tries to completely deny or devalue the part of himself that feels. So I don’t think his “losing it” represents a fundamental change in who he is at his core. It does, of course, represent a different behavior…one that he would never ever consider if he were behaving as his normal rational self would. That is why I said that I agree that he was completely out of character during the crash episode…meaning that he was not behaving as we have most often seen him for seven years. I did not mean to imply that being out of character represented a basic change in who House is, merely that we were seeing him deal with his feelings of anger and frustration in a way that was not rational. To use a cliche…we saw another layer of the onion being peeled back, but it’s still the same onion.

    Of course, your definition of change may differ. That’s what makes discussions such as this one fascinating.

  • housemaniac

    P.S. Thanks Visitkarte and SciFi Fan for your well wishes.

  • housemaniac

    #231 60+: So does this mean you think that TPTB decided at some point that people DO change? I don’t see the episode as you do, but I agree that House seems to have changed. I hope this bodes well for further (hopefully not negative) character development in Season 8!

  • Action Kate

    @248: aha, someone else remembered one of the two funny bits from Hugh’s better SNL episode! (the other funny bit was the “Queen’s Advance Man,” a skit worthy of ABOFL. and his second episode was awful.)

  • Robin

    Barbara, your thoughts are excellent and I agree with you. I’ve always contended House feels so intensely, he can’t handle the emotions and so flees from them for the pain they cause him. That dovetails nicely with the idea that House’s fatal flaw is his inability to face pain of any kind.

    Referencing comment #231 by 60+: agreed. This is the conclusion I’ve come to as well. It doesn’t excuse or rationalize House’s behavior, which is reprehensible. What it does is try to understand it, something of a challenge since we’re also dealing with (IMO) self-indulgent, self-parodying writing, substituting crude tropes and gimmicks for subtlety and layered plots.

    I’m hoping (and it’s a very small hope) the storyline will not shy away from the consequences of actions taken in S8. I want to see how House is going to deal with what he’s done, and what he’ll do now that he’s sabotaged his life so thoroughly yet again. My focus is on House because Hugh Laurie/Greg House is the reason why I started watching the series, and he’s why I still watch–that’s my preference. I’ll be there for S8.

  • BrokenLeg

    244 @ Elisabeth
    You’re welcome!!

  • merkof

    248 – Earth Orbiter

    Is it possible you did not understand the sarcasm, as english is not my maternal language?
    A clown’s eyes “most clownish” I wrote.

    Anyway, I doubt HL will ever read anything of all this, but I agree he would “laugh like hell”.

    After all this is not reality, it’s a show.

    So I find a bit overboard the “my favorite character has been destroyed” etc.

    Nonetheless derogatory remarks whether about people or our choices seem to me unfair.

    As you say “…..sit back and enjoy the show”

  • Earth Orbiter


    1. A wise person once said, “You can go all day without food or sex, but you can’t get through the day without one good rationalization.”

    2. Hugh Laurie’s eyes are “mirrors of [his] soul.” Hmmm… Clearly, then, his soul is stressed out and possibly hypertensive, because his eyes just look tired and bloodshot to me. I think if he read that paragraph, he’d laugh like hell, then roll over and take a nap.

    3. Lighten up, Sweet Cheeks. This site is not meant to inform or educate; its meant to entertain and “amuse.” So sit back and enjoy the show.

    4. Adults? Yeah, right.

  • Djes

    @ 243 – just a thought
    no probs with the dean of medicine, it’s like with the team, everyone can be replaced.
    @ 246 – zeke
    I also hope that s8 will be the last, we feel that writers have no more interesting ideas to keep the audience.

  • zeke

    i liked first five or four seasons, when the show had more of a dark humor and less of a soap. it is still watchable, but it’s slowly going downhill. i hope, the eighth season will be the final.

  • merkof

    • 232 – 50+
    “I find it amusing that, two or three weeks after the finale, the “rationalizers” are finding their way to the surface. I guess the new equation reads as such: Pretty blue eyes = absolution.”
    I do resent this remark.
    1. We “rationalisers” were in from the beginning, we definitely did not wait a few weeks to surface so that DS would love us! We gave our PERCEPTION of the episode clearly and, in many cases, profoundly, using psychological explanations, as well as literary and historical examples.

    2. Almost nobody here “rationalizing” is giving House absolution, or, for that matter, in any of the other places where the se7 Finale is being discussed.

    3. “Pretty blue eyes”?? Are we thinking of the same actor? Is it possible to describe HL’s eyes as pretty?
    Apart from their colour, I would hesitate even to describe them as beautiful! What they are is EXPRESSIVE, or to use a poetically cheesy cliché: “mirrors of the soul”. HL, as an actor is famous for building his carrier on his facial expressions and his eyes, in particular, which he uses as an instrument for conveying expressions, from the most clownish to the finest in subtleness.

    4. I thought, that as adults here, we would have been able to distinguish between fictional characters and the actors who play them. Unfortunately, I notice some backlashing against the HL and LE, obviously by those who have strongly identified with either character.
    Let us all agree that these excellent actors, that have been offering us for 7 years interpretations of very high quality, are true professionals that interpret in the best of their ability the scripted material given to them. We should congratulate and thank them, not make them the targets of insults, veiled or not !

  • Elisabeth

    #239 Broken Leg – Thanks – that link raises a lot of important questions.

  • yjust a thought

    @ 242 – Djes
    So what about season 8?
    Just like in previous episodes, promos, we have been misled, I am sure the writer’s have something in mind, maybe they have been hit with a curve because of LE not comming back, but I believe that the role of Cuddy can be replaced by another actress.

  • Djes

    So what about season 8?
    ok House will probably be in jail, he can’t avoid it.
    But I can’t see a whole season with House in jail, so maybe we’ll see 13 who will wait for him (with a diet coke) upon his release from jail.
    Season premiere opening scene : 2 years later…

  • yjust a thought

    So in the end, David Shore & Co. pretend to be victims and make LE the scapegoat for this season. Remember David Shore’s motto “Everybody Lies.”

    We will probably never know “What really happen”, and if 5 – 6 years down the road, we find out, we probably won’t care, we also have moved on. Just remember if “Everybody Lies” is true, so is every coin has at least 2 sides

  • Nada

    I agree that Huddy was dumb from season 6 but it seems that writers don’t know how to write interesting romance, so yes, I hope that in season 8 they’ll stop with Taub (this guy is funnier with the team and House than with his ex wife), let House and Wilson alone, and don’t start something between 13 and Chase.
    They should focus only on the patients (and please give us good storylines with them as in seasons 1 to 4) and House’s issues (bring back his mother!).

  • BrokenLeg

    Having time to surf internet while others can do saturday’s outdoor activities has this: Find a good article, about [H]finale, LE , writing, TPTB strategies, etc.. I do not know if it is a public or private blog. But I think it’s good.

  • nitemar

    It doesnt make any difference to me how many explaining DS and co want to do if Cuddy and company were already gone from the table or not,but editing was pretty bad. About Huddy, “it was doomed”–Taub’s words. The only reason I think they got them together was to break them up–for good. Cuddy’s OCC in season 6 and 7 left a bad taste to all of us Lisa’s fans, so maybe Lisa knew other than the pay cut, that her character was going to be eventually gone in season 8, so to satisfy network mandate. So, DS and co screwed up from the start just to comply with Network wishes. JMHO.

  • Pleased about the finale

    @235 – Frustrated

    “David Shore’s interviews, he was pretty adamant that Huddy was done and there would be no such thing as revisiting it. Why would a showrunner squash all hopes for a big part of the fandom?”
    Easy, imo he wants to gain back all the viewers, me inlcuded, who stopped watching because of the huddy nonsense. Huddy alienated a good part of the viewers, even HL said in an interview that they were aware that half of the fandom loved huddy but also half hated it.
    Ds and the network realized the mistake they did with when they made this silly romance the main focus of the show and they want to make clear they’re not going to do it again.

    Now bring in the season 8, please!

  • Eloise

    Seeing the finale differently does not make one any ‘type’ it is what it is, everybody has their take on it all is valid. Personally I enjoyed it from the start and proud of it!

  • Frustrated

    Hopefully this will be my last post ever because I plan on detoxing from House this summer. But I have to post this. The way the writers ended the House & Cuddy relationship was just too carefully planned. There was no way that House and Cuddy would have been able to exist on the same show after that ending. And since the show is called House MD, of course it means that Cuddy would cease to exist further in the House universe. The ending also made it too easy for the writers to be able to write Cuddy off the show. Also, looking back at David Shore’s interviews, he was pretty adamant that Huddy was done and there would be no such thing as revisiting it. Why would a showrunner squash all hopes for a big part of the fandom? My only answer would be that David Shore had known for a long time that Cuddy would be written out. This was carefully crafted by him and the writers. He and FOX/NBC Universal made sure that whatever they offered to LE in her new contract would be demeaning enough that someone with a strong personality like hers would never re-sign. So in the end, David Shore & Co. pretend to be victims and make LE the scapegoat for this season. Remember David Shore’s motto “Everybody Lies.”

  • Dragging 40

    I think I have to agree with 50+. The idea that House ‘lost it’ is just too easy. House already ‘lost it’ once when he went to the screw factory to get re-threaded at the end of S5. Somebody mentioned in an earlier post that it would have been more interesting, or more true to the character, for House to come up with an ‘intellectual’ response to all of his stressors. Crashing a car into Cuddy’s house was just cheap shock value and taking the easy way out on the part of the writers. Nah, the ‘cheese slid off his cracker’ defense ain’t gonna fly with me, either.

    Well, at least Hugh Laurie got to do a screaming u-ee in his car. That’s always fun for the boys.

  • 60 plus

    I understand that you and probably many others will not “buy” my interpretation of the finale. But then, I was not trying to “sell” anything, just sharing my opinion. You are entitled to share yours, and most certainly you are free to disagree with me. But I am also entitled to share mine–without being judged personally, lumped into a group disparagingly called “rationalizers” and termed a source of amusement.

    And, just for the record…Frankly, I don’t care whether David Shore loves me or not. And the color of Hugh Laurie’s eyes, as great as it is, is incapable of affecting my judgment.

  • 50+

    Sorry, 60 Plus, but I’m not buying it. We’ve all “lost it,” but we still have the capacity to make choices. So did House. He just continues to be a selfish, spoiled child who demands that all indulge him. And he has never really been held accountable for his actions, has he? His crashing into Cuddy’s home with his car is just another example of his total lack of regard for anything or anyone, save himself. He was clearly “in control” and he demonstrated this by telling WIlson to get out of the car. That wasn’t ” uncontrolled rage” on his face, that was a look that said “I’ll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too!” Sociopathic behavior at its finest.

    I find it amusing that, two or three weeks after the finale, the “rationalizers” are finding their way to the surface. I guess the new equation reads as such: Pretty blue eyes = absolution. David Shore would love you. Tsk.

  • 60 plus

    After reading and reflecting on the millions of words that have been written here and in other places, I have finally come to what is my own understanding of the finale. I am basing it only on what I perceive the episode to be–not on anything the writers or Shore or anyone else has said, or the situation with Lisa Edelstein. I honestly can’t remember if anyone has stated something similar elsewhere.

    Many negative comments revolve around the belief that the crash, etc. is not in character for the House that we’ve known for seven seasons. I think that is exactly the point. It is completely out of character. There is nothing about it that remotely resembles the brilliantly rational mind that House sees as his most, if not only, redeeming quality. He literally “loses it”–his worst fear.

    After rationally fending off the pressures from Wilson, Cuddy, etc., he reaches his end point. Without a doubt, the rational “in character” House would never deliberately put Wilson, Cuddy, her guests and Rachel in harm’s way. But seeing what he saw when he walked up to the house took away his last bit of ability to be completely rational. I can’t say things such as “Didn’t he think about…whatever…the people in the house, Rachel, etc.” My belief is that he wasn’t THINKING at all. He was only FEELING–certainly not his strong suit. Again–pardon the repetition–he loses it.

    While I certainly don’t condone what he did, I cannot feel betrayed by him for something that I believe was beyond his ability to control. I can only feel sympathy for a man whose worst fear has finally come to pass. And, yes, initially, the relief he feels immediately afterward as he walks away does feel good. (There’s that word again–feel.) But it most certainly won’t last.

    I don’t know, and frankly don’t care, about whether the beach scene is real or not. I believe the worst is yet to come for House–not legally or professionally or relationship-wise, although there will be those consequences to consider, also. I believe the worst will be when he realizes that he did, for a few devastating minutes, lose the thing he values most–and what happened as a result. And this time, it was not the same as the hallucinations, etc. that drove him to Mayfield. I think he will believe he “betrayed” himself.

    Yes, this was most definitely NOT in character, and for me, that makes all the difference.

    ps…In an effort to be somewhat brief, :), in this posting I have not tried to explore the all-too-real effects of House’s action on Cuddy, Wilson, etc.

  • SciFi Fan

    @Housemaniac #227: I apologize if you felt I was referring to all pain management patients has being “addicts”; I think it is clear that I was not.

    And I am sorry about your condition; spinal stenosis does hurt like hell. I also agree with “Dr.” Visitkarte: back strengthening exercises are important (if possible) or surgery. I know many people are afraid of back surgery, but it has come so far these days that it almost 100% effective. Its not so “hit and miss” like it was 20 years ago. Please consider it, if it is an option for you. My father blew a disc in his back, refused surgery and became a very angry man because of his chronic pain. In fact, my parents divorced because of it. And I can see that you are very frustrated and probably quite angry. Keep going to doctors until you find one that will do for you what needs to be done to mitigate your pain.

    Dr. House took his Vicodin not just to relieve pain, but he used it for shock value: when patients or anyone else annoyed him, when something pissed him off, to outrage Wilson, etc. He wielded Vicodin like a weapon, instead of using it to control physical pain. He’s an addict; you’re a pain patient as long as you don’t resort to popping Percocet as emotional candy.

    Good luck to you.

  • Visitkarte

    @ 227 – housemaniac
    I feel with you. Very important in managing back pain is, other than reliable pain relief, doing a lot of back training in physical therapy. When you get your back muscles strong, the pain of the stenosis will be less hard to take. But you can’t exercise if you are in severe pain… Surgery is only then the must-have answer, if show some paralysis or, worse, bladder of bowel problems.

    That’s why I am so adamant in defending pain patients. I had one patient once, USA citizen, who had severe pain in his leg after a badly managed partial traumatic amputation. He refused taking narcotics for 3 years, went all bitter and grumpy, isolated himself more and more. In the end he gave in, and accepted the narcotics: Too late, he was already chronic pain patient. He did much better than with the non narcotics, started seeing other people and a new education. Other than that, he was hardly ambulatory. In the end he decided to get his foot amputated. After that his mobility improved drastically, but his pain remained (remember, it was already chronic pain, after 7 years of suffering). But he could go significantly back with the dosage and was more than happy with his new walking skills.

    This guy would never return in USA. He feels free in Germany, and I agree with him. No one here pesters him and he works full time, made quite an awesome career in his new country.

    Actually, the idea of House going abroad was quite a good one. Pity they didn’t move him to Australia of England… 😉 Well, fearing deportation to USA might stop him from going there, but girl can dream.

    Yea, I know that wouldn’t be House M.D. anymore, but it seems a fun idea for an FF, don’t you think so?

  • BrokenLeg

    224 @SciFi Fan

    thank you for your best desires to my son. I’ll say him as soon as possible. He is “in deep love” with his career, and gonna be a surgeon as his father.Let him to be “naive”… But following his father counsel, and yours as it looks, has not let away his great hobbies: He still manages to be the goalkeeper of a semi-prof quite good soccer team, is a big fan of FC Barcelona, and a hard alpin skier.
    Thank you a lot. And as old ST:TNG fan:live long and prosper…and.. engage!

  • housemaniac

    SciFan #216: Aaargh! I have been trying to resist contributing to this off-topic thread about pain medicine, but now I can’t. Please spare those of us who are actually in chronic pain and who do not have addictive personalities or biochemistries, as apparently you do. I’ve been taking Percocet on and off for about a year for pain associated with “severe” (so says the MRI report) lumbar spinal stenosis and disk herniation. I am not addicted and, yes, I have gotten this medication from pain management doctors. (I am on my second doctor not because I am “pill-seeking” but because I am “health-seeking” and so I wanted a second opinion.) The first doctor gave me the medication without question but this one is very reluctant and thinks it is a tragedy that I sometimes need the Percocet to function. I am just trying to be a functioning member of society and to avoid back surgery as long as possible. I am in my mid-forties, so rather young for severe stenosis. Also, I have seemingly developed the stenosis within a year as the MRI about 15 months ago showed none of it. The point is I am in lots of PAIN, but not so much that I need the Percocet every day and I am trying other things to get better. It causes me great anxiety every time I run low on narcotic pain medication because of doctors with attitudes like yours. These attitudes also prompt me to want to hoard the narcotics, just like our friend House. Please reconsider painting everyone with the brush of addiction and pill-seeking and consider those of us who actually need the stuff.

  • smk46

    #224 scififan: thanks for that answer, though it seems to invalidate the medicine that gave us amber and huddy sex in the last three eps of season 5 as well as the reason for house going to mayfield. as you (or someone) pointed out earlier, there was no reason for house to deal with his addiction as long as he was functioning successfully as a diagnostician…which he apparently was for several years. inconsistent quality of writing has raised havoc with the show.

  • HLfan

    Just a hunch: It crossed my mind that with Lisa Edelstein suddenly leaving the series (but for possible guest appearances), the writers/producers might decide to take us back in time to before season 1 in the series’ eigth season (Stacy, possibly flashbacks to House’s childhood…) And then the series would end with the day of the car crash and House committing suicide (sniff). Of course, by some creative twist, Chase, 13, Foreman and Taub would have to appear as well, since the actors who play them have contracts, so let’s see…

  • SciFi Fan

    @smk46 #217: Anything is possible, I guess. However, I have never, ever seen a patient have a psychotic break or hallucinate (another badly written episode) while on opiates alone. You can hallucinate on benzos, SSRI’s and hallucinogenics, but on Vicodin? Again, I’ve never seen it, but I suppose anything is possible. Opiates block pain receptors primarily (nerves), the mechanism of action is not really within the brain. A “psychotic break” or an event of irrational and even violent behavior can occur with a patient who is detoxing and is jonesing for drugs, but that’s mostly voluntary behavior. But hallucinations? Doubt it, but there are exceptions…

    @Broken Leg #218: Your son sounds like a smart guy. I don’t watch for the medicine myself, unless I’m in the mood for Sci Fi :). I watch because Hugh Laurie is a slamming hottie and sometimes you can see him in various stages of undress. My husband, a pharmacist, stopped watching when the writers started over-dosing on the use of Methotrexate; they were using it to treat any and all conditions from amyloidosis to zits, and he got tired of asking, “Who writes this sh*t?” and not getting an answer. Tell your son that I wish him the best of luck with his career. Tell him also that he needs to get a hobby so that treating ungrateful, rude, disrespectful and needy patients day in and day out won’t steal his soul.

    @Visitkarte #219: You need to check out another site called Polite Dissent. It is run by an American physician who calls himself Dr. Scott. Dr. Scott posts weekly critiques of the medicine practiced on House and often cites references from medical journals or weblinks. I think you’d find it very interesting and you comments would very much be welcome and appreciated. Sometimes we get into discussions about the “soap opera,” but its mostly about the medicine.

    @merkof #220: Nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet, so say the experts. I knew I had to quit, but, like you, whenever I’d think about it, I’d either smoke a whole lot more or stick something else in my mouth, like a Snicker’s bar. Chest pain was the trigger for me. Well, that and a cardiac catheterization with angioplasty and a stent placed in my left descending coronary artery. A lot of interesting things go through your mind while you’re laying there on the table while your cardiologist floats a cath from your femoral artery to your heart. I’m a smart ass by nature (big surprise, huh?), but I didn’t make a whole lot of wisecracks during that procedure, and I managed to fight the anesthesia and stay awake through the whole thing. What a treat.

    I quit smoking cigarettes cold turkey; my last one was the night before my cardiac cath. However, I do use the “e-cigarette.” It doesn’t taste as good as a real cigarette, but it does satisfy my oral fixation and need for nicotine. If you google “e-cigarette,” you’ll find all kinds of information. It really does work. Smoke the last “real” cigarette in your pack and make your next smoke the e-cigarette. Your body will adjust to it in less than a day. Its like changing brands of cigarettes; you get used to the taste very quickly and its just as satisfying. With the e-cigarette, you get the nicotine, but none of the carcinogenic properties that are found in cigarette smoke. And so far (6 months) its kept me off the real thing without any cravings. Good luck.

  • BrokenLeg

    221 @ merkof

    I was hooked too by Greg House’s own journey to his personal Ithaka, absolutely fascinated by HL devishly good acting. I remembered him mostly as a part of “Fry & Laurie”, “Wooster & Jeewes” and other comedy acting, so it was a big and great surprise to find him in a role much more dramatic than even his previous role of “Peter’s friends” was.

    222 @cutopia

    Well,if everybody who need venting feelings choose the impulsive and destructive [H] last episode way, it guarantees architects work, at least where “balloon frame” buildings are used……

  • cutopia

    This episode seemed consistent enough, although when I saw the beach scene I thought maybe the series had ended. House could easily spend the rest of his life lounging on a beach in another country after having burned all his bridges in the USA.

    Anyway, I did appreciate the symbolism of the hairbrush and interpreted House’s behavior as him snapping under the emotional strain.
    He first had a mini-snap at Cuddy, when he told her he felt hurt. So I think his facade was eroding quite a bit already.
    Then, the way things turned out for his patient, with whom he had a great deal in common, also could have served to set him up for a big breakdown.
    The ramming of Cuddy’s house did not seem intentionally murderous to me, but certainly a very impulsive and destructive way of venting his feelings.

  • merkof

    • 219 – Visitkarte
    ……and one day I didn’t need even that. BTW……
    Actually BTW bore me stiff. What hooked me was the episode with the sick newborns SE1. It is the dilemmas and the interaction between the characters that interest me. But I mostly watch because I find the personality of House and his journey through pain fascinating. That is why I find the last act – car crash – plausible, if heinous, and very exciting. I have been waiting through a few seasons to see when he would crack.
    It goes without saying that without HL, House would not have such an electrifying aura and the show would not have caught our hearts. I actually started watching because of HL whom I remember and appreciated a lot as Wooster ( I live in an ex-british colony ) and I was curious to see how he ended up with 2 Golden Globes for Drama! One can imagine my sense of wonderment.

  • merkof

    • 216 – SciFi Fan
    Thanks for explaining!
    How did you manage to quit smoking?
    Whenever I reduce smoking, I start eating binges and then I end up with both addictions.
    I let myself become addicted to House almost on purpose to cut down on food (success!) but smoking ..ugh…still reigns!

  • Visitkarte

    I loved the puzzles and they still inspire me to look up the diseases, some of them extremely rare. But the medicine on House was always flawed, because reality doesn’t make for good TV.

    So I still look up the diagnosis mentioned and try to keep something useful out of it, but that’s not the reason for watching House. They were the reason for re-watching the first few episodes, until Detox… And then I got hooked, the mysteries were only an excuse, and one day I didn’t need even that. BTW, practicing English is still a valuable excuse… 😉

    They always used wrong technique; ridiculously big needles (remember the rabies shot Foreman got? BTW, we don’t use the abdominal muscles anymore).

    The mistake with Methadone was embarrassing, but you can’t say he wanted the high. It’s way simpler than that, the TPTB needed him to be back on Vicodin. So they choose a ridiculous way out.

  • BrokenLeg

    216 @SciFi Fan

    Very interesting post for non physician ones. And about House using Methadone, It can be seen on final credits THREE “M.D” consultant ones.What are they doing? My son, a fresh new MD himself, is right abandoning once loved [H] because the lack of credibility of late medical cases or the way they are resolved lately.
    What do you as a physician think?

  • smk46

    very interesting thread. thank you for the info, visitkarte and scififan. just one question as it pertains to the season finale: is it possible for the vicodin that house took in such massive quantities to cause a psychotic event wherein he really didn’t understand the potential effects of his actions?

  • SciFi Fan

    @Visitkarte #212: Thanks for your post. However, please don’t lump all physicians and dentists into the “Enabling Column.” Most of us are very careful what we prescribe and to whom, and for what length of time. Most of our hospitals have pain protocols we follow for post-surgical pain management, along with Ethics Committees to whom we have to report if we break protocol.

    We also use a device that we call a PCA, or Patient Controlled Anesthesia, usually morphine, which is administered intravenously. Interestingly, in most cases, patients seem to use less pain medication in these circumstances – reverse psychology, perhaps. When the patient is released from the hospital (hopefully within a few days after surgery), he or she is given a script for an oral pain med, 20 or 30 tabs only, with no refills.

    On the other side of the coin, we have a new and burgeoning specialty here in the states: the “Pain Management Physician.” Now I have nothing against this specialty per se, there are a great number of people out there with legitimate chronic pain. However, many of these physicians feel that everyone who walks into their office should be given a prescription for a narcotic. And it usually doesn’t stop there. Many patients are given a Schedule II narcotic (such as Oxycontin) to take off label at every 4 to 6 hours (instead of every 12 as is recommended), a Schedule III narcotic for “break-through pain as needed,” a benzo, such as Valium – a Schedule IV narcotic – as a muscle relaxant, also taken every 4 to 6 hours, and, finally, an SSRI because it has been found that SSRI’s kick up the efficacy of the opiate. It also kicks up the addictive factor. Many of these patients also take Methadone 10mg three or four times per day as an additional pain-relieving agent (which is NOT its intended use). These people also use copious amounts of stool softeners and laxatives.

    Interestingly, when they aired the episode where House was using Methadone, I thought, “At last. This is the perfect solution for his pain management.” In fact, his character even said it: “Pain relief without the high.” He was happy, pain-free and walking without his cane. Then the writers went off into a ridiculous scenario where House goes into respiratory arrest due to the medication. I have never seen 40mg of long-acting Methadone cause respiratory arrest, especially in a patient who, up to that point, was very likely downing 80-100mg of hydrocodone every 24 hours. What really sewed it up for me was the end where he chose not to continue using the Methadone because he felt it made him a bad doctor. Bullsh*t; he wanted the high. Bad medicine; bad choices.

    Which brings me back to our “Pain Management” phsycians. Not all of them are this irresponsible. Many take the time to thoroughly assess their patients and prescribe the appropriate meds (narcotic or NSAID) in the proper doses. Those few that over-prescribe, and prescribe off-label, are usually in it for the money. They usually only allow a two-week supply, then the patient has to return to see the doctor (at $100+ per visit) for another written prescription. These doctors will often see more than 50 patients a day; therefore, their practices are quite lucrative. Nice work if you can get it, and if you can sleep at night. But it certainly adds to our nation-wide drug problem.

    @merkof #213: The term “Class I, II, etc.” is European, I believe. In the States, we refer to it was “Schedule I, II, etc.” We will use the abbreviations of CI, CII, etc.; however, the “C” stands for “Controlled,” as is “controlled substance.”

    Schedule I narcotics include heroin, cocaine and – at one time – marajuana. No physician or pharmacy outside of a (usually government-controlled) research facility has Schedule I writing or dispensing privileges. (Thank God, or we’d have an even worse drug problem than we already do.) I’m not sure what type of licensing is involved in “medical marajuana,” or the criteria required for prescribing and selling it. I don’t wanna know.

    Schedule II narcotics include: Dilaudid, Oxycontin, Morphine, Demerol and Percodan. They are very strong, very addicting and should only be taken for short periods of time, except for patients who are terminal.

    Schedule III narcotics include hydrocodone and codeine.

    Schedule IV include Darvocet (which has been pulled from the market in the U.S.) and Stadol, Valium and other benzos, and tranquilizers, such as Ambien.

    Schedule V drugs have pretty much been phased out.

    I, too, have an “addictive personality.” I used to smoke and I get “addicted” to certain foods quite easily. To that end, I, and people like me, need to be very careful when prescribed narcotics, especially pain meds. “Cherry highs.”

  • BrokenLeg

    211 @ SciFi Fan
    212 @ Visitkarte
    I do not sleep while reading . Quite interesting a very [H] related new and refreshing theme!!!
    PS: SciFi Fan, yes I unfortunatelly crashed slidindg with my Ducati Monster to a street sidewalk edge.Oil on the pav!

  • Oversimplified

    @195 The Other Barnett
    I do understand where you’re coming from, but to me a violent, reckless House who has little or no regard for life just doesn’t compute. This is someone who takes massive risks to preserve it, and often can’t understand why his patients would choose to die rather than live. The Vicodin argument doesn’t quite ring true either. He’s in enough of his right mind to solve the puzzles his patient sets him, and yet the real consequences of driving his car through Cuddy’s house, other than setting him free, don’t? I don’t know. Whether we can compare him to Holmes or not, House is still meant to be a genius and there were little signs of intelligence in that act. Because we know he’ll be back at PPTH next season he’s actually achieved nothing, other than making himself feel better for a short period of time. Sure everything that’s happened to him should have changed him, but it’s like he’s a different person and that’s what ‘feels’ wrong about this recent violent string to his bow.

  • merkof

    212 – Visitkarte


    The most interesting post since before the fight about who is the biggest sinner HL or LE.

    I would like to know more as I am also rather addictive.

    What is class I, class II etc?

  • Visitkarte

    @SciFi Fan 211

    OK, I give up and try my best.

    We do follow the WHO scheme with first line pain relieve with NSAIDS, second like lower potent opioids and third line high potent opioids. Problem in this is, it doesn’t work for all patients. Why?

    1. Patients with severe pain, like post major surgery, of the first hours after surgery at all, require fast and effective pain relief. They get some morphine without us trying to give them some inappropriate, too week drug. On the other side, a lot of people in Europe get “only” non opioid meds, the younger they are, the lesser the chance is that they get any addictive substance, like after broken limbs, after plastic or dental surgery, may it hurt quite a bit. But because there is slim to none chance for this pain to become conical, patients get non opiates and are quite happy about that. Most of my patients are quite scared of addictive substances and try to avoid them as much as they can. I know so many patients who are even scared of getting dependant on non opiates, and they are not completely wrong. You can do a number on your body with this class of meds, too.

    It’s a completely different thing when we deal with patients for example like House, with a big tissue damage and high risk for developing phantom pain and chronic pain problem. They need the best pain management they can possibly get without being completely knocked out. They get often PDA for the first days to manage the local pain and get them on their feet ASAP. Afterwards they get as much pain meds as necessary to make them move almost pain free, with just the pain from overtaxing the limb left (they need to feel and stop themselves from hurting themselves by doing too much too soon. Most of times you can do that without opiates, depending on the damage done and the patient’s sensitivity and comorbidity. We don’t judge. The patient leads the way, the doctor supports. After that, we start to go back on the dosage while the patient is in rehab, and stop the opioids 3-4 weeks post op altogether, leaving only non opioids there. There are only a few patients afterwards who still need opioids, mostly with really severe pain problem. I have no scruples giving someone 10-20 mg Oxycodon or Oxycontin daily, it can be much better than giving them 2’400 mg Ibuprofen and 2’000 mg Acetaminophen or maybe even more as a long term solution. I love working with Novalgin, it’s a non opioid with very good properties and helps quite a lot without making people hazy, You can combine it with Ibuprophen-like drugs (NSAIDs), but American are quite scared of it because of some seldom complications I’ve never seen happening (changes in the blood counts).

    I never give fast acting opioid to a long term pain patient. If I need opioids, I give long term acting drugs. I see how the patient reacts and I stop immediately if I see they are developing tolerance very fast, than I try something else.

    People who take antipsychotic meds, for example, can’t get some Tramadol or Codeine, because these are prodrugs and need to be turned into the pain relieving drug in the liver, and the other meds stop the liver from doing that. It’s just one example, there are other reasons why not “Class III” (they are taxing on the liver, just one reason more). Other people react poorly to Class III narcotics, because their body processes this needed enzyme poorly or whatever other reason, like fast building tolerance to the drug, but they need very much lower equivalent strength of Class II narcotic. So, they are often the better, lower strength liver protecting choice.

    House is a typical example for ill managed pain patient, from the very start. His doctors dismissed his symptoms first because they were scared of drug seeking behavior. Rule Nr. 1: Never dismiss acute pain in a patient you’ve never seen before. Actually, never dismiss acute pain at all. Acute pain is a sign of danger. The more precise the area, the more you need to look carefully.

    Medically speaking, House is the perfect example of a pseudo addiction in an appalling managed patient. It doesn’t help that he is also someone prone to addiction (smoking, gameboy, gambling, high risk alcohol habits, high risk live style in general). These are facts we also try to explore before we start our patients on drugs. We don’t just go around and dole Vicodin (or like American dentists seem to do, for example. The strongest med a dentist is going to give to you here is Mephenamine Acid (Switzerland) of Ibuprofen 600 or 800 mg (Germany).

    Was that enough medical details? If you are not asleep now, I’ve done my job well enough.

  • SciFi Fan

    @Visikarte: Fair enough, but I think our discussion (yours and mine, that is) is quite relevant to House, M.D. If the PTB would read our posts, they might not write the medicine so abysmally. Instead, they rely on Wikipedia and Fortune Cookies for their information.

    I provoke you because what you write is interesting to me. I assume you live in either Germany or Switzerland, and I am curious about your medical standards and practices. And you never know what might interest our fellow bloggers, and you never know what we all might learn from you. I would rather spend my time on this web site learning something new about an individual due to his or her interest in this show, rather than read endless emotional rants about David Shore’s bad judgement. After two weeks and over 200 posts, I thought a different topic of conversation might be refreshing. However, I do not believe that HHoW is an appropriate forum and I have no idea what a PM is, being a computer-tard.

    Nonetheless, I will respect your wishes. I enjoyed jousting with you. Live long and prosper.

  • Visitkarte

    @SciFi Fan

    I’d love to stop it here. I am a physician and I work in a hospital, so I can prescribe any med my patients need there, sometimes I need my boss to sign if I prescribe them for home use, but that’s another piece of cake. I don’t make my decisions different, and we do prescribe meds as patients need them.

    Different classes of narcotic mean different laws. Some patients can never use Class III narcotics because of another meds they are taking. And it’s the amount of drug and not the sole quality that tends to kill. By NSAIDS it’s the class killing. Eating two pounds of salt might kill you, too. For sure.

    The other questions are purely med jargon and it’d bore people to death if discussed here. Please use a PM at HHoW if you want to discuss them more.

    Can we, please, go back to House M.D.?

  • SciFi Fan

    @Broken Leg #208: You wrecked your knee slide-crashing a motorcycle? WICKED AWESOME!! And… ouch!!

    @Visitkarte #204: What does that mean, “Class is somehow outdated concept”? Whether you are an American physician or not, ALL doctors view opiates as a specific “class” of drugs which, in the USA, are “Schedule I, II, III, IV and V.” You say you are a physician (clearly not American), yet you make no mention of the INCB (or its modern day equivalent) and use the phrase “Class is somehow outdated concept.” The INCB started regulating narcotics in Europe and other parts of the world since the days when you could buy heroin through the Sears Catalogue.

    Additionally, it is pretty clear that your “Naloxon” is not the same as our “Naloxone,” as the latter is used purely as a narcotic agonist; the pharmacodynamics do not indicate any other use other than as an m-opioid receptor antagonist. I cannot find the drug “Naloxon” anywhere on the internet or in my Dispensary.

    I agree that NSAID’s can cause GI problems (reflux, bleeding, etc.); however, I have also seen one dose of a strong opiate compound cause CNS depression, respiratory arrest and death, and right quickly.

    And they are the #1 abused “recreational” drug in the United States, with cocaine in its various forms being #2. The term “recreational” has nothing to do with decreased libido, bowel motility or urinary retention (they are only side-effects of opioid use); it means that a drug, whether it is classified as “pharmaceutical” or otherwise, is being taken for the sole purpose of its mood-altering and physiologic effects, and not for pain.

    Are you certain you are a physician, or perhaps just have some experience in the medical field? Perhaps it is the language barrier, but your post suggests otherwise.

    @Opioid #207 (Nice sobriquet): Thanks for the link; its been a while since I researched the issue. Doesn’t give one much hope for the future of our country, does it?

  • BrokenLeg

    201 @ SciFi Fan
    I never mentioned, nor in this discussion, nor in previous ( LE departure, After Hours, etc..)ones the meds I was taken, and less that I take Vicodin. My posts are all there. You can verify .
    I’ve only mentioned, joking with @2Lightworker and with @RedTulip_Ana, about the way I get injured, because one of them thought my nickname was related to Greg House, not to my actual condition. I mentioned only two common things with House character: I drive big motorcycles (a slide crash is the cause of my situation)…and now I limp until be fully recovered.
    Maybe I do not understand as well as deserved your joke. Probably due to language problems. Explanation accepted. Thank you and thank you @129 too. I’m now back on my two feet,….. but limping.

  • Opioid

    @Visitkarte and @SciFi Fan

    Interesting article for you both to read if you wish

    “The United States makes up only 4.6 percent of the world’s population, but consumes 80 percent of its opioids — and 99 percent of the world’s hydrocodone, the opiate that is in Vicodin.”

  • BrokenLeg

    202 @Visitkarte

    My non chronic circumstantial pain, produced by a knee reconstruction surgery, that includes rebuilding knee cap, its tendon and a re-insertion of the quadriceps ( I hope you as a doctor you can understand my non medical bad translation) has not been relieved with opiates as far I know. Only the first days at the hospital was treated with Adolonta (Tramadol , I think ). After that, Nolotil (magnesic Metamizol I think) and Ibuprofen. Lately I only need Ibuprofen and from time to time a dose of Paracetamol 500 mg as a “rescue” after rehabilitation seasons. Probably, as my physiotherapist say, I’m a person with a high pain threshold due to my sport back up, who knows.

    Other severe pains (some cancer ones, terminal sick people, other surgeries, etc..) are treated here with opiates different from Vicodin and other decent drugs. Not needed in my case. The comment on my post was precisely about my presumed “haze” or stoned behavior suggested by @127 .

    As you say, opiates make patients in pain neutral, not stoned. That is important to be known by [H] viewers, that may not understand Vicodin-pain terms accurately.

    Thanks for your professional comment. But better no comment more about it, someone can be bored.

  • Visitkarte

    Sorry, editing mistake before. Forget the last two breaks.

  • Visitkarte

    @203 SciFi Fan
    Class is somehow outdated concept. Low level of Class II opiates can be much better for a patient than any Class IIII opiate. I know what I am talking about, I am a physician. I don’t dole out opiates easily, but I don’t have any scruples to use them if they are needed.

    Naloxon taken orally helps against the bowel side effects and never goes in the blood stream. Ibuprofen can kill you in a week if you are out of luck by causing bleeding ulcers. I’ve seen liver failure after using 4gr of Acetaminophen daily only two weeks long. If the patients follows the opiate schedule, it’s quite a save drug class.

    Yes, people are slower in the beginning, slightly hazed and nauseous. I seldom see them “high”, because I always start them on low level. Start slowly, save the dosage as long as it goes. Buprenorfin patch is very common in Germany and Switzerland, and it works well while it takes long to build up resistance, so yes, it’s OK. If you want to discuss this longer, help yourself, but try to reach me with a PM, for example on HHoW.

    I just wanted to state that opiates are valid meds and nothing “recreational”. Do you think it might be fun to get less and less interested in sex, having troubles with bowel movements and urine retention, problems with concentration, nausea etc? If someone has severe pain like evil bad case of multiple arthritic limbs, severe tissue and nerve damage like amputation (partial or total), MS, Cancer etc… They are happy to feel less pain then they do, they don’t try to get high!

    Naloxon taken oraly helps against the bowel side effects and never goes in the blood streem. Ibuprofen can kill you in a week if you are out of luck by caucing a bleeding ulcus. I’ve seen liver failure after using 4gr of Acetaminophen dayly only two weeks long. If the patients follows the opiat shedule, it’s quite a save drug class.

    Yes, people are slower in the begining, slightly hazed and nauseous. I seldom see them “high”, because I always start them on low level. Start slowly, save the dosage as long as it goes. Buprenorfin patch is very comon in Germany and Switzerland, and it works well while it takes long to build up resistance, so yes, it’s OK. If you want to duscuss this longer, help yourself, but try to reach me with a PM, for example on HHoW.

  • Thank you Byzantine. The one thing this column (and its comments threads) have never been is place for malicious rumor and gossip. There are plenty of places around the net to do that. And although I can’t stop you from doing it (BC does not censor such comments, as nasty as they can get), I can ask my very loyal readers not to spread it. You have no idea who’s doing what to whom and who isn’t. Please, please, please bring this conversation back to the intelligent level it had been at the beginning of the thread.

    Disagree. Debate, just understand that everyone has an opinion. Don’t ridicule each other. Whatever side of the fence you sit, remember it is your opinion. Not everyone agrees with you (and that goes for me as well). Personal attacks don’t do anything and drive people away.

    #189–yet you’re here.

    I’ve been a way a couple days and I am grieved to come back to this.

  • bigHousefan

    Byzantine 182

    I always enjoy reading your comments. Thanks very much for your last one!

    I’ll be looking for you here next season!

  • SciFi Fan

    @Broken Leg #200: YOU were the one who initially mentioned that you were laid up with a broken leg and taking pain meds, specifically Vicoden, if I remember correctly. I don’t remember if it was earlier in this discussion or the previous one. However, it was my intent (and I think that of #129) to cheer you up. I apologize if I underestimated your sense of humor. I know what a pisser it can be when you’re laid up with an injury.

    As a health care provider myself, there are “tells” when an individual is under the influence of opiates: pinpoint pupils, slightly slurred speech, slowed reactions, mild ataxia, repeating themselves… This pretty much applies to everyone who uses narcotics in any form. It may not be discernible to the lay public; however, most most practitioners are quickly read in on a patient’s sobriety.

    And let’s face it: the first few months of opiate use result in that lovely “cherry high;” therefore, the use of the term “haze” is not too far off the mark.

    @Visitkarte: In defense of the Good Ol’ USA: per capita, recreational drug use is no higher than that of Europe. And, for the record, Europeans go through sh*tloads of opiates; in fact, many can be obtained without a prescription in some European countries. And let’s not forget that much-sought-after “cherry high.”

    Finally, “oxycodone” (Targin) is considered a Schedule II narcotic, the same class as morphine, Demerol, Percodan, Oxycontin and Methadone (the PERFECT solution for Dr. House’s pain management, by the way; the writers really screwed the pooch on that one). Hydrocodone (Vicodin) is a Schedule III, which means the opiate (pain-relieving) effect is not as strong as the Schedule II class. Buprenofphine is used to treat addiction, and naloxone (Narcan) is a narcotic agonist, meaning it counters the effects of opiates.

    It takes months to years of high dose acetaminophen or non-steroidal anti-inflammatory agent use to burn out your liver or kidneys, unless you take about 100 at a time, then you can accomplish that in an afternoon. You can, however, kill yourself in days to weeks with opiates, especially if you keep chasing that “cherry high.” And opiates will also do a cha-cha on your liver with long-term use. Ask David Crosby or even (the late) John Phillips.

  • Visitkarte

    No Vicodin here (but yes, we do have Hydrocodon. Solo.) We give them decent drugs like Buprenorfin patch, Targin (Oxycodon with Naloxon), sometimes “only” Tramadol etc… You can end up killing a person much faster with Acetaminophen (Paracetamol) and Ibuprofen than kill them with Oxycodon in the usual dose.

    My patients with severe pain are NOT stoned. They are in pain and opiates make them neutral, not stoned.

  • Visitkarte

    @BrokenLeg 200

    I don’t know about your country, but here in Europe we use opiate pain relieve every day for severe pain just like in USA. We just don’t like killing out patients to stop them from taking too much.

  • BrokenLeg

    @120,@127,@129 and some other

    Sorry if my previous comments bored or hurt your or anyone feelings. Were polite enough and intended only about [H] producers recent attitude and the poor quality of the writing/editing.

    Said that, and being myself one that had felt personally attacked or ridiculed here, by @120 and others, it doesn’t seem strange to me the present tone of the discussion on this blog, that has led mostly about stupid gossips and private actors and actresses life, initiated by @129. Sad. Very sad. And some of those posts hinted if I was Vicodin stoned………

    I thought personal attacks were not allowed here, but how can be defined call LE a whore?

    P.S: @127, note that hydrocodone use is almost totally a US practice. Outside there, the hardest pain can be perfectly relieved with adequate Ibuprofen & paracetamol dosage. No one of them “stone” anyone. So there was no possible “haze”, my friend

  • Eloise

    Everybody should calm down and try to respect each other this is for commenting on the finale and the article Barbara wrote, there is no need to attack any of us or the actors.

  • 2Lightworker

    Yes! This discussion seems to have wandered from the subject of the finale to personal comments about the actors’ character and behavior. Perhaps because of frustration, this mirrors how we viewers have dealt with our response to this season’s representation of House’s alienated and alienating journey as he traversed his own version of Dante’s 9 circles of hell, with the hope of coming out, like Dante and Virgil, into the beauty of the morning sky. IMHO, these hurtful slings feel harsh and irrelevant. What is the point? Like House’s delving into colleagues’ personal lives and revealing what he discovers publicly? Is there some hidden desire to be helpful, as House sometimes demonstrates? But this is RL and the actors are human beings, not imagined people in the story. Not everyone in a media environment goes along with its culture, and the line between fact and spin is not only faint but often drawn in invisible ink. Live long enough and not so many surprises, but what can come is awareness that suspicion can be an obstacle to entering fully into the creative space of story and performance.
    I was drawn to this site because of the civility of tone in lively discussion, and that seems to be altered.

    Enjoyed your comments on the concert on HHOW.
    “Let them talk” – 🙂

  • The Other Barnett

    Oversimplified (180) and Cardiac (181):

    Wanting House to be more Holmes-ian is a nice thing to want. But time has changed him (no matter what Shore and others may say). He has been shot, he has seen his whole team leave him, he has had a team-member commit suicide, he has had a close friend lose a lover to death (and it was his fault, in his mind), he has had a nervous breakdown, he has rehabbed from vicodin, he has experienced pure-unmitigated romantic love with a close friend, he has lost that love after trying to twist himself in every possible way to accomodate her, and he has relapsed to vicodin. How does he not act differently? How does he not put aside the chess-like disembowlement through words and clever (yet restrained) actions to just explode?

    Verbal abuse, Logic-bombs, Practical Jokes, and Clever acts of undermining people are never fully satisfying to the one enacting them if the pain handed out is not equal to the pain inside. The car-torpedo action is not one to be applauded, but it is a vicodin-driven actionthat could be understood after years and years of harming himself as much as he harms others.

    We will have to agree to disagree, but I still feel it is important to see House as a result of his years (like the writers mentioned) as opposed to a character within a vacuum.

  • The Other Barnett


    Maybe I should give Laurie a chance in the musical arena…its just that I saw him on the Graham Norton show on BBC America and , I was almost embarrased for him.

  • Elisabeth

    Count me among the fans who didn’t much like the ending to season 7. Like a lot of you, I found it out of character for House to resort to violence – at least violence against others (he’s committed violence against himself over and over again).

    I believe that David Shore and the writers wanted a big, whiz-bang ending to the season and shoe-horned this scene into the episode without thinking it through very clearly or thoroughly. Now they are back-pedaling to tell us that it makes perfect sense to them that House would make such a gesture.

    I liked the way that the crash scene was shot, but the follow up scenes don’t make any sense to me at all. Okay, so House crashed the car into the dining room and handed Cuddy the brush. All four adults in the house were certainly stunned, but unhurt. The front dining room wall and window are damaged, but the house is not in danger of falling down. Outside, Wilson jumped out of the way of the car and hurt his wrist or arm in the process. He is injured, but his life is not in danger.

    Now House walks away from the scene… and it’s daylight, by the way. I would expect that somebody called the police and they would respond promptly. I would expect a tow truck would be called to tow House’s car to a police impoundment lot. I would expect that someone would drive Wilson to the hospital to get his arm checked out. I would expect the police to interview Cuddy and the other adults present.

    Here’s what I would NOT expect – Cuddy huddled under a blanket, outside, hours later, in the dark. Why would they not interview her sitting calmly in her kitchen or living room? I would not expect fire trucks or ambulances with flashing lights, again in the dark. All of this is just part of the flash-bang season ending scene that someone thought would be cool.

    They did a GREAT job with the season ender last year – the crane collapse in Trenton. And I think they wanted to create some sort of tense, emergency scene this year too, but given the circumstances, it just didn’t work for me.

    One of the writers or producers (perhaps Katie Jacobs?) commented that with the reduced budget for season 8, they were going to have to run a tighter operation. In my view, it’s too bad that tightening didn’t start to happen already by eliminating the entire crash scene. A scene where House injures himself, but doesn’t appear as a homicidal maniac, would have been a better choice.

  • ann uk

    Hugh singing the blues- brilliant, and most of the reviews by expert critics say so.

    Hugh and L.E.- if it were true she should keep her mouth shut and if not true she’s a trouble-making liar. In any case this
    sort of vulgar gossip should have no place on this blog.

  • ruthinor

    Viskarte: About HL’s music: I DID say IMO. I didn’t say everyone had to agree with me. Furthermore, blues are not my interest where music is concerned. He can play musical instruments for me and I’d enjoy it. His singing..not much. But to each his own.

    #185 Carperbagger: I have no doubt that it happens all the time. No cyberspank! But them that talk about it rarely do it! My guess is that Dick and Mary never said much, assuming that the story is true.

  • Visitkarte

    About Hugh and his music:

    I showed the record to people who never watched House and knew less than little about blues, and they LOVED it.

    I myself was very skeptical at first, having heard his parodies and his playing skills (or the part of them he chose to show) on House and his other screen or TV work… No matter how much I admired him as an actor, I expected him to fail. And, BTW: Blues? Seriously?

    What I heard by the fist demos left me with my mouth open: Is THIS really him? Can he really do this so well?

    Then I bought the tickets for his very first show (my partner in crime was one of these persons who never knew him before, knew him more for his album than anything else). I went to Hamburg with quite high expectations, and I hated the feeling that there might be no direction to go from there but disappointment.

    What I heard live was a musician, modest, funny, and breathtaking good. Great live performance, and “The Battle of Jericho” was a performance I’d only compare to one piece of Pogorelic playing Chopin back there in the 80es I heard and saw live. I’ve heard other great musicians live, and seldom anyone touched me so deep with the music. I could easily forget that this was the actor playing House (Clean shaven, balding and honest man around my age singing music he loved and feels, and sharing his feelings with us and his fine musicians, fine and astoundingly good themselves).

    I don’t think anyone must love his music, any song might speak to you or not do anything for you at all (I do have other House fanatic friends who don’t really care for his album). But you can’t claim ‘the wisdom’ one way or another for yourself. I liked it a lot, he made me interested in Lead Belly, strangely also Tom Waits, he reminded me of my love for Luis Armstrong and Ray Charles, and some songs I think he did better than the people I named, some of them are still best in the original version… Anyway, I don’t think there is anybody who would like to say: It’s only selling because of his name. I don’t think so. Why would anybody buy a download just for the name? You pay the music, and you don’t even get a cute picture for your money. So it must be the music.

    Nasty rumors about private lives: no. Just no. That’s bad taste and extremely hurtful

  • yjust a thought

    I just want to add one more thing, I watched all previous seasons without reading any blogs, and I will do the same for next season. I will catch up at half time, and again after the season finale.
    I just think that reading the blogs, looking for spoilers, seeing previews, promos, pictures, sneak peaks, etc ruins the episodes for me.

  • yjust a thought

    @179 – ruthinor
    As for Hugh Laurie’s music: IMO, he’s a talented instrumental musician, not a great, or even good singer. Were it not for “House”, his album would probably be an afterthought today. HL’s portrayal of House is magnificent, but nothing in his previous career comes even close (drama-wise). It will be interesting to see if any of his new movies reach anywhere near the success of House.
    I agree with your statement above, just because someone wins an oscar in a movie, it does not guarantee a success in the next movie. Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts… how many good – great movies do they really have.
    Because like HL said in an acceptance speech, …it is a matter if you get the opportunity to do great work …. and [H]ouse had the whole package, script, writing, story, etc. Most likely none of the actors on their own will shine as bright in other proyects, because seldom comes along a really good script. How many good movies has come out in the last 5 years? LE came out for 3 seconds in a dif show and I didn’t see anything special, same with Stela Wards and some kind of crime series.
    As far as LE, HL and their personal life concerns, it is that, their personal life, I did read somewhere that HL wife alternates to weeks in UK, 2 weeks in the States.
    As far as [H]ouse is concerned I am hoping for a great season, I do feel like season 7 was very different from the start, specially since the Master ark, she was just too smart from the very beginning, and in her farewell episode, for once, she was not the know it all, and they put her in her place more than once, and that felt weird too me. For 16? episodes, she could do no wrong. But like I mentioned before, I watch [H]ouse for his interactions with everybody, that is what I care about, the rest is just the prize I have to pay to get to watch the interaccions.

  • vera wright

    If you watch carefully H limps painfully up some steps to gaze into a room with white orchids and a long modernistic painting. The people in the room are exiting stage left.H then drives up a driveway into a room with red orchids a red standard lamp and a painting of trees. This room is shown clearly to be well to the left of the house. Can his motive not be jealousy or anger,rather a desire to relieve C of the need, as he sees it, to lie to him to protect him and by crashing her “house” making it possible for her to move on without feeling guilty.

  • smk46

    #180 oversimplified: i’m with you.

  • CarpetBagger

    Ruthinor#179: Actually, LE talks (or talked) about sex with Hugh Laurie a lot, not just about sex in general, and not only publicly. And, for the record, a roll in the hay with the man would cost her exactly nothing. In fact, it might kick up her Hollywood Street Creds a few notches to bag the Great Mr. Laurie. There’s an acronym that applies to the television and movie industry: DCOL, or “Doesn’t Count On Location.” You can cling to your naivete all you want; the real world will still be out there when you’re ready for it.

    And before you set your jaw and prepare to cyber-spank me, I’ve worked in the industry my entire adult life (although not on “House”), so I do have some insight and personal experience as to what really goes on in this business. For that reason, I totally believe the Dick and Mary anecdote, and have my suspicions about Hugh and Lisa. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

  • Visitkarte


    When did I join in calling anyone names? I can’t write about everything, I only responded to a try of killing the reputation of HL. It doesn’t mean I need to try saving the whole world.

  • Abigail44

    Thanks for this blog Barbara.

    I have only just watched this episode and my first thoughts are wow!

    I had predicted a scenario of House eventually burning bridges with those closest to him after the break up because he had become too exposed emotionally and the episodes after proved he didn’t want Wilson interfering with his emotions and wanted to punish Cuddy with his outrageous behavior but he got no solace or answers from anything he tried to do and so his emotions became more and more repressed.

    This episode was emotionally driven from the start and House was uncomfortable in being poked and prodded by Cuddy by Wilson and by his team. With the patient he thought he had found a kindred spirit in that she chose her brain over emotions and here revealed that he truly had gone back to his old mantra of pushing his emotions aside to only believe in his “one true thing” his rational mind with the help of copious amounts of vicodin to supress said emotions so the patient then revealing she chose emotions over logic was the tipping point for him and also proved no amount of vicodin could supress the emotions he had successfully hidden and so he lashed out in a grand style.

    I was shocked by what he did in the end but for a character as complex as House and who’s emotions always take a back seat to his rationality I have no problem forgiving him for “one” act of irrationality.

  • byzantine

    Dear readers of Barbara’s blog,

    Please, please do not turn this wonderful, smart and very accommodating space that Barbara provides for us to discuss, to share our ideas, to experience catharsis, you name it, into a battleground. Let Hugh Laurie and Lisa Edelstein be whoever they are. What matters is that they are wonderful actors who made us talk and care about the incredibly complicated and compelling characters they play. And we owe them for it. Neither of them deserves the type of sentiments shared here.

  • Cardiac Monitor

    @Oversimplified #180; rockin’ the House! Exactly my sentiments. The character of House, if he were allowed to remain true to his character, would not resort to an act of physical violence, he’d come up with a more intellectual approach if he felt the need to “get even.” Well done, you.

  • Oversimplified

    @ 171 The Other Barnett
    I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree over the crash. To me it jarred with the internal logic of everything the writers have constructed in House’s character for the sake of a controversial ending. I watched an interview from back in season 5 and even Hugh Laurie didn’t see the character as at all violent. The House of previous seasons would have exacted his revenge (not that I think he needed to) in a much more intelligent manner and like a chess player would have thought out his actions umpteen moves ahead, instead of blowing up his whole life in one fell swoop too. Why not just disappear? Or even fake his own death? People have been lamenting the loss of the character’s roots in Sherlock Holmes and that would have been an incredibly Holmsian thing to do. In short I miss the misanthropic genius who’s been switched for a violent idiot.

  • ruthinor

    Epic B*tchery: I never heard that Carl Reiner story before. Interesting. However, I remain very naive and would like to think that nothing happened between HL and LE. If he wanted sex, HL certainly would have many opportunities w/o mucking up the works on set. If you’ve ever seen interviews with LE she talks about sex a lot; that’s for her therapist to figure out why. I would think she has a lot to lose in that situation; him not so much.

    As for Hugh Laurie’s music: IMO, he’s a talented instrumental musician, not a great, or even good singer. Were it not for “House”, his album would probably be an afterthought today. HL’s portrayal of House is magnificent, but nothing in his previous career comes even close (drama-wise). It will be interesting to see if any of his new movies reach anywhere near the success of House.

  • Ingrid

    How the heck does being a Huddy have to do with a personal insult made against Lisa Edelstein, who is an actress and a human being?! No insults of this nature should be tolerated on this site. And this ought to be reinforced here. Ridiculous. I don’t ship anyone but Gregory House himself and I’m not anti anything of any ship either. And agree with ruthinor.

  • ruthinor

    Wow, Dani: I disagree with you on the finale and you just have me all figured out, don’t you? You must be the only one who knows the “truth”! Who’s the bitter one? Did you actually notice that many folks actually agree with me? Including many critics? In fact, it is probably the majority opinion. Or did that pass you by? Are we all bitter little “Huddies” ?? Are we all bitter and full of rage? My rage is at people who use rumors to attack people just for the hell of it. If you don’t like that, too f**king bad!

  • Epic B*tchery

    I had a professor once (male) who said, “There is no such thing as a monogamous man.” Turns out he was mostly right. As I get older and understand men more, their behavior becomes more and more predictable.

    HL probably did boink LE once or twice; as someone previously posted: he’s no saint. Men want and need sex, and he was separated from his wife for months at a time. “Gentleman” or not, I have yet to meet a man who did not take advantage of such an obvious opportunity. When Carl Reiner introduced Dick Van Dyke to Mary Tyler Moore back before most of you even occupied the planet, he suggested that Dick and Mary “spend a weekend together” in order to “project believability” of married couple Rob and Laura Petrie. Dick and Mary were both budding alcoholics at that time. Do you really believe that they didn’t have a one-off in a dressing room at some point?

    From what I saw last year, LE was very public (and explicit) in her sexual attraction for Hugh Laurie. Hugh’s wife was half a world away, for the most part, so why not? Perhaps Hugh did “grease Lisa’s treads,” so to speak, to add some dimension to the on-screen relationship.

    The point is, none of it matters a damn when it comes to the discussion underway at this site. The finale sucked and David Shore needs to reassess and attempt damage control, or Season 8 will turn out to be a total waste of everybody’s time.

  • Dani

    @ 170-ruthinor

    I salute you, ruthinor, repository of te absolute thruth about the finale!

    Really, you’re both ridiculous and so petty with your remarks, your post radiate so much bitterness and rage. If a stupid fictional relationship makes you so upset you should take a break, this is not healty.
    Huddies, oh my….

  • Cardiac Monitor

    @The Other Barnett #172: You made fun of Hugh Laurie’s musical skills? I must’ve missed reading about that! I think his “musical skills” are swell. I just wish he hadn’t opted to sing in his “nasal twang American” accent. He has a nice voice naturally; why screw up the CD by emulating Dr. House?

  • U.K. Uma

    Mouse #168: Read, surf and step off.

  • The Other Barnett


    Thanks so much for the comment about the characters being framed also as dysfunctional. I agree that the writers did not intend to make anyone a victim or a villain….but some of the inconsistent quality of the writing over the first 16 episodes this season did a bad job of keeping away from villifying Cuddy a bit. And I believe that some people who watch House do insert themselves too emotionally into the interactions, as if they are House’ sister or Cuddy’s best male friend (etc.). So, big psychic hug to you for your observation, my friend!

    Secondly, what the heck are we doing on her talking about personal relationships that could be not only rumor, but nearly character assasination of Laurie and Edelstein. Its one thing to attack Edelstein for her choice to leave the show….that is an artistic opinion being shared in a less than artisticly graceful manner. My making fun of Laurie’s minimal musical skills is just peanut-gallery stuff. But talking about personal animosities, affairs, etc…..well that is no better than some of the old ladies at my church that comment on every hug between a male and female that are not related and not married. YOu all are better than that! And yet, I agree, this is not worthy of bouncing people off the blog….its worthy of being aggressively ignored and not responded to.

  • The Other Barnett

    nada, please read Autumn’s (166) comment. If House knows the Cuddy house operations, he assumes he knows Rachel is in bed. It is also possible that House saw no Rachel at the table (usually I’ve noticed she is either sitting facing the window, with her back to the window, or next to her mother), thus he assumed she was not present at the house (since the guy is new and House knows Cuddy would limit exposure until things get serious)or already in her room.

    And do not paint me in the group (if there is even one existing) of those who’d want Cuddy dead. I support this act by House because he is….House. This is the kind of destructive stuff he never does physically, but instead verbally. He physically hurts himself and then emotionally hurts everyone else…..this break was what it was…a break from the pattern. Its not a healthy thing he did and (oversimplified, read this)I’d never be able to forgive someone for such behavior if I actually knew someone that did this in real life. But if I am in the same fictional existence as him…and I am not a close/close friend like Wilson or Cuddy (lets say more of a Nolan or a 13…someone with some emotional detachement), I’d see his side to the reaction, though I’d still disapprove of it.

    If I am in House’s situation (vicodin-riddled, but able to make quick accurate analysis of a condition or situation), I’d drive the car through the wall, yes! I’d hand the brush to Cuddy, shake the hand of the new suitor and say “good luck, be patient with her” and then walk off….maybe imploring Wilson to get to a hospital to see to his arm. But the kamikaze car….yes, I’d do it if I am House and in this world that the writers have created.

    One last thing, the crash would not have to be used as a plot device if the inconsistent writing had not forced the show into this corner. House, sadly seeing a Cuddy moving on with a new guy, walking away, popping a vicodin and sighing…that would have sucked……and so would have Cuddy and House coming to some kind of healthy closure…..that is not the world that has been created (by the good writing or the inconsistent writing).

  • ruthinor

    Wow, Vistekarte, your adoration of High Laurie blinds you to the truth about the finale as it also causes you to totally misunderstand my post.

    So old Hugh was sooo sorrowful about his adultery. And how do you know it was only ONE mistake? You follow him around? You know, I don’t give a rat’s ass about him, what he did etc. It’s HIS life and I don’t condemn him. The ONLY point I was trying to make was that he isn’t exactly Mr. Innocent. If you’re going to call someone a whore (that didn’t seem to bother you much) for some unproven factoid, then let’s call a spade a spade. Also, I wasn’t implying ANYTHING in my mentioning the mariachi dance, other than these two actors seemed to be on good terms and were glad the season was over. I never thought that there was anything between them other than being costars. Whenever two TV stars are involved onscreen there are ALWAYS rumors. Why do Brits, especially, accept these rumors as true? And why call someone names based on these rumors? For Pete’s Sake, doesn’t anyone know about the British tabloids?

  • Luc

    Very sad that this dialogue is even happening.

  • Mouse

    @149 – Take Five

    “The Brits think of her as an “American Whore.”

    I am a Brit and have never heard anybody call LE that, i think your comment is extremely rude and you have no right to tarnish “The Brits” with “your” opinion of her.

  • Visitkarte


    The one adultery is widely known, and HL felt very remorseful about it. Knowing that, it’s even worse spreading rumors about (hopefully) entirely non romantic involvement in rumors. I don’t like it and ONE mistake is nothing I would condemn anyone, (no, not even my husband, if he ever did).

    The fact he did one misstep makes him even more protective now. He does love his wife, and if you doubt it, why do you think his album is called “Let Them Talk”?. Read the lyrics of hear them well, they might help you understand why quite a lot of HL fans are very disturbed by the rumors.

    HL danced with LE at the wrap up, and he looked quite wasted. I think he has some idea it might be their last time in the same team. Why would a goodbye dance be something to be frowned upon? He is a gentleman, after all. He kissed a random guest in Berlin, too, made a girl happy, while his wife was there, watching. It was innocent thing. Look at how he treated Amber Tamblyn… He organized a real farewell party for her, paid it all out of his pocket.

    Don’t mistake kindness for romance.

  • Autumn

    @Visitkarte #160

    Thanks, really enjoyed your take on the crash etc.

    Regarding Rachel Cuddy being in the room, Peter Blake answered on twitter that the crash happened at around 7.30pm on a balmy new Jersey evening and Rachel was in bed.

  • Jane

    It’s interesting that the writers seemed to intentionally craft the Cuddy character since S6 to reflect her fears of a relationship with House. Even when she told him she loved him, she “didn’t want to” because she was afraid. The scripted her to make the obvious point that she’d always been expecting something, which was meant – I believe – to explain why she had been controlling a b#itchy. Apparently, the writers didn’t do too well at that conveyed idea, either or she wouldn’t be considered the evil person on the show.

    It seems they were scripting each character the past couple of seasons to make the obvious point that they are all screwed up and that’s what brings them together AND tears them apart. That’s why we’ve had so many side stories. It would appear the audience didn’t pick up on these nuances and now everyone is pointing the finger at who the real villains are. I don’t think the writers wanted there to be a villain. That was the point of the storylines, but instead of the obvious metaphor it just came across as OOC and annoying. Guess that will be eventually marked down as another Fail for TPTB. The constant arguing about this is only verifying that.

  • ruthinor

    Wow, this site has deteriorated into a version of the British tabloids…something you Brits are probably ever so proud of! You do know, Brits, that your “sainted” Hugh famously committed adultery with an Australian hottie some time ago. Yes, what a family man! Do you also know that at the finish of this season, sainted Hugh and the devil Lisa were seen dancing to a mariachi band at wrap -up? Yes, how awful!!! Jo must be furious!! You do also know that actors who appear in television series do publicity for the show, including hyping romances on the show? Nah, way above your heads. The fact is that nobody, including the Brits, knows who said what to whom about LE leaving the show. Some folks actually communicate outside of the press.

    Now, on with your character assassinations! See ya.

  • U.K. Uma

    Problem is, your “American” Take Five is right.

  • Theo

    Hey Take Five, take it easy with the judgmental personal insults against Lisa Edelstein. The double standards for men and women’s personal lives, unbelievable. Hugh Laurie is no saint either. If anything, he’s pretty paranoid about upholding his public image, so don’t put so much stock in what you see and read by him. Everyone lies. Celebrities are notorious for this. There is no British protection. As Eloise says, the show is not widely successful there so why would they care about the personal life of Ms. Edelstein let alone call her names? Perhaps this is your personal view because you would hate to see HL’s image tainted in your mind.

    Christopher Rose, Being the BC’s comments editor, I am really surprised there aren’t any guidelines in place anymore that you had alluded to in your 2007 interview regarding personal insults. Calling someone a whore seems like an uncalled for personal insult that has no place on this blog about the House finale!

  • Visitkarte

    I meant, of course, HLs facial expression, and I felt for House, Hugh did just a terrific job acting, again.

    I can tell them apart, very much so. 😉

    Sorry about my typing errors, I’m in hurry.

  • Visitkarte

    Thanks a bunch to the most of the posters since post 127. You made my day!

    To the few who are still resentful:

    1. Rachel Cuddy

    – She wasn’t in the room. She would have been in the high chair if she were there.

    -She couldn’t have been there. Cuddy would never expose her little daughter with a new possible boyfriend so soon after crashing her last relationship. Remember her mother? She was right, almost in everything she told her.

    2. I was spoiled about the fact that they were filming a car crash scene by Cuddy’s home. I saw a hand in a men’s suite on the wheel of the car crashing into it.

    Having known that, when I saw HLs facial expression when he looked through the window, I “knew” shat was coming and I felt for him. In my view he was symbolically crashing her nice home with the white fence and her newest try on the classical ideal family life. I felt devastated on his behalf and never even saw it as a possible homicide action. It might have something to do with my knowledge of the usual crash physics and what usually happens when a car hits a wall… My personal experience with these things says that the wall is usually at advantage in such meetings. That’s why I never saw any homicidal intention, and if it came out differently for a lot of viewers, I’d say, a bit too much Hollywood. Most of the movie crashes are much more sensational than the ones in RL. Cars don’t go through houses just like that, cars don’t catch fire every time they hit an obstacle, and luckily, not every car does a triple summersault after getting a heavy side while speeding… So, I didn’t expect anything more than a minor damage to the wall and a major damage to the car and the man within. I guess that was House’s idea, too.

    The symbolical story was harsh, but not bad. The only mistake (if there was one) was the editing of the scene: Have they shown the empty room House unmistakably saw before his stunt and did a bit less ballistic scene with the crash, it would have been much better. Subtlety can often do more.

    I feel sorry for HL for taking some fire, undeservedly, and for probably losing his last chance on an EMMY award… They didn’t get the character and the great acting before, they are hardly going to give him the long due award now. The show was always controversial, but now it starts to overtax even the comprehension of some very intelligent viewers, maybe DS expects sometimes too much of his audience.

  • Take Five

    @2Lightworker #155: Exactly.

  • Ingrid

    Nice to know this site condones such judgmental personal insults and attacks against actors and their personal lives.

  • Nada

    It would have been interesting to know why writers focus more on Taub’s life instead of developing something about Foreman or Chase (Jesse Spencer is a great actor, his interaction with Olivia Wilde in EP22 was really good).

  • Eloise

    I would be surprised if many people in GB knew who you were talking about if LE was mentioned, her leaving was not reported over here in the british press. House is not as popular in GB as its only on Sky1 which is a paid for channel.

  • 2Lightworker


    Very sorry, I see the way I wrote that sounded as if it was part of your comment; was referring to that remark quoted in the media last summer, which was appallingly inappropriate to say the least.

    I posted that because the gossip has been a horror. However, I was surprised to see those rumors even mentioned here. Aside from context and protocol on this blog, since Hugh has made it very clear that he finds talk about his personal life to be so repugnant, which anyone who knows his history can understand, let us let this be. Am 100% for being protective of HL and his family as they have navigated all this since 2004, but would rather not to have read the remark about LE as generalized British judgement. Less said the better.

    As to lack of “fare thee well,” my sense is there is much behind the scenes politics, and HL looked quite stressed in airport photos leaving LA, compared with the the upbeat photos of Hugh and Jo when they arrived at the Eurostar station shortly thereafter. Reading the interviews in defense of the finale, etc. etc., I think the mentality in the Hollywood zone must be very taxing for him.

    As a fan of all HL’s film and television work, in which he can take modest material and raise it to a level of excellence, I have been delighted to see how fulfilled he is with his music and the good reception he has received, as well as news of his upcoming film work.

    It seems as if on both sides of the pond, gossip is “from the devil’s workshop” as he sings in the title track of “Let them Talk,” followed by the words “and only true love can make it stop,” which is consistent with what he has said in the French press about his gratitude and need for the love of his wife and children.

  • Ciby, the book is available in Argentina. In fact, it is in Spanish there and was referenced in a recent Newsweek (El Argentina) article on medicine. It is called Guia no Oficial de House from Selector.

    The episode was obviously very controversial, and in fact , very polarizing among fans, both in and out of the “fandom.” no matter the intention, I think House (the character) has been damaged, and season 8 will ne a long road back for him, at least for the first several episodes. I still believe that Cuddy will remain a presence, whether she is there physically ar not.

  • To clarify matters in response to comment #152, there is no requirement at Blogcritics for discussions in the comments space to be limited to any particular topic, so commenters are free to discuss anything they wish to address.

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  • yjust a thought

    I don’t think this is the apropriate website to gossip about the personal lives of HL, LE, etc
    This blog is about [H], the TV programm

  • Nada

    147 – Oversimplified
    “I’m not a fan of the way Cuddy has been written this season, but I don’t understand why people are prepared to make allowances for him, but not for her. Dumping someone and then moving on from them doesn’t warrant your ex driving through your house, especially if they can’t be bothered to establish that you hadn’t actually lied to them.”

    I hope that Dr Jekyll will wake up and will feel remorse, what he did was horrible, it can be traumatic for Cuddy.

  • Nada

    145 – The Other Barnett
    “well, he did what I would have happily done if I had a car to dispense with.”

    Even with a child in the house?
    I think nobody deserves this act of violence.
    But maybe some people here would have also liked to see Cuddy dead after this accident, because she’s a villain.

  • Take Five

    @2Lightworker #135: Yeah, but I expected, at the very least, a “fare-thee-well” from him.

    Also, I never said that LE was considered HL’s “American Wife.” The Brits think of her as an “American Whore.” Big difference. They’re rather protective of their home boy and his family.

  • merkof


    Thank you!

    As a latecomer to the world of House I congratulate you on this parallel world you have created. It was a stroke of luck for me to find this site. Your insightful analyses enhanced my enjoyment of the series.
    It is also a credit to you that you have attracted so many others whose writings are full of diverse and well presented opinions. It is a joy to read through all the posts.
    Needless to say that at the end I get frustrated as I want to comment on most of them but there is simply not enough time.

  • Oversimplified

    @ The Other Barnett
    I really can’t get my head around how you can justify the car crash. Cuddy was letting him get on with self-destructing until he dragged her out in the middle of the night when he cut into his leg, in the same way that he made her go to the wedding when he knew it was clear she still had feelings for him. That latter act is sadistic to be quite honest. Yes Cuddy screwed up, but she messed up because she’s just as flawed as House is. I’m not a fan of the way Cuddy has been written this season, but I don’t understand why people are prepared to make allowances for him, but not for her. Dumping someone and then moving on from them doesn’t warrant your ex driving through your house, especially if they can’t be bothered to establish that you hadn’t actually lied to them.

    I do however agree that House needed to break away to get his head together, but there are ways and means that wouldn’t have backed the writers into a corner. Anyway which way I look at it the car crash it seems gratuitous, foolhardy and the product of a shock and awe tactic rather than a real attempt to retain the integrity of the character. Of course you can argue that maybe he’s been capable of something this destructive all along, and maybe that’s true but I genuinely think that ‘Cuddy on a date’ was an incredibly weak and contrived way of expressing that ‘snapping point’. Sure Wilson and Cuddy have almost become millstones around his neck, but that’s because he’s actively encouraged them to give him advice about his personal life, even if he knows it’s bad, as then he’s not responsible if things go wrong. At the end of Now What? Cuddy gives him the option to break up with her and despite his reservations about the future of their relationship, he doesn’t, clearly not because he’s reassured by her argument. He then goes about proving himself right for the next 14 episodes. House has always had the option to get up and stand on his own two feet (excuse the pun), but instead he’s used them in much the same way he uses his cane. I’ve always been rooting for him to take control of his life, I just wish they had done it in a more intelligent, nuanced manner that didn’t essentially destroy the character’s innate sense of morality, which ironically he used to have in spades regardless of his derision of authority.

  • anon

    @ 129 – Take Five

    ” (Hope you’re back on BOTH of your feet soon, Broken Leg)”

    I may be the only one laughing massively right now at your comment, kudos for that just the same 😀

  • The Other Barnett

    Sharon, You make a great point up to the “B” comment about Cuddy. The action was perfectly cathartic for House and for the viewer who cares most about House (with no behavioral pre-requisite strings attached). Cuddy is a very difficult woman (dozens of prospective suitors cannot be wrong) and the emotional state House is in was enabled by Cuddy as she brought him into a relationship with her, to when she nagged him to change, to when she dumped him, to when she kept saying “tell me what you’re feeling”. The fact House said it was not her fault was (I think) his way of trying to heal things, because he thought they were both now alone. The sight of the carefree Cuddy with some new guy…well, he did what I would have happily done if I had a car to dispense with.

  • The Other Barnett


    First of all, good wrap up on the finale and I loved the interview.

    I agree that disliking the story arc of the season or the finale does not make the show poorly written. I do think that inconsistent quality in writing did create some story-arcs (especially first 2/3rds of the season) that were not only not satisfying, but not faithful to the quality of story-telling that this show has been known for. And the resulting finale was also harmed by the inconsistent writing.

    I think your comment about that “this was not our House” does give insight to the reaction of those who are upset with the finale. Everyone is trying to own House, the last seven years (as the writers shared, previously)and have been trying to get House to live to their standards when he obviously is his own person. That kamikaze auto incident into the house was House’ way of not only saying f___ you, but also saying that he is tired of trying to live up to everyone’s standards when they are simply watering down what he can bring to this world.I am not saying I fully agree, but I certainly can relate to the notion that I have to fit into someone else’ box of expectations…..even though it hurts, cramps and maybe takes away from what made the people want me in the box in the first place.

    What House did was his way of making a break that some people have to do. I know of relationships that, while good for me, are better being harshly discarded if I am going to move on. It was an emotional amputation that took place when he drove that car through the wall. The handing of that brush over to a shocked Cuddy was a show of astonishing internal peace for him. House may be persona-non-grata….well Cuddy is also p-n-g, too. Its not a mature way of handling it and it is not supposed to be. Breaking up is not a graceful thing. It is not a pleasant thing. And trying to treat it as anything else than the horrible emotional trauma that it can be is dishonest and insulting to the character of the people involved. You yourself said that House’s “problem is that he feels too much”. What is wrong with feeling something too keenly? It is through intense pain that we can appreciate intense happiness. This crash was the intense pain fever breaking. And that walk on the beach….well, that is recovery (albeit away from those whom he has offended).

    I do agree with you that the writers did paint themselves into a corner with this episode. At first I thought it was not only cool, but it created the logical move of House out of PPH for a few weeks or months and into some kind of rehab format (did I mention I love Andre Braugher?) – and the inevitable understanding on Wilson’s part, as well as House’ where everyone has made mistakes. But the more I think about it, if we are operating from a more realistic world view, it would be extremely rough for House to just re-enter PPH after even months-upon-months of proper “domestication”. Furthermore if this is the last season, it makes for a damn tough way of actually telling the final stories in a satisfactory arc to make every lover of this show fully happy at saying goodbye. Either we rehab House, we do a quickie overview of the rehab and re-enter the medical puzzles, or we find some middle-ground where House corrects while staying true to himself and yet also being the brilliant diagnostician that humbles all around him – and we all know how middle-ground decisions turn out 🙂

  • Action Kate

    For House to end like the Sopranos, it would have to have House sitting at his desk fiddling with a bottle of Vicodin, with Wilson and the various team members slowly converging on his office with “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” in the background, and then as House reaches for the bottle, Wilson comes in, cut back to House’s expression, the screen goes black. 😀

  • Jake

    138 – Kim:

    I hope that House does not end like the Sopranos. I (like House) hate open ended finales! Give me your take, don’t ask me to interpret.

  • Jake

    133 – Nada:

    I’ve thought about that. The past few episodes you can see Taub, Foreman, Chase and 13 starting to get that House ability to notice the quirks of people and how they relate to the situation. Chase noticing that 13 was dry despite a “plumbing” problem, the entire team solving a case with minimal input from House. The writers have started down a path where they could easily move on without House to keep with the medical drama, but the question then becomes would anyone watch? I would watch for likely half a season before the absence of Hugh Laurie would not allow me to watch anymore.

    It will be interesting where Mr. Shore and Co. go from here. The loss of Lisa Edelstein is a huge blow to the cast. I could, in a weird twisted way, see House needing Rachel and that being his out. He developed a connection with her and that could be a way to get him out of the hospital. I think that is the only way the show can end, without House completely gone from medicine.

  • Nada

    139 – Sharon Blake
    “The Cuddy character has been a B-t-h for 7 seasons. The woman has a personality disorder and no business running a hospital.”

    Bouh Cuddy the villain who broke up with Mr nice guy.

  • Sharon Blake

    I started watching House on April 24th and, thanks to Netflix and Hulu Plus these past 6 weeks, completed episode #155 – Moving On – yesterday. I found House’s destruction of Cuddy’s little domestic scene perfect catharsis for me, and a physical demonstration of House’s rethinking of his earlier statement to Cuddy: “It’s not your fault.” It – the break up – was TOTALLY her fault. The Cuddy character has been a B-t-h for 7 seasons. The woman has a personality disorder and no business running a hospital. I’m delighted to see her go.

  • Kim in California

    You know, I have been thinking that Hugh and Shore always talk about ending the series on a ‘bang’. Well, trying to end this season on a bang ended up in a poorly written and executed finale. Maybe they should take their cue from the Sopranos and go out on a subtle note, leaving you wondering what will happen next to House. The finale to the Sopranos was great television, leaving it to your own imagination what would happen next.

  • Kim in California

    I definitely believe that this is the last season coming up (whether I watch or not) because Hugh wants to do new projects, possibly more music. But don’t kid yourself, Hugh’s not moving everything back to London. He’ll keep his house here and travel back and forth although he’ll probably spend a lot of time in London to start with. Hugh has acknowledged that he enjoys his home in CA despite being homesick in the beginning. He wants to act and LA is where it’s at (most of the time.) But, you are right..this will be the last season. Hugh won’t want the show to completely tank before he leaves–he’ll want to go out with his head high and that has to be soon. House/Hugh didn’t receive any nods from the TV Critics Picks announced today. I doubt they’ll receive any Emmy nods for this season either. However, Justified and Timothy Olyphant received nods…now there’s a great series (they haven’t screwed it up yet.)

  • Hello Barbara! First of all, I have to admit I’ve been reading your blog for 3 years now and you’ve showed you’re incredibly wise week in and week out with your episode reviews. [However, here in Argentina your book isn’t on sale that’s why I haven’t purchased it yet.]

    Secondly, let me disagree with you in your season finale’s rationalization, for that’s what this controversial episode’s fate was meant to be: a disagreement catalyst between fans.

    The episode flows between these concepts:

    (1) Mixing the present with the past. As in House-Wilson solid rock friendship, House ambiguous and extremely contradictory life philosophy and unraveling House’s feelings after the breakup. They bring back old Housian themes as the leg, his drug addiction, the white board and the silly old-fashioned medical melodrama House is so keen on watching to distract himself from reality in his tiny portable tv. However, they now add frustration caused by the fact that whatever House can do is never enough, he has been across the other path but returned in discontent and now sees the materialization of his ultimate fear: there is no way out.

    (2) Since he has tried everything to achieve what others seems to get so effortlessly even if they “don’t deserve it,” his last eruption of insanity somehow forces him to turn the page and start a new chapter. Subconsciously he’s aware that he needs to change the formula, otherwise the result will never differ. He’s tried modifying his behavior, so if that’s not enough he needs to hold firmly to his innate being but change the environment his behavior is interacting with. I think that’s why he went to a non-poisoned, virgin place at the end of the episode. He has tried so hard to live up to Cuddy and Wilson’s expectations and failed to do so once and again that maybe what he really need is to liberate his mind in a place where he won’t be scolded for doing it.

    (3) THE-UNFORGIVABLE-SHOCKER: what I’m clueless about is the car crash. Let’s assume House saw everyone in the table leaving to another room. I don’t think a person like House would have let something happen to RACHEL CUDDY. And he clearly couldn’t have known Rachel wasn’t on the dinning room at that moment and he could have killed her with the impact. In my regard, that’s a plothole that needs to be explained as soon as possible if we want to give the producers some credibility for their claims on the not homicidal final scene.

    Well, that’s all for me, Barbara. It’s the very first time I comment on your blog so I’ll be thrilled to hear your comeback. I hope I haven’t made many grammar mistakes in this piece of writing, but I’m sorry I couldn’t do it better as English is not my first language.

    Best wishes, your sincerely


  • 2Lightworker


    Your noticing HL’s lack of comment on the backlash to S 7, especially the finale, and LE’s departure, seems consistent with his very diplomatic way of handling conflict, as well as perhaps not wanting to be in a position of either criticizing those who provided him with an opportunity that has propelled him to a much more visible level of stardom, or reciting phrases of support (as in “it’s not what’s done, but the how.”) Given his smarts and experience in so many areas of performance, he surely is aware of some of the problems discussed here. As I posted elsewhere, I think it would be an upgrade of “don’t bite the hand that feeds you.”

    Thanks for commenting on the gossip that has been circulating for a long time, but only on some sites that most viewers probably don’t know about (as far as I have read, not in any news item or tabloid) and noting that there are others involved in the fall-out, such as Hugh’s kids. I have thought that the lack of interviews between HL and LE this season, compared with the past, had to do with the remarks you quoted, as well as the one about LE being thought of as “his American wife.” Some may think that’s insignificant, but given the discreet style that Hugh projects in interviews, as well as his strong, smart wife’s support and visibility in many of his tours, it would seem likely that such remarks were beyond the pale. Having said that, I also think LE was encouraged to be provocative to push the Huddy relationship, they were seated together at many events as the storyline grew, and perhaps LE got carried away in the unreality of Hollywood spin. The HuLi fantasies were meanspirited, and I have thought for some time that the change in the early pattern of Hugh and Jo’s attending awards ceremonies as a couple were the result of her not wanting to be subjected to such insults and his desire to protect her. Photos and videos of their many travels together show her keeping a distance to avoid photographers. I think she’s adorable and it appears that they have built a very strong bond through all the vicissitudes of their life together.

  • Exfan

    #125 coral
    I saw Barbara’s tweet for final thoughts and I thought that after investing 7 years to watching this show I would have a right to post my FINAL opinions, that’s all.

  • Nada

    132 – Jake
    I also think House should stop being a doctor (but whatelse wan he do?) and let Wilson living his life without him, (as for Cuddy), they should all move on.
    Maybe new characters could give to the show new horizons. But it seems that 13, foreman, and taub are back next season.

  • Jake

    Honestly, there wasn’t another way for House to react. I wouldn’t believe House was ok if he simply let Cuddy go without doing something drastic like this. Its obvious that House, when it comes to true love, holds on for dear life and is willing to go to the ends of the world to make it last. I most certainly get that feeling. And when it leaves you, given House’s temperament and discourse, he has to wonder, who else is going to be able to put up with me? Feeling that much hurt, something that hurts more than slicing your leg open, and as much as removing half of your thigh muscle, isn’t a pain he’s willing to take on. So to remove it, he does the unthinkable. He burns the bridge so it can’t be repaired. He doesn’t just cut the ropes, he smashes the bridge, burns it to ash, and shoots it to outer space. There’s no going back and that is the only way he can truly move on.

  • ann uk

    PS. I have just read True Grit’s analysis of the last episode. A great and true insight and beautifully expressed. Like you ,I always have to watch each episode several times and still find subtleties of writing or acting I have missed.

  • ann uk

    Did anyone else notice that when House is lying on the stretcher in the A. and E. ( as we British call it ),in pain and despair and terrified of what the surgeons might do to him, he still responds to his team’s call for help ? Still trying to do the right thing …
    I have no idea how Team House propose to develop this situation, but I don’t think we should give up on House. He is so complex a character and has surprised us so often ” Time cannot wither him or custom stale his infinite variety ” !

    Sadly, I admit that series 8 will probably be the last and I agree with Hugh Laurie that it would be better to end on bang and not a whimper.I used to think the end would be tragic, but that might seem too obvious after so many vicissitudes.Perhaps he will achieve his own form of fulfillment, but I don’t think he would settle for conventional happiness.

    I hope that his success in “HOUSE” will give H.L. the chance to show his genius in other roles.I am looking forward to “Mr. Pip”, it is a great book and the part of Mr. Pip might have been written for him.

  • Take Five

    #127 – SciFi Fan: Yup, I gotta agree with you on everything. (Hope you’re back on BOTH of your feet soon, Broken Leg).

    I also find it interesting that Hugh Laurie has been uncharacteristically quiet with respect to LE’s departure and the finale backlash. He had a lot to say following the Season 7 premiere. Never mind that he’s in New Guinea filming right now; they’ve got cell towers in the South Pacific, too.

    Also, there are copious tears a-flowing in the “Land of HuLi.” Those troublesome little shippers are awash with grief as they believe LE’s departure signals the end of the great “HL/LE affair.” Now poor Hugh has to settle for his non-glamorous, yet long-suffering, British Bride for sex ‘n’ sympathy.

    I think Jo Green deserves all of the “riches” that God can bestow for putting up with their shit. And shame on LE for all of her “Hugh is soooo sexy and I’d f**k him in a Hollywood minute, except he’s married *wink, wink*” and other highly-publicized and inappropriate remarks. I wonder if Hugh had trouble looking his young daughter in the eye after one of LE’s provocative proclamations. Tsk.

    @S.T.M.#128: Don’t forget “A Bit of Fry and Laurie,” as well as the hysterically funny “Blackadder.”

  • S.T..M

    On Hugh Laurie:

    I have just caught an episode screened on ABC in Australia of a re-release of Jeeves and Wooster, a four-season adaptation of P.G.Wodehouse’s dry and hilarious commentary on the idle rich, set in Britain and the US, mainly London and New York, in the 1930s.

    Hugh Laurie plays Bertie Wooster, an idle but well-meaning minor British aristocrat, to a tee. His old mate Stephen Fry plays his valet, Jeeves, who rescues Wooster and his indolent friends from all manner of scrapes.

    Laurie is simply brilliant. What struck me was the range in his acting, particularly when you compare it to some of his later appearances, and especially to his character House.

    Fry is the other other show-stealer. For fans of Laurie, it’s worth more than a look. It’s excellent television. The last two seasons, in 1993 and 1994, won awards.

    I believe they have been re-released on DVD.

  • SciFi Fan

    @Wonder #104: Where are you getting your info? Shifting blame to the network? Sorry, but this was KJ and DS screw-ups all the way.

    @exfan #105 and Kim in CA #109: Well said, both of you. However, #105, there is no way on Earth or in Hell that Hugh Laurie will do a Season 9. Within a month of wrapping the series finale next spring, he’ll have his LA house packed up and moved back to London. He’s outta here, and no mistake.

    @ Superfly #120: Cut Broken Leg some slack. She’s totally wasted, don’t you know (“broken leg” = “pain medication”). She’ll snap out of it when her head clears from her hydrocodone haze.

  • angela

    shore destroyed the show’s last episodes as things out of context of the character

    1 – house said he did not sleep with women casadasy Stacy and Lydia?

  • Coral

    105 – exfan

    Well your’e not much of an ex-fan to spend your time writing and sending that long post of yours. If you are done with the show why bother commenting?

  • Coral

    96 – Sneaky Microbe

    “TPTB tried to give Huddy fans a gift this season”

    A gift? if you actually watch the show HOUSE MD you would have realised the whole show is based on House the character and would have accepted going into this relationship that it was only a way to show another side to him that had not already been revealed, yes they used cuddy’s character to reveal it because House had his mind set on Cuddy saving him but obviously she was not the right choice and he has for once in his life been proven wrong.

    I am usually a silent reader but with each new recent article here you state the same argument about Huddy. You did state about watching it for other reasons in this one (The medicine, Wilson) but why do you go to the trouble when you claim each time that you will not be watching the show anymore?

  • Johnathan–

    One of the great things, I’ve been told by the writers, is that the show never shoots without the writer on set. In the case of multiple writers at least one is on set all the time. It’s an incredible luxury they tell me, and one that can facilitate changes (though not prevent gray-hair-on-writers syndrome).

  • Laura Saxon

    I think things will probably be a bit worse in the first part of season eight and House will probably have to answer charges and cut way down on his Vicodin use or at the very least, go to Mayfield again, and he’ll probably have to live with Wilson again.

  • Action Kate

    To elaborate on one of Blacktop@71’s points:

    If the writers had one pretty clear vision of how they wanted the audience to understand House’s actions, they did not deliver it. Between the writers, producers, directors, and editors (and Hugh shares a bit of blame, I’m afraid), if they could not have written, shot, and produced an episode which could be understood to have one meaning by anyone watching, then they failed at delivering that vision.

    If, on the other hand, the writers intended for the finale to be open to multiple interpretations, then they have no right to act so shocked when the audience ::gasp:: has multiple interpretations! Even when those interpretations are completely the opposite of how the writers saw it! They don’t get to have their KABOOM ending and then also insist that it’s not a KABOOM.

    And repeatedly giving interviews explaining how we the audience were supposed to understand House’s actions doesn’t cut it. True Grit @78 has a fantastic analysis and interpretation. It may well be exactly what DS & Co. was trying to achieve. But a whole lot of people in the audience are only going by what they saw on the TV, and they don’t have anyone to tell them what they actually saw vs. their own lying eyes.

    In communications, each person is responsible for at least fifty-one percent of the message. You aren’t just responsible for your own part. You are also responsible, a little, for how the other person might hear your message. You are additionally responsible for all the ways your message might be heard which you didn’t intend. And if you don’t intend for Message B to go out when you mean Message A, then you have to go to extra lengths to make sure that Message A is easily understood and Message B is ruled out.

  • SuperFly

    @ all comments by BrokenLeg; you are repeating yourself, calm down and stop posting the same things please.

  • Johnathan

    @ 42 – El Bicho : 7 years at the NYC Mayor’s Office of Film, Theatre & Broadcasting, 10 years with Viacom and currently serving on the counsel of WGAE. I would say the odds I know more than you, are in my favor. There are logistics nightmares in productions that could cause a screenwriter and production hair turn gray from the sheer stress, from slight changes to scripts after their approval.

  • BrokenLeg

    Shore words on his recent interview: :“House is not going to be totally changed or different. The show is what it is. I am who I am. I write what I find interesting and always have. We have a veteran team of writers and we are not going to let the show take a nosedive eight years in. We just won’t. Bear with us fans. We will turn this into an opportunity I promise. We will find a way to bring something new to the show that will get them excited again. It’s all about turning obstacles into opportunities. That’s what life is all about. I loved Cuddy and Lisa, but it’s done and now we move forward. We have just gotten started talking season 8 arcs and trying to plan it and figure out what to do. We will devote ourselves to making season eight a great, great season.”

    And I need to say PLEASE STOP DOING IT! NOW! Please take a full breathe, look at yourself in a mirror and read your own words loud: You seem literally a fool saying it again, and again, and…

    Please do not insult audience’s intelligence, they are not stupid ones and are all big boys & girls!!

    It’s so difficult to you to be for once humble, give away usual arrogance, ask yourself that “maybe” something did not go as expected, and all is now more a big crappy screw-up than anything else?? If you do so, worldwide fandom probably give you the benefice ob doubt, and may forgive you by taking such wrong choices.

    But stop doing that kind of interviews. I repeat, your look so ridiculous and, worse, insult our intelligence.

  • Luc

    And yet Wilson was the one to point out (and House did not deny it) that House had been jerking Cuddy around for years when she was in love with him.

    It’s so easy to vilify any of these characters for their so-called emotional abuse over the years. But it’s their emotional dysfunction that brought them together in the first place. If they weren’t screwed up, House wouldn’t let them in his circle. Period.

    It feels right or it doesn’t. Arguing about the characters “true” nature is pointless and Anal.

  • Paul.s

    @ 82 – D : The writers clearly give little thought to the medical mysteries, check this website : http://www.politedissent.com/house_pd.html
    The blogger (a doctor) and those who comment (mainly other doctors) review the medical relevancy of the episode and constantly find ridiculous inaccuracies so it wouldn’t be beneath the writers to slack off about other aspect of the stories.

  • Miss

    Actually, Cuddy is not blameless in this situation. She is supposed to be a very VERY smart woman and yet she gets involved with a drug addict. She has actually used House for years to add prestige to her hospital. In the first episode she says he’s the best doctor she has. So she hasn’t protected him all these years in his interest. She’s done it in hers. She’s yanked him around for years. “Oh here, give me a shot in my butt for fertility treatment….oh look at my cleavage.” A truly smart person knows you can’t mess with the feelings of a drug addict. So her character played with fire and got burned. It’s actually a kind of appropriate ending because any other ending would be false. In real life, messing with the feelings of drug addicts gets you into serious trouble. And now House probably really does feel better. He really probably should have just fantasized about running into her house. But that wouldn’t be as dramatic. I hated this ending at first then thought about the characters through the years. Wilson is probably a better friend than Cuddy.

  • De-em

    Barbara, your remark that Cuddy and Wilson have not really enabled House is certainly true to me. It is surprising that they always seem to make up their minds on what House may think or what is good for him, but never ask him what he thinks or needs. What I also noticed is that House seldom really gets angry with them after one of their many pranks (e.g., Cane and Able & The Greater Good) and have been surprised what Cuddy and Wilson actually got away with without House venting his anger in an more explosive manner.
    The end of this final made me think of two things that explain House’s reaction: (1) with reference to the above: that people who seldom show their real anger will react with over the top anger the few times that they actually do get really angry; as if all the accumulated repressed anger comes out in one go. And (2) In France they have the “crime of passion” in their judicial system, and that is what House’s reaction reminded me of. This way over the top reaction that might actually hurt someone they love deeply. Murders have been committed within the scope of the crime of passion. To me, the end of this final certainly came close to this phenomenon.
    I like the character of House very much. And as you said, he definitely feels rather too much than too little. Besides breaking all ties with Cuddy, I think that driving into her dining roomt also fits the crime of passion pretty well.

  • Hughmorme

    How right you are Kim in California. I’ve been reading all these interviews (and boy are there a ton out there.) In each one the writer/producer/etc. attempt to explain that House didn’t mean to hurt anyone because obviously they were leaving the table. It wasn’t that obvious to me or my friend that Cuddy was leaving. She looked liked she was clearing the table and that means she’s in the dining room. In order to redeem themselves, the writers, directors and producers have to explain to us that the room was empty…well, duh, if you don’t read their interviews you don’t know that. So it doesn’t work. My boyfriend and my Dad stopped watching House after the monster truck episode. I stuck it out to the end of the season, but next season I have no desire to watch such an unsympathetic man careen into another building with people in it. Great job, David Shore, on killing this once phenomenal character driven medical mystery drama.

  • Sara

    ”Although who knows? There’s no reason to believe she’ll stay away forever, and wouldn’t it be spectacular for her to make a surprise guest appearance sometime this season?”

    Shore and GY says: ”Lisa want back even like guest star”
    So it’s impossible.

    @ Iris, critics ”hate” House md (bad recention reviews) from many years. Season 1, 2 and 3 was the golden ages (big success, great critics, many awards) season 4 was the the beginning of the end (with some episodes) season 5 and 6 are mediocre (with some good scenes) and season 7 is the worst with all this insane Huddy soap-opera and uninteresting patients.

  • Kim in California

    Hugh did the driving up the street where the car does the 180, he did not drive the car into the house itself, a stunt driver does.(you can see him in the photos taken at the scene that day)

    I agree with the fan who wrote that if the director/writers have to explain to the audience what they’re seeing, then it didn’t work. IT DIDN’T WORK.

  • BrokenLeg

    111 Kim in California

    Yours is the best analysis of all!!!

    I’m left alone too by son and husband, both MD’s, both ex-House fans…This means something.

  • Kim in California

    Barbara, I think you and many fans are over-analyzing this episode and its so-called ‘layered meanings.’ The writers of House are scrambling in interview after interview to ‘explain’ their absolute screw-up. This script had no layers of inner meaning. This was a stupid over-reaching attempt to come up with a finale to fit the trailers(cue up voice-over), ‘you’ve never seen House like this.’ Instead of writing a good plot they went for going out on a ‘good bang’ to get them May Ratings. Through their ridiculous script and poorly directed/edited ending, they have taken a character that you could love despite his flaws and acting out,and made him into an unlovable asshole in less than five minutes. I’ve loved this character through thick and thin and now I don’t. You’re right about one thing, they’ve created an unsympathetic character. After Huddy and this eye-rolling ending, they have succeeded in driving away a good portion of their solid fan base. I think the writers, David Shore, GY and even executive producer, Hugh Laurie, owe the fans a huge apology for this implausible and ridiculously conceived attempt to give us a stupid finale simply so that Season 7 would go out with a bang. (Sorry Hugh, love the acting, but you should have pulled the plug on this plot.) My husband stopped watching this season, claiming this wasn’t the House he enjoyed over the previous six years. After the attempted homicide that wasn’t really supposed to be an attempted homicide, I’m right behind him.

  • morphine, a violin, a friend and a mystery


    from Salon.com Tuesday, May 31, 2011

    TV spot for “Hot Genius Jerks With Quirky Jobs

    Television is cashing in on its most popular commodity: Brilliant SOBs

    They hate you, but they might just save your life.

    Between “House,” “Law & Order: Criminal Intent,” “Bones,” “Lie to Me,” and now this new show ” The Finder ” (he’s a guy who is the best at … finding stuff), I’m starting to sense a TV trend here. I am over shows where actual science and police work are treated like magic tricks, as if magicians were all horrible people with perfect teeth. Are show creators running out of good ideas? Because it’s not too long till we see this spot for this upcoming network season:

    Hot Genius Jerks With Quirky Jobs Promo


    Coming this summer, your favorite characters are back …

    Int: Hospital, zoom in on House’s cane, tapping impatiently.


    He’s the world’s most brilliant diagnostician …

    House is in hospital, limping away from patient’s room trailed by Hot Nurse.


    How did you know that replacing her blood with Draino was the only way to save this child’s life?


    The only thing he can’t fix … is his horrible social skills.

    House Guy:

    Screw you.

    He shoves her to the ground. She gets up. They start making out.

  • morphine, a violin, a friend and a mystery

    oh, did anyone else see LE on Childrens Hospital on AdultSwim this past Friday? I think it was a new episode and she was only there for a second. She was laying in bed with one of the doctors from the show as he took a call from the hospital saying he needed to come in (a la House!) Very cool.

  • morphine, a violin, a friend and a mystery

    barbara –

    wow, i think you nailed it. house is just done with people telling him what to do, how to live his life, how to do everything.

    the whole series, people have done nothing but analyze him, try to fix him.

    “some people are better left alone” – rollins

  • exfan

    I have been very disappointed with this show since the ending of bombshells, the break up, and have been going down hill since & hitting rock bottom with this finale. It seems very unbelievable to me, unless i have been imagining the relationship between the characters and who they really are.
    I feel very cheated with the way they portrayed H&C’s characters and their relationship. In my opinion they killed these two characters a long time ago.
    After 20+ years of a relationship and ultimately declaring their love for each other, C dumps H on his first slip up? And H runs to sleep with countless hookers and marries some random green card chick? Sounds like some type of nightmare.
    This behavior does not match who i thought these characters were. C, i thought, was stronger and more understanding especially of H. Now It doesn’t seem like she loved him all that much. H seemed like the type of person who fought for what he wanted not just give up and go insane. I was waiting for him to go after C after she broke up with him.
    So he pursues C while she is in a relationship with Lucas but not after she has dumped lucas for him and told him she loved him?? doesn’t make sense to me.
    I will not comment on the finale because it was just ridiculous, i wouldn’t even know where to begin.
    I have no hopes for season 8 since they have killed the only good thing (H&C, whether in a relationship or not was major reason i watched) we’ve been promised just more of the same. It is not enjoyable for me to watch a stagnant or repeating theme. It is just sad.
    So much potential has been dismissed. We could have seen H’s personality at work, with C and with Rachel, many different views of this character could have been explored.
    Oh well, time to rewind and go back to square one. i wonder if the writer is planning another 8 years?? I’m sure we’d be back with the same comments. Glad i’m off this psycho train.

  • Wonder

    A change was in the air very early in S6 and it smelled like involvement of the network. It was “leaked” that the network wanted to put “Huddy” off a season. From earlier interviews with DS and KJ, they had something planned for that relationship. Suddenly the networks wanted to play a power game and force a move. The writers had to go with it and it interrupted the narrative and started confusing the characters. The networks want production feats that bring awards and controversy that gets people talking. TPTB have given them that. Unfortunately, it seems to have hurt the original vision of House. They are trying to stay true to form, but something is off for them, too. It is an undercurrent in every interview.

    I don’t think “huddy” would have lasted in anybody’s vision, but because of the direction that was dictated in S6, S7 took a different path.

    It’s unfortunate. I wonder if we’ll ever know what the real vision for House was before the suits got involved.

  • Writer

    Ironically, most writers are not analyzing every detail and every angle for insights, justificiations and motives in the way of veiwers/readers. By this, I mean that fans/viewers are interpreting everything through their filter, their past, their experiences, and the story evolves for them. In sharing these thoughts, the story evolves to absorb all of these thoughs/ideas. In the beginning though, the writer is usually telling their story through their filter, their thoughts, their ideas. They try to insert universal truths and feelings; they try to leave some actions up to interpretation. Sometimes they just write what feels good for them and then later, when the fans have analyzed it they say “oh, well maybe that is why it felt right to me.”

    All of the going back and forth really isn’t going to change anything. It’s good to share thoughts and ideas on the episode, but the arguing and “encouraging” others to rewatch the episode doesn’t change anything. Most of the fans who are big enough fans to analyze and post of these forums have rewatched it and still feel passionately about their opinion. Some will change, but usually it is those who weren’t so “passionate” about the ending, but more confused, puzzled and lost. If you had a sense of “what just happened?” a rewatch will be a decisive factor.

    The reason a think-tank of writers is usually good for a show like this is because their are so many perspectives, angles, and yes, filters that will provide possible insights on how the story progression will be received. For some reason, it failed this time. Somewhere along the way, they didn’t see this extreme reaction (from both sides) coming. They anticipated a “metaphorical cliffhanger.” The team somehow didn’t see all sides, and now it’s coming to bite them.

    Perhaps it was arrogance, I’m not sure since many of these writers appear to be quite humble and caring (it’s actually the ones in power and behind the camera that are most offensive in this department). Perhaps it was that they were having fun with their story and really didn’t see that a lot of the audience was not having fun. They say they don’t listen to what fans have to say, but it would appear they do or they wouldn’t have people monitoring the forums, nor would they be responding so much. They just didn’t hear the fans. They put them in the catergory of “shipper” or “fangirl” or “radical” but never really heard any objectivity. Some of that is the fault of the fanbase because they don’t approach things objectively and calmly at times. It’s also their fault for not trying sort through the “noise” and get to the point.

    Barbara has done a good job of expressing concern and loyalty, yet staying neutral. That’s a good thing. Guess what? She’s being heard and she’s not getting invalidated.

    The reason great books become legendary is because they somehow address universal truth, emotions, deceptions, irrational behaviors and even violence in a way that keeps a large viewing/reading audience. They don’t alienate, but engage the fan even if they love to HATE it. This episode didn’t quite create that magic – or maybe it did. Next season will tell. The ratings for the first episode won’t be the tell. It will be the episodes 3-6. The first few episodes will only determine if they can realize that delicate balance again.

  • BrokenLeg

    96 @Sneaky Microbe

    I feel the same as you explain of yourself in your post. I’m a fan from the very first episode. I liked [H]ouse so much. This [H]ouse is not the one I loved and religiously watched every week. I did not need to read Internet blogs,- with Barbara’s exception, because I get her book-, until mid seven season. And I began to post in this one ( the only one) a few after BS. I’m intelligent enough to understood, accept and enjoy by myself a TV show that was very, very uncommon ( do you remember, “common is boring”?) and devilish good.

    But why I went to interchange opinions with other fans? Because something in [H] was changing, failing, becoming different ( to say it in soft words, and with my limited English).

    And it’s true : they (TPTB, DS&co) destroyed the show. My Greg House is now almost a killer, not the one lovely outsider and romantic anti hero I was attached to.

    But, as I’ve said in previous posts and posts in previous threads, I’m a “full half glass person” by nature, and an intuitive one. I’m watching and enjoying the really entertaining but ridiculous spectacle of the DS&Co on actual interviews, and watch the red alert ringing to them. I’m sure they are taking good notice of the anger of many worldwide ( outside US [H] is the hit show) fandom. And if they are not doing it by themselves, I can read between lines that some other at a high level of decision, has taken good notice and give some orders ( along with “scolding” someone).

    So, follow me and give them the benefice of the doubt. They was very good once. They will not wrote it again as discontinuous and bad as seven season. The one in charge (DS) will be really in charge every day, parking others projects out of his mind. The writers gang will function again as a team and not as a group of individuals doing their one by themselves as lately. And pay cuts will force them to focus really in good storylines and never more in stupid and expensive stuff, as the monster tracks, hookers festivals, night rodeos, musicals, bolivian scenarios, etc…And LE will come back for a “closure” or more from mid eight season, the H/W friendship will be stronger, etc..

    You are always free to choose, but THEY ( that “they” that you say) do not deserve that you feel now that way!!!! ….And we miss your comments.

  • It’s interesting (!) to see that House feels good about himself (according to Wilson’s interpretation of a “bar that reflects the way he feels inside) after what he did to Cuddy and Rachel et al. I have seen people respond this way… the compulsive glow of some weird inner triumph that has nothing to do with real self-awareness or transcendence of one’s areas of twisted-metal suffering. I wonder if in this next season, some way could be found to bring HOUSE’s MOTHER into the scene. She is the only one left, if you do not count his biological preacher father, who can offer him some explanation of what happened and why, and possibly give him some peace and help him to transcend the obvious torment of his childhood. She loves him. One can see that — and yet she didn’t protect him from his father. Could a confrontation with her help him learn more about himself? Is this 8th season to be a long journey back from this new insanity (though I do understand his rage– Cuddy had asked him to bring the brush and had said no new man would be there, in effect)– or is it to be a final spiraling down into some kind of no-return?
    Sherlock Holmes, when faced by MOriarty, took off for the East and spent time with the Dalai Lama, as I recall. Could House do some modern-day version of this?
    He can never practice medicine in NJ again, it would seem. Perhaps there is a way for him to redeem his actions by spending time using his genius in some other country that needs his help. Or can he rise from the place of non-existence in which he has placed himself?
    Thanks for reading this, if anyone bothered!

  • Oversimplified

    @79 Gabby
    I hated the ep where Cuddy used the tripwire on him. For me that was OOC too, but I still don’t see it as comparable to driving your car through someone’s home. For starters he was endangering not just her life, but the lives of other people who had nothing to do with what’s gone on between them. I’m sorry, but under no circumstances is that acceptable. What exactly had Rachel done to deserve her home being trashed, other than accept him for who he was and as someone she trusted? You think House has issues. Wait until Rachel grows up.

    On their relationship in general yes Cuddy’s known him for years, but there’s a difference between dealing with someone professionally and going into an intimate relationship with them. You learn much more about them and indeed yourself in that sort of proximity. I’m not justifying her actions. I think they both screwed up the relationship: Cuddy because she wasn’t realistic about her expectations and House because even though he knew where the pitfalls would be, he passively fell into them. He knew there was a very good chance he’d hurt her from past experience, and instead of deciding to learn from his mistakes he chose to fall back into his old patterns. That’s what I find most frustrating about House’s character and David Shore’s protestations that ‘House will never change’. Even monkeys learn to avoid pressing a button if it gives them an electric shock. House on the other hand just keeps on pressing it and hitting rock bottom.

  • SusanfromBrooklyn (aka Susan)

    96 – Sneaky Microbe – I agree with you too but I can’t stop hoping for a re-write of Cuddy back to her pre-season 6 character (and a renewal of her contract). I STILL haven’t watched Moving On, but I can’t say now that I won’t be watching next season – the masochist in me will probably creep over to the TV on that Monday in September for more misery.

  • SusanfromBrooklyn (aka Susan)

    #97 -Jane E – Ditto. With all the negative reviews the producers have to be feverishly trying to get LE signed up. The House Facebook page has alot of comments calling for Cuddy back, – one comment – even had 18 or more thumbs up after it.

    I’d love to hear an interview with LE and get into her head – but people are saying she probably has a gag order not to speak.

  • Jane E

    sorry hit the wrong button: Continued:
    I also felt the writers did this type of scene on purpose to permantely get Huddy out of the viewers minds which is unfair to their loyal viewers.

    The Taub storyline is absolutely ridiculous. A grown man in his 40’s who is a physician gets two girls pregnant. Get Real. Huddy vs this storyline, what are they thinking.

    I want House back on track. It is my favorite show, but as much as I love Hugh Laurie the directions they are taking, will probably loose my viewership. I think they should take a step back and re-evaluate the critical characters to their show and get Lisa Edelstein signed. They are going to be penny wise and dollar foolish for not signing her to a contract. She is part of the dynamic and from the Jaeger philosphy in the pilot, the only one for House. Now whether that is 3 years down the road or 3 months, Cuddy is a critical character in House.

  • Sneaky Microbe

    Just to throw in my 2 cents:
    TPTB tried to give Huddy fans a gift this season, and I appreciate that, but I agree with many that it was poorly executed. Then they ended it suddenly (“Bombshells”) and proceeded to make Cuddy out to be a miserable bitch. And then House lapses into a misogynistic downward spiral, culminating in aggressive violence directed towards the woman whom he has supposedly loved for years. I had watched for the medical stories as well as the House-Cuddy-Wilson dynamic, and all of that is now destroyed.

    Defend it as you will, I think they destroyed the show. They’ve upset a large percentage of fans and have much work cut out for them. For me, the show is no longer interesting, House is no longer likeable, and I’m done with the show. After being a devoted fan for many years.

  • josie

    Was Cuddy really portrayed out of character this season? She’s a 45-year-old woman who, except for Lucas and House, has never been in a long-term relationship. What did we know about her before Season 7? From 5 to 9, we learned she is the ultimate control freak. She acted as hospital administrator, human resources director, and lawyer! She did call all the shots during her relationship with both Lucas and House. Second, she has never been portrayed as someone is comfortable in emotional situations. She has allowed House, a drug addict, to continue working in her hospital for years! As House’s friend/boss, she should have forcecd him to deal with his drug addiction in some way–firing him, forcing him to go on sabbatical, counseling, mandatory drug screening tests. Instead, she does nothing. I assume she was afraid to do anything in fear that he would kill himself whether intentionally or not. Or perhaps, there’s only so far she can go in emotional situations? When she broke up with House, she “ran away” from him. You can’t control emotions, and when you’re a control freak, this may be very difficult to handle.

  • Nada

    I’d like to see House as a cook in season 8 (as Gordon Ramsay in Kitchen Nightmares), it could be funny, House insulting restaurant owners. Ok bad joke…

  • Thanks everyone for you (mostly) good, reasoned debate&madash;those who agree with me, and those who do not. I call it like I see it. Sometimes, when a show packs an emotional sucker punch, it’s better to watch from the distance of time as second time, which is what I wanted to do.

    I watched Teamwork last night, and that was truly an episode I didn’t get. It was probably my least favorite of Season 6, and House’s attitude toward his team and particularly Cameron and Chase was inexcusable. But I also didn’t like the way House’s manipulation of that relationship was crafted. House, the romantic, is all for saving relationships, not crashing them for the pure pleasure of seeing them crash. He just seemed too happy at the outcome.

    I’m saying this because in contrast, Moving On did get back to House as House–who he is (his flaws, his deep romanticism—and his denial of it, etc.) The ending to me as I said was probably more inevitable than I would have wanted to believe, but I understand it.

    I can’t wait to see what the writers (so many of whom have been with the series as long, if not longer, than many of us) come up with.

  • Julia

    87 – Merkof

    “But he also knows quite well that days ahead shall be difficult, and of course there is remorse mixed with those liberating feelings.”

    I ‘ve only seen the episode once, but this is my problem: I didn’t see him feeling remorse in the final scene at all. I just saw him liberated and content. As Shore said in his last interview (with tvline.com) “he does feel better, which to me means he got what he wanted out of that.”

    And while I get the reasons why he felt that way, I hated what he had done so much that I could not sympathize with him despite his motivations. The idea that to feel better, you can basically do whatever you want, no matter how criminal and wrong it is, is NOT OKAY for me.

    I guess it’s very subjective, it’s about how each of us saw the final scenes…. 🙂

    83 – Paula

    “A certain psychopath named Dexter – not that I watch the show – seems to keep his fans no matter what he does, so why can’t House?!”

    this is very interesting. I watch Dexter and it’s a great show, but the reason why I cannot really LOVE the series and the character is that he is a psychopatic killer. I can’t realte to him. And right now, I can’t relate to House too (ok, he didn’t kill anybody, so there’s still hope left 🙂 ).

  • But wait1

    #82, D-

    “So, when David Shore says House had latent homicidal tendencies, he’s not giving him a pass to be a destructive asshole.”

    The problem is, I think Shore IS giving House a pass to be a destructive asshole by saying that “[House] got what he wanted out of” doing what he did.

    The other problem is, he is vacillating between saying that House very possibly and probably has homicidal tendencies at that moment and then emphatically saying that he did not. (This is clearly shown in the two interviews quoted.) This also seems like Shore’s attempt to give House a free pass to do what he did because he realizes that a possibly homicidal House incited shock and rage amongst some viewers.

    Lastly, a show does not have to be about a good person who’s not homicidal to have to be entertaining, but it does have to make sense in terms of character development. To me, House’s actions did not make sense in this regard and that is why it was a huge turn-off.

    Endnote: It really is beginning to dawn on me that, as many people have said, if you have to explain away and justify an episode to this extent, then, the episode has failed.

    Why should one have to rewatch an episode, hoping to cling to some detail where one can make some sense of anything when the message should have been made more clear on the first viewing?

    I admit there were some House epidoses in the past that were so shocking that I had to watch them again to appreciate them, but I felt compelled to watch them because the first emotion was that of:
    “OMG, that was so shocking but such a good episode! I need to watch that again to see all the subtle details I might have missed.”

    For “Moving On”, I think, for certain people like me, it may be:
    “OMG, what the HECK was that? I need to watch that again to grasp onto something for me justify me continuing to watch this show.”

  • BrokenLeg

    78 @ True Grit

    Thanks fo your FORMIDABLE post!!! THIS!

    86 @ Sasha

    My previous posts in this thread is as yours:if one have to explain so hard his/her job is only because the job is not good. Everybody has the right to fail, and who do not work do not make mistakes, but at that moment,one must give away arrogance,and a big dose of humility is needed. And I do not see DS and Co humble people by themselves. Maybe they’ll be if forced by wordwide fandom and network executives.

    I think thatwriting a continuity TV show is a team working, as team sports are, but this year there were not a team, but a grup of individuals writing. And this is the result of that.

  • Leodie

    I haven’t given up on House yet.
    This coming from someone who hasn’t watched the show since Bombshells, finale included. Yes I know, but my poor little sensitive heart couldn’t take all the angst I knew was coming and did come. But i know what happened afterwards, reading about it mostly on this blog.

    I have my reservations about season seven. Mostly about Cuddy’s mischaracterization, a good part of the qualities (strength, independence, caring, understanding) I admired in her going mostly AWOL along with what made them good together when they paired H and C. There were good aspects in studying the difficulties these two might encounter but I regret it ended up being mostly that : an ascension of the Golgotha . I guess happy is what’s most difficult to write without being cheesy. I admired TPTB for venturing on this tricky path and I was wondering if they could do it convincingly. IMHO not really. But at least they didn’t totally blow it either. Did they not go the whole way for fear of alienating the “anti-Huddies” ? or write them “awkward” together to soften the blow of the break-up for the “Huddies” ?

    I disagree with all those who say that the writers should listen to what the audience has to say. According to me, great stories are written by talented people who tell the story they need to tell regardless of what people think of it. Are TPTB still in this frame of mind ? I hope so.

    Is what’s happening to H now unrealistic ? There are tons of examples around us of great and not so great deeply wounded people who did things to themselves and others worse than House, and couples who on paper were perfect for each other but failed. But this is House, a character so convincingly written that we’ve come to identify with him and his endless childish (in the noble sense of the term) quest : finding some meaning and acceptation in this chaos of a world. Our inner-child through House is being told that there is none. They’ve crashed our h(H)ouse, we’re grieving, one stage of grief is anger. That’s why I think that many criticisms towards TPTB right now are rather addressed to what’s happening to our champion than to the way it is being told.

    So now what ? Along with Hugh Laurie (yeah, aren’t we in sync) i am a “good writing whore”. The situation is dire, H is down to the barest of bare, not even one faithful sidekick around, no more “Huddy” thorn in any writer’s foot. Bring on the inspired and talented writing to wrap this show up in an awe inspiring way (please do not let it linger, it is on its last leg, everyone can see it). I’m ready.

    Kudos to you Barbara for one more insightful review and for waiting for things to settle before writing it. As far as i am concerned, you are considered part of the writers team since i have caught some aspects of the show through your hawk’s eye only.

  • smk46

    thank you again for your thoughtful analysis of the problem that is “moving on.” imo, the crux of the matter is this: if cuddy’s home had been uninhabited when house crashed his car into it, there would be no need for me to change my evaluation of the basic nature of house’s character and it would be simply that the man i have come to know and love over seven seasons has been pushed to a new level of despair. but, and this is a huge qualification, since it was not clear at all that the room house crashed into was empty of people and the whereabouts of rachel was unknown to house, this deliberate car crash changed my understanding of house’s character. his behavior shows depraved indifference to human life, and as such can be argued to be psychopathic. i can love a man who has been pushed to and past his limits by life and circumstance. i can’t love a man who doesn’t care if he kills someone because he is in pain himself.

    taking into account the writers’ and david shore’s explanations, i see that house is meant to be shown as certain that no one will will be physically hurt by his actions but that sure isn’t how the scene played. and because i saw with my own eyes how house didn’t know who was where, i don’t believe all the talk to the contrary. and unless some visual backpedaling is done at the beginning of season 8 to make it clear to me that house somehow was in possession of the knowledge that no one was going to get hurt or that he was in the throes of a psychotic break due to drugs, i am stuck with my new evaluation of him. and i do not like this new man. for me, if house isn’t at least likable, there is no point in watching the show. i think tptb have done everyone a huge disservice by their failure to communicate on screen what it was they meant to show. and now they have their work cut out for them reestablishing a character worth caring about. season 8 will be a real challenge; i hope the writers are equal to it.

  • merkof

    84 – Julia

    He is not “happy”. the “smile” is bittersweet.

    He is liberated (and I do not mean it in a happy-go-lucky way) because he finally and literaly broke any relation with Cuddy and so lessened his hurt by expelling his anger .

    At the same time he also severed his connection with PPTH, a major change in his life and that is what he wants: CHANGE!
    He probably did not know how to go about it, but Nolan at Mayfield thought that he should leave PPTH. He was right. At the time I felt it was a major mistake going back to the environment that led to his breakdown.

    I do not mean that he is thinking about Nolan; that is me. What I mean is that the repercussions of his act do not permit him to reprise his life as before. Everything is CHANGED, for better or worse, a new life is in front of him, something for which he does not have to plan or rationalize or agonize about. He does not even have to decide about making changes. It is done!

    Well, that is very liberating!

    But he also knows quite well that days ahead shall be difficult, and of course there is remorse mixed with those liberating feelings.

    Watch him again: It is not a wide joyful smile, just a small half-smile.
    What I find impressive is that his face is different: softer, less tense. less angular, more rounded.
    It is again a fabulous interpretation by HL who seems to have an extraordinary control of his face muscles that convey the inner state of mind of the character he plays.
    I also suspect that HL actually empathizes with House, that is why he portrays him in such a superb way.

  • Sasha

    “We are left stunned and confused at what has driven him (literally). The writers help explain his motivation,”

    I’m sorry Barbara, but if they have to explain it, it means it didn’t work.

  • Paula

    No.78 True Grit – Terrific post. I myself have now watched the finale 4 times, and each time got more out of it, and realised more and more how good it was. – little things lIke the hairbrush being in plain sight in his bathroom and not really needing to be found, I.e. House had obviously deliberately kept it, being something I missed on first view, just kept adding more dimension to the episode. In the same way I only grasped on later viewings that Cuddy is shooing her guests away from that area into the lounge (here is where I agree that better editing etc would have made this clearer to all). I recommend that those who have the facility to do so, and haven’t yet, should watch the episode again, and again if
    necessary, and like you and me True Grit, may see much more and realize what a good episode it was. HL was terrific in it (as always), and LE was pretty good – even RSL’s small crash site scene was brilliant in conveying his emotional hurt in a very understated way.

  • Julia

    My problem with the final scene is NOT that watching it, I had the impression that House wanted to kill anybody. Ok, so the writing and the direction/editing of the scene could have shown more clearly that Cuddy and her guests were leaving the room, but you could guess it, and I’m more than ready to accept the explanation that House just wanted to crash into an empty room.

    Also, my problem is NOT that I don’t understand his motivations. Barbara said that “some of House’s confused, complicated motivations might have been made clearer” and it’s true, but I guess the point is that this gesture was the result of a lot of different motivations and feelings. He probably wanted Cuddy to suffer the way he was suffering; he wanted to be free from Cuddy and Wilson’s annoying suggestions about what he was supposed to do or not; he wanted to do something so outrageous that she could never ever forgive him because this was actually the only way for him to move on; he probably wanted to release an anger that has much deeper roots than a relationship gone bad. All of this actually makes sense.

    Also, my problem is NOT that it’s OOC for House to do something like this. I think that basically everyone, under particular circumstances, can do very bad things; and House has never been a particularly well-balanced guy.

    My main problem on the contrary IS that…. I don’t like this choice. My favourite tv character crashing into his ex girlfriend’s house is simply NOT something I wanted to see on my tv screen. And critics and writers can explain whatever they want, but I still won’t like it. This gesture is and will always remain deeply disturbing to me, no matter how they resolve the storyline in S8. At the moment, I feel like my sympathy for the character is gone.

    # 82 – D says:
    “I just don’t subscribe to the notion that characters have to be likable– let alone good people who don’t commit attempted homicide– for a story to be entertaining.”
    I know, but this is exactly the point. I can agree that this was a legitimate choice for the writers – to have the main character doing something very borderline and very disturbing. Ok. But to me, it’s not entertaining to see a character I love doing something so despisable and wrong.

    Also, my second problem is the last scene.
    Quoting #82 – D again
    “Shore never said House’s behavior was acceptable, or even good”.
    No matter what Shore says, in the last scene of the episode we see House almost ‘happy’ for what he has done. The message, for me, was ‘ehi, you feel angry? your girlfriend was a bitch? ok, go destroy her house and you’ll feel a lot better’. This scene seemed to justify him and his gesture just because it was good FOR HIM.
    I’m sure that in S8 there will be consequences and that the series will point out that what House did was very wrong. But FOR NOW, the last scene we got is House being perfectly content and liberated after doing something totally wrong.

  • Paula

    glad to have your thoughts on the finale, had wondered where you were and kept checking the site to see if you had written anything! You were probably right to leave time to digest before writing anything. Like most I was stunned at the car crash and so surprised at the final scene, but I had thought the finale – and for me it was really a two parter as I felt After Hours was really part of it – was overall terrific, both in the way each episode was written, and of course so terrifically acted. Obviously we all now know that the subsequent decision by LE to leave the show means the writers have somewhat coed themselves into a corner, and it is going to be a major accomplishment if they can extricate the character from this mess in a way which makes sense and bring our hero back to the fans he has lost. (A certain psychopath named Dexter – not that I watch the show – seems to keep his fans no matter what he does, so why can’t House?!) I hasten to say I am NOT one of those. I still love him with all his flaws, still love the show and think a lot of S7 was terric, both in writing, acting and himour, and am eager to see what happens in S8, not
    only in respect of the legal consequences of his actions, but the psychological as well, and also if this has destroyed the Hilson friendship beyond repair. I am a diehard fan who is in it for the long haul and

  • D

    #24 – But wait1:

    “I’d like to see any court, even an imaginary one in fictionland that tries to emulate reality in some way, find in favor of someone whose conduct, circumstance, and result all satisfy AT LEAST a negligently criminal mental state. If anything, TPTB are arguing that House knowingly controlled his actions. Knowledge is a HIGHER criminal standard than negligence or recklessness and makes him MORE liable, not less. I can’t believe that they don’t know this, so it really does sound like they’re trying to backpedal with words and grasping at straws to fix something that they should have put more thought into. (I mean, because, a lot of research goes into all the episodes, right?)”

    I’ve seen this pop up a lot. My main problem with the “court” argument is that Shore never said House’s behavior was acceptable, or even good. In fact, the show has, from the very beginning, tried its hardest to keep morality as subjective as possible. So, when David Shore says House had latent homicidal tendencies, he’s not giving him a pass to be a destructive asshole. It explains it, but it doesn’t make it right, and no one from the show who has done an interview has said that(I challenge you to find one who did). This whole “that wouldn’t hold up in court!” parroting parallels the second season episode with LL Cool J playing the patient who was in prison for murdering three people, one of which was his wife, and the final diagnosis was too much adrenaline being pumped into his body. Foreman decides to testify in court about getting him off death row; he believes his “biology” couldn’t hold him accountable for what he did. House says that’s bullshit.

    I just don’t subscribe to the notion that characters have to be likable– let alone good people who don’t commit attempted homicide– for a story to be entertaining.

  • True Grit

    @79 – Gabby
    @80 – maria-eleni

    Thank you for your kind words. The new perspective I had while re-watching “Moving On” is my attempt to make sense of those extraordinary events in the season finale in order to continue loving [H]ouse. I focused my entire attention on House and Cuddy (Hugh Laurie and Lisa Edelstein), and I think they both did a wonderful job with their emotionally stressful interactions throughout the episode. They helped me come up with this new vision.

    I loved the way the writers described during their interview with Barbara the circumstances that drove House (pun intended) to his moment of craziness. I also loved how they described his feelings and his reactions to what those closest to House expected from him. And how the POTW affected him. I can also understand why they wanted to have House commit such an incredibly insane thing to eliminate the possibility of getting back together with Cuddy or having any other significant interactions with her.

    On my second watch of this episode, I figured out the symbolic meaning of the hairbrush and of House’s decision to “deliver” it to her in the destructive way that he did. I also understand how things got crazy in his mind when he saw Cuddy with a new man. At that moment his peaceful intentions of just accepting their breakup and moving on suddenly disappeared in an escalation of anger, because House, being who he is, could only imagine the worse from what he saw during that dinning scene.

    The writers make it clear in their interview how different reality is and always has been for House, compared to the perspectives of others. That window, which separates their two realities (his and Cuddy’s), it’s the same one through which he had watched her at the end of “The Itch,” unable to enter her world. Now, this same window is once again a frontier away from the one he loves who, in his eyes, is able to REALLY move on. And of course, this is the final straw for him which he cannot handle anymore and which propels him to crash his car into her home to “take control” over his emotions. He just needs to know there will be no coming back from this, no hope for him and Cuddy. I don’t think he does it rationally, I think the inner darkness he suppressed for years (decades?) finally took over.

  • maria-eleni

    78 – True Grit
    79 – Gabby

    Wonderful & frustrating !!

    Thank you.I do not feel so isolated any more.

    You also save me the trouble of writing down almost the same thoughts as you.

    My frustrated mind however has to find adifferent angle to write about.

  • Gabby

    @76 – Oversimplified:

    Do you really want to say that Cuddy wanted to help House by bringing him to fall with a tripwire and that she didn’t plan to install the tripwire? Since when are tripwires like this one in the episode “The Greater Good” installed unintentional? To install the tripwire was a planned deed and not a deed done by accident. The same goes with the stolen cane, setting the elevators out of order so that he has to climb the stairs, the thanksgiving goose chase, replacing the vicodin with laxatives and many other things.
    Those actions are even more severe when you take into consideration that Cuddy is a doctor.

    By the way, House could have injured himself severely during the fall because of the tripwire and he could have fallen down the stairs since his bad leg is highly instable because of the missing thigh muscle.
    I normally don’t tell such private stories in an open area of the internet, but I think I have to tell you one to make you understand that you can really hurt yourself very bad by simply falling down and even more if someone tripped you.
    A close relative of mine has broken two lumbar vertebras just by slipping and falling on the wet floor. He almost would have become a paraplegic because of that. He managed to learn to walk again after that, but he only could walk short distances with the help of a cane because one of his legs went into spasm while walking because of the remaining nerve damage.

    House isn’t a saint and Cuddy is not an angel.

    Cuddy underestimated her own ability to cope with him? She has known him for far over 20 years and has been in contact with him again since the date of the infarction at the latest. In addition to that she has had six seasons to deliberate if she is able to cope with him in a relationship or not.

    @78 – True Grit: Thank you for your wonderful post!

  • True Grit


    I just wanted to say that I saw “Moving On” a second time (watched it with my partner to get his opinion of it), and I got a completely new perspective of the whole thing. I’ll try to type it down and come back here to explain myself better, but I wanted to tell those of you who didn’t have the heart to watch the finale a second time that it’s worth doing it.

    As you and others have already mentioned, I think the POTW is the key for what House does in the end before, during, and after ramming his car into Cuddy’s dinning room. The POTW had chosen House not to diagnose her (she already thought she knew what she had) but to make of him her new “piece of art.” All the things that she did in the name of artistic expression were beyond crazy, but that was how she could deal with her awful past. I had to ruminate over her interactions with House and find the words to express myself, but basically, the POTW wanted House to do the same as her, to deal with his own myriad issues.

    House passes during “Moving On” from his sane resolution of making himself healthier to committing the craziest (and perhaps deadliest) stunt he’s ever done before. He struggles all those days (three days as we are made to know) after his attempt at self-surgery in the penultimate episode to do the right thing, including putting a proper end to his hopes of getting back into a relationship with Cuddy. Even though he told Cuddy’s mother that they will not get back together, the fact that he had her stuff is proof that he couldn’t completely detach from her; he gave her back almost everything, but still kept her hairbrush. Each time he sees Cuddy, he seems to struggle to stay calm and not get overwhelmed by her presence. Each time she leaves, he takes Vicodin. He tries very hard NOT TO HURT anyone while he’s still (as he will tell Cuddy later) hurting deeply. Everybody seems to worry for him and to want to support him, but no one has any real clue about what he’s dealing with.

    The similarities and interactions between him and the POTW are the catalyst of the final events of “Moving On.” And both of them are proven wrong in the end. House is fascinated by this woman who risks her life and integrity each time she leaves her body at the mercy of her public. Later, he’s even more intrigued by her choices: the POTW broke up with her boyfriend/assistant when she discovered that she was dying. She didn’t want him to suffer seeing her die. She thought if they were not lovers anymore, it would make her death easier for him to handle. What she didn’t consider was that he continues to love her and will suffer even more, because her medical crisis added to the fact that he couldn’t manifest his love and support for her anymore.

    Is this a parallel situation with how House reacted when he thought Cuddy would die?

    We still don’t know what was the ultimate goal of the POTW’s decision to seek out House, but when she finds out that she might be cured but would end up compromising her artistic abilities due to the radiation treatment affecting her mental concentration, she chooses what House would have always done before being in his relationship with Cuddy: better die than ruin what made her special, what defined her.

    House likes her even more.

    Meanwhile, the two people House loves the most in the world (Wilson and Cuddy) remain clueless about his emotions and continue to push his buttons without having the slightest idea of the ticking time bomb before them: Cuddy loves House even though she broke up with him, and she’s stuck as her sister noticed. A part of her wishes that the “laws of the Universe” might change and she could somehow work things out with House. She has given up on their personal relationship, but she’s not ready to give up on him: she still cares about him and her strategy of ignoring and avoiding him only served to fuel House’s decision to “fix” his leg in order to somehow regain a degree of control over his life. Cuddy’s afraid for him and as she doesn’t understand what’s happening in his head and his soul, thousands of scenarios haunt her and she wants to be sure she will not let something even worst happen to him, especially after everything she witnessed in “After Hours.” She wants him to open up to her, thinking that his anger and self-destructive acts are linked to their breakup while trying very hard to talk about the nearly unmentionable. Their lunch scene is quite awkward; we see in House’s question if Cuddy is dating someone that he hopes she isn’t, and we see in her response that she’s nowhere near ready to move on from him. And then, he reminds her how easily he reads her and leaves the cafeteria. But she won’t let him go, and there’s that beautiful scene in the hallway where he finally confesses that he’s still hurting. With their hands clasped together in a manner highly reminiscent (perhaps purposely?) of that romantic moment between them at the end of “Help Me,” House tells her that “it’s not [her] fault.” Why is he doing this? I didn’t understand the first time I saw it, but now I think that maybe it’s because he sees in her eyes that she’s in pain, too, and he simply can’t stand to witness her hurting. He doesn’t want her to suffer anymore, so he tries to absolve her of any lingering guilt over their messy breakup.

    Or he thinks he did. I believe the emotions they both felt as those hands melted into each other are paradoxically what made Cuddy look for a new date. Like I said she is not ready to let go of House, but she is even less ready to give it another try. So she tries to move on. Although she is nowhere interested in that new guy, she just doesn’t want to think about her feelings for House anymore. I’m sure she would have never had a second meeting with that guy, much less a date with him, but THAT day, she desperately needed to take a step away from her feelings for House.

    When she told House she wanted her hairbrush back, it was her way of telling him that he couldn’t lie to her, she knew he couldn’t let go either. That brush was an item House needed to keep, like a talisman. It could have been any other item, but it’s interesting as a choice; it has no overt sexual connotation yet has purely romantic undertones, reminding him of how it used to caress the hair of the woman he loves.

    Coming back to the patient, when she finds out that she can be cured and decides she won’t compromise her artistic abilities over saving her life, House approves of her decision. He sees in her choice the “right” one; he himself was ready to let go of his own gift as a healer in order to be with someone who eventually left him anyway. It seems like a lame choice to the audience, but to House it’s better to count only on yourself and not risk losing what made you “unique” for some illusion/dream of happiness. In fact, House felt betrayed by the same woman who once called him “the most incredible man [she’s] ever known” and by his own desires, feeling that he not only lost his last chance at happiness but also the friendship he enjoyed with Cuddy before they got involved with each other. Their scene in the cafeteria illustrated how difficult it would be to get their once-formidable friendship back. They can’t even talk anymore and Lord knows how Cuddy and Wilson were the only ones with whom he could emotionally express himself in a semi-functional manner. But now, he is feeling particularly misunderstood after a string of personal setbacks. He’s always been misunderstood to an extent, but the continuous claims of his friends for him to act normal are driving him crazy. House took tremendous steps this season toward what they wanted from him and at any little false note, they were acting like he had achieved nothing. Even on his good days he was not getting any credit. The perpetual “why is nobody able to believe I can do something nice?” and their perpetual answers (“experience”) ultimately led him to assume that his past is his damnation.

    When House finds out that the patient changed her mind, he is even more angry; his only “ally,” the only person who seemed to understand what was the “right” choice to make for people as damaged as they both were, was finally choosing to give a chance at happiness, just like he did nearly one year ago. What is his intention when he leaves the hospital? What is his intention when he drives to Cuddy’s to give her the last thing that reminded him of her presence at his place? Did he decide to really move on from her? Or did he decide to give it another try? To fight to get her back? Did he decide the POTW was right in the end, or not?

    I don’t really know; I can only say is that when he sees Cuddy with that man, in that very moment, he probably assumes the very worst about her motivations during their “talk,” thinking that she lied to him; she, who always made a big deal out of not lying, she, who seemed so guilty over having hurt him, she, whom he loved so much and for whom he had been ready to give up everything just to be with her.

    Now imagine that there was no one else present during the dinning room scene, just House and Cuddy in that singular moment. Perhaps, that’s what reality was reduced to from House’s perspective with the others only serving to reveal to him the ugliness of his situation. House is already broken, completely out of his comfort zone, and doesn’t even consider giving her hairbrush back. He simply leaves; he wants to be alone, he wants to run far away from everything, he wants to escape from this reality which crushes him. So he makes Wilson get out of his car, because he doesn’t know what he’ll do next. But then, he finally decides to DEAL with his emotions as nearly everyone around him as been admonishing him to do in the aftermath of the breakup with Cuddy. He decides not to hide anymore from his pain, his suffering, his humiliation. He choices to “deliver” the last item of his love, deciding it’s useless to hope when everything is already lost. And he certainly delivers: there are no walls, there is no house, there is nothing else in this universe past him and her. And after he crashes his car into her home, he stops just in front of her, delivering his pain, his anger, his humiliation in the form of that hairbrush, the last relic of their relationship.

    There is no way back. There is no hope anymore. There are no expectations from him and anyone else, for that matter. House lets go of everything and everyone in the process. As reflected in that final beach scene, his personal universe is literally and metaphorically empty now, waiting to be recreated from scratch or left as is for the moment. Shore and Co. certainly have their work cut out for them before filming starts in August for Season 8.

  • nitemar

    64-@BrokenLeg–Yea, I heard he did the driving–only reason for me to watch that scene again.

  • Oversimplified

    @ 72 Gabby.

    To me though there is a difference in that when Cuddy’s hurt House it’s generally been unintentional or stemmed from a sense of wanting to help him. Going back to the infarction what Cuddy did probably saved his life, and ironically is what House would almost definitely have done had it been his patient: since when did the threat of malpractice stop him eh? There’s double-standards at work there…

    When she said to him that she didn’t want him to change at the start of season 7 it wasn’t that she lied to him, but rather that she underestimated her own ability to cope with him. The only thing she’s guilty of there is not knowing herself well enough. That’s not the same as willfully going out of your way to hurt someone emotionally and potentially physically.

  • housefriend

    The House Cuddy “relationship” could have beed explored and wrapped up in one or two episodes,The whole tedious beginning of the season drove many viewers away and for the first time I was bored by House.Say anything you want about the finale but it was NOT BORING, DS finally getting the show back on track Last few episodes have been exciting, Despite it all the only real relationship here is House and Wilson,That has always been the love story in the classic sense,But no matter how you view it ,its already been established(by the writers) as the most important relationship House has, At the end of the finale we see Wilson in shock but again ready to help.Cop wants to know where House is and Wilson concerned-“are you going to arrest him?” I believe he purposely steered them wrong A place to match his mood? Wilson knows him better than anyone,He saw House immediately after ! He may not know where he went but its not some hole in the wall bar!! Next season is looking good!!

  • 2Lightworker

    “it wasn’t the car crash that got me. It was the tiny smile that House, after returning the hair brush and walking out the front door (and I believe assessing that everyone was physically ok, at the very least), gave to Wilson as he almost strut by.”

    Yes! That’s what I referred to in my post on the writers’ interview about Hugh’s comic brilliance, reminiscent of ABOFAL – just needed Stephen Fry to finish him off.

    “This finale pushed the “House has to change” envelope. I wish we could just get off that treadmill after all these years and just start getting to the heart of House. I could write a paper on all the things the writers, DS and GY have said that suggest that won’t happen. And with the clear direction of dealing with consequences, we are back on that treadmill, dealing with the results of his actions and not really getting to the root. We can hope that they will in S8, but really? With the consequences to address, then the normal deflection and fight and arrogance that must play out to keep House real, can they get to the root in one season? Won’t it be rushed and weak? It honestly should have started in S6 and been a three season unravelling. But those were missed opportunites, IMO…and in the eyes of many critics.”


    Fewer B-stories and distractions, more focus on House’s process. When I rewatched “After Hours” in rerun, I found the other stories annoyingly distracting from what was happening with House, even with the parallels to his process and situation. Hugh will rise to superb performance of whatever the writers give him, but I am not as confident as I would like to be about the content of future scripts. He deserves far better than what’s been dished out of late.

  • bigHousefan

    Blacktop 71

    I always enjoy reading your comments, and I echo the following:

    “I had hoped we would get into this meaty exploration through the device of House’s relationship with Cuddy in season 7, but Shore and Co chose to ignore or deflect from these vital questions in favor of more shallow and shocking twists.”

    Its as if they made a point to avoid it! I’ll never understand why these very creative and longtime writers of the show took that path. The relationship and planned breakup could have been told and sold in a more plausible way through stories that reflected their long and ‘uncommon’ friendship. Yep, still bitter…

  • Gabby

    @ 61 – Betty:
    I second your opinion except for the detail that I love the episode “After Hours”.

    For me House is not homicidal and not a domestic abuser. I think that he finally snapped was a result of the anger and letdown about the people in his life, which he has gathered through his lifetime until back to his childhood days.
    With this action, he wanted to throw Cuddy out of his life so that she will never hurt him and his heart again.
    By the way, I have seen the episode the same way the writes did explain in Barbara Barnett’s and David Shore’s interviews, even before I have read them. It only has been a confirmation about my opinion regarding the events in the episode.
    Yes, House should face consequences, for what he did. IMO, he needs to go back to some kind of therapy and / or do some social work.

    But, please don’t forget that Cuddy has hurt House during the series over and over again, too.
    Before the series even started, she respectively her team of doctors ruined his health / leg via malpractice and treated him against his wishes, while he was in a medical induced coma.
    In season one, episode Detox, she forced him into cold turkey with a bet. Yes, it has been Wilson’s idea, but Cuddy was the one who accomplished the Mission. And as House’s boss, she should have stopped the action immediately when House has broken his fingers out of pure desperation because of his excruciating pain.
    In season two, episode Skin Deep, she tricked him with a placebo and after he comes to her the second time, she didn’t help him at all with his pain.
    At the beginning of season three, episodes Meaning and Cane and Able, she lied to him about the treatment regarding his patient and that at a moment, where he has already been in a vulnerable state. Yes, it has been Wilson’s idea again, but Cuddy was the one who accomplished the Mission again. And since she was House’s and Wilson’s boss, she was responsible.
    I won’t even start a list about Cuddy’s behaviour during the Vogler and Tritter arc.
    She temporary has given his parking space to someone else.
    Then she replaced House’s Vicodin with Laxatives and forced a man, who has trouble walking and for whom every single step is a painful task, to go to the men’s room over and over again.
    In season five she continued with her pranks, she stole his cane, installed a tripwire, set the elevators out of order and placed a stink bomb in House’s office. And her support regarding the methadone therapy has been non existent at the beginning. She only began to support House as he quits his job at PPTH.
    In season six, she broke the doctor patient confidentiality with telling Lucas about House’s Hallucinations and time at Mayfield. After that she sent him on a six hours long thanksgiving goose chase to a wrong address.
    In season seven she lied to him several times. The biggest lie has been that she didn’t want him to chance. During his relationship with Cuddy he has done everything to please her and he twisted himself into knots to do so. And instead to be happy about the fact that House has done something against his pain, which didn’t involve narcotics or other pain medication, Cuddy even has the guts to forbid him to go to the massage therapist, who helps him the best with his leg pain. Then she left him after his FIRST relapse, which he has done in order to be there for her.
    And then she began to make him false hopes regarding a reconciliation with the letter in “After hours” and later in “Moving on” only to date some else as soon House has said to her, that it was not her fault in the hallway of the PPTH.
    Until “Moving On” House has never done something that could harm her physically. He only has attacked her verbally, while Cuddy has attacked him physically many times.

    Yes, what House has done in “Moving on” was over the line, but if you put together what Cuddy has done to House over the last seven seasons, then I think that they are almost equal.

    @Barbara Barnett: Please continue to review House M.D. in season 8!

  • Blacktop

    Barbara, thank you for the clarity and compassion of your observations. As always, they are clarifying.

    These are my questions:

    I wonder if the writers, Director Yaitanes, and David Shore actually intended that the ending of the finale would be so ambiguous? Did they hope that a large portion of the audience would believe that House had turned into a violent, destructive threat to the people he loves?

    Or did they believe they were presenting a clear depiction of a heroic individual pushed past his limit and snapping violently in a justifiable effort to break free of the damaging emotional clutches of his friends?

    It seems to me that Shore and Co. Wanted us to see the latter position only. Their stunned reactions to audience outrage suggests to me that TPTB were expecting us to see it their way. They seem never to have seriously considered the other possible interpretation.

    If I am correct, this seems to me to be a terrible indictment of the creative processes in the House writers room. A solid, probing examination of both the script and the edited film might have enabled the show runners to make changes that would have tightened their presentation of the story.

    They could have clarified House’s mental state as he drove into Cuddy’s dining room. They could have sharpened the editing of crucial elements of that scene to indicate clearly that Cuddy and her family had left the house and were not in danger when House plunged through the window.

    The fact that they did not take these critical steps to sharpen their message means that either TPTB thought things were clear enough…or they did not care to make us see it their way. In my view this is clumsy storytelling. We should not need repeated and lengthy exposition from Shore and the writers in order to understand the meaning of that final scene.

    The lack of foresight is also disturbing in what it suggests awaits us next season. By choosing the most violent possible rupture to House’s relationships with Cudfy and Wilson, Shore has closed off many of the most plausible story lines for season eight. What is left is yet another examination of House serving out a debt to society or restlessly confined to rehab again. Given the premise of the show (doctor in hospital solving cases with a team) we are not going to see House away from PPTH for long. Nor will he be separated from his team for more than an episode or two.

    Having to spend valuable storytelling time with House facing some kind of harsh repercussions, means that we will lose opportunities to get deeper into the inner workings of House himself. We need to see him honestly confront his physical pain, his drug addiction, his emotional avoidance issues, his trust issues, his parental issues.

    I had hoped we would get into this meaty exploration through the device of House’s relationship with Cuddy in season 7, but Shore and Co chose to ignore or deflect from these vital questions in favor of more shallow and shocking twists.

    Seeing how they handled the opportunities of season seven with a heavy-handed reliance on distasteful ploys designed to shock rather than illuminate does not make me excessively hopeful that this same creative team will delve deeply or sensitively into House’s character in the upcoming season.

    I hope I am wrong. But I have the sinking feeling that ” Kaboom” will once again be the favored motif for season eight.

  • Meena!!! So good to hear from you again!

    Thanks for stepping in with your comments. Interesting observation about that wan smile. I’ll have to take another look.

    Jen–I’m in no way presuming to speak for anyone but myself. My use of “we” was in context of what I believed the producers/writers of the show expect us to see. I thought I had made it very clear that I was speaking only for myself — and perhaps others who saw it the same way I did.

  • bigHousefan

    If we get a chance in Season 8 to see House deal with his pain, life, loss, etc without Wilson’s nagging and lecturing and Cuddy’s hovering and mothering (they genuinely had his best interests at heart, but often did more damage than good) it might finally give us a new perspective and a new chance to learn more about House’s past through an unfiltered lens. Son of a Coma Guy is an example of one of those great episodes where as the story unfolded we got a great glimpse at how House views himself, and how he perceives he is viewed by others. Wouldn’t that be awesome?

  • Meena


    It’s been AGES since I’ve commented on this website – and I hope you’re still reading the comments this far down – but I really like your take on the finale this season. The betrayal idea was an angle I definitely didn’t pick up!

    The reason I haven’t really written anything here (though I read you religiously) is that I haven’t felt like there was anything to really ponder or write about, since the ending of Broken, way back at the start of Season 6. Honestly, that scandalized me more than the ending of this season – I thought it a tepid panacea for what was a complicated, interesting, morally-ambiguous start to season 6.

    Since then, the direction of House has been all too predictable. I figured out right then that House and Cuddy would be together by the end of the season. I could tell that the Help Me POTW was going to die by the first frame. I found it powerful & beautifully done, but not ponder-able, which is why I’m having a hard time conjuring other episodes from that season in my head (though I could give you a play-by-play of every season’s episodes up until then).

    Season 7 was even worse. I felt the House-Cuddy pairing needed to happen (full disclosure: not a ‘shipper’ in any regards whatsoever) but it honestly had no spark. They should have never left the bed that first day, or said a word to each other – that would have been interesting, a silent dance. There was more metaphorical sex in Ugly and Who’s Your Daddy than in any of their actual relationship – now, those scenes revved the engines a bit (no pun intended).

    But, the ending of season 7, I am thinking over this now, though it wasn’t the car crash that got me. It was the tiny smile that House, after returning the hair brush and walking out the front door (and I believe assessing that everyone was physically ok, at the very least), gave to Wilson as he almost strut by.

    People do bad things all the time, knowing they are bad. In my past, I’ve had a parent drive me home from a friend’s house on a Friday night, when maybe they’d had one glass of wine too many – and they are wonderful, caring, good parents that I feel blessed to be raised by (a long time ago). I’ve done a few things I’m ashamed of, like anyone, but I am certain no one would describe me as a bad person in the slightest.

    But when does this cross the line? At one very foul deed? At ten? Do good and bad deeds cancel each other out? How can one bad moment color everything, and should it? What is the difference between redemption and atonement? Hmm…

    I completely get why people won’t be watching the show next year, but I am really interested to see where they take this (and please, make next year a solid final year!). If at the very end House turns out to be the Staten Island serial killer, though, to what end? This show is a fable, after all…not just an excuse for nihilistic plunder of a witty, ambiguous, enigmatic and charismatic character.

    I will say that I do think the pacing was off on this episode – more an issue of editing than writing. The only thing, though, regarding the writing that would have made me even more incredulous, with a hat-tip, is if he returned her lipstick instead of the brush.

  • Jen

    And please Barbara, when you wrote you opinion use “I” not “we” because I don’t recognize myself in that “we” you kept using. Thanks

  • Jen

    Oh my, it’s just a tv show guys and after two weeks you’re still here complaing about the same old things! If you don’t like it don’t watch it anymore, that’s what I did when the asinine huddy thing started! For how long are you going to whine about it?

  • Rollit

    Everyone is just repeating the same opinions over and over and over and over and over and over…………zzz

  • BrokenLeg

    62 @ nitemar

    That is both,a detail of bad writing and bad directing!!Along with not even foresee people reaction about possible DV, let failures or lapsus in the storytelling that if not existed will let understood better the last 10 minutes (House had no way to know Rachel was not at home, for example; Cuddy was hurted too hours before because the “wall scene”, so it’s difficult to have fun in a dinner or party after that, etc..)
    But it’s a god demonstration of HL driving skills!!

  • BrokenLeg

    59 @ Cardiac Monitor

    You’re right!!It’s so funny to see him that way. I’s new!1 Really entertaining.It seems someone has given him a good “scolding”.
    I bet you this season he has wages according objectives ( he has renewed contract this season too):-))))
    If it serve to redirect things in the good way!!

  • nitemar

    So House crashed his car,a 1990’s Dodge into his ex’s-house, and the car had no dent, and his occupant came out with no bruises…hmm what’s wrong with this picture?

  • Betty

    Barbara brought up a couple of key points for me and they are House feels too much and the writers took a risk in the ending. I can now see where they were trying to go w/ this, but the last few eps all felt like a setup to this shocking ending to help reset the character and the show. It all felt contrived including the POTW’s and the dialogue between House and Cuddy/WIlson. I think I’m in the minority and didn’t particularly care for “After Hours”. What the writers failed to foresee for the finale was the backlash of the crash. Why it didn’t seem to occur to them that some viewers would see that as domestic violence is beyond me (the police officer even said “domestic situations”). I just don’t think they were thinking of the possible repercussions much like House the character. I keep nodding in agreement w/ many of the comments posted. What then happens after the beach scene? Again I don’t think the writers were really thinking about the aftermath when they wrote the script. Plus DS felt the need to explain and backpedal about the crash in interviews which shows to me that they did not expect such a reaction from part of the audience.

    What would have worked better for me anyways, is a clear indication that no one was in the house at all, like a shot of Cuddy, Rachel, etc. in the driveway about to get in the car to go out for dinner and House just driving up to see this. The impression I got was that House never intended to do any kind of harm until he heard say Wilson to let it all out or the like and that w/ Cuddy saying the same thing probably kept repeating in his head. And House reacting impetuously. The thing that bothered House the most from what I got out of the scene was not so much Cuddy was seeing another guy but that he felt like an outsider once again, and he wanted to get back at her on a personal level. This character has been known for his loneliness and I think that has contributed to some extent to his misery and misanthropy. But I believe that a person can be alone (i.e. not be in a romantic relationship) and yet not feel lonely. The flip side can also happen whereby a person can be married for thirty years and still feel lonely. Stacy had a similar feeling w/ House and ultimately that drove her away from him. But after “Broken” when he made a connection w/ Alvie, Lydia, et al. House felt he could be in a meaningful relationship w/ Cuddy.

    What would be great to see at this point imo is House standing on his own two feet emotionally w/ no enablers and be ok w/ being alone and not feel lonely but feeling content and at peace and still feel that his talent has not been compromised. But as we’ve seen w/ the writers I don’t think they’re brave enough to go there. “Broken” is about as brave as they are willing to go. It seems to me that DS and co are being awfully myopic in their vision. It just wouldn’t surprise me as some have commented previously that there will be little exploration of the consequences of House’s actions in S8. But I will be watching to see what they come up w/.

  • BrokenLeg

    I’ve said all I want to say about my thoughts, the characters and the last episode in previuos threads,the one about the meeting with scribs, the other LE departure, etc.. in this same blog, so I do not repeat myself again.

    But I really believe TPTB wanted to finish with the famous KA-BOUM or bang( their risky option),and designed to it all the second half of season, the worst part with “After Hours” exception,without evaluating correctly the further consequences.
    And now things have gone too far and too much out of their hands.

    So they are doing a lot of interviews as lately DS one with EW,attempting to remedy it, ridicously praying fans to stay and remain with faith, follow them, etc..
    And choruses in such pathetic way by one of the writers of the season final “Moving On”, that fantastic mind that wrote it such way (I think really bad)and let so many loose ends in it, that many viewers saw something very different to what he wrote.
    Helped by a Ka-Boum GY direction and very bad editing ( watch the chandelier of Cuddy’s house after the crash, at first takes at the floor, late ones on the ceiling…!!)

    To me, when someone has to explain so many times his/her job, it only means the job was not well done,simply that.And the first step to ammend the situation is forget arrogance, and recognize own mistakes.

    But frankly, I believe every time DS and Co opens their mouth things get worse.

    I think someone, not necessary DS and the gang, but upper network executives, now have take good notice that the way the show ends recently it’s not a good one, and that now [H] is in a difficult way to recover,mantain or increase viewers( and with so, are risking their money bussiness)
    And the alarm bell finally has sounded!!

    DS is the creator of the show, but it’s not its owner.A show creator need someone’s money to produce it, a show needs an audience, and TV stations make money with shows. No audience, no money, no TV show!!

    And thank you Barbara for this blog and the debate you let us. But I must say you that this time I do not agree fully with your point of view. I share all your questions, but not most of your answers.

  • Cardiac Monitor

    My fellow bloggers’ good opinions notwithstanding, I’m just enjoying watching DS implode as he desperately back-peddles and rationalizes the big “kaboom!” Its been more entertaining than the show itself.

    Speaking of “kaboom,” GY has been uncharacteristically quiet since the fallout hit the fan, hasn’t he? Anybody got any 411 on him?

  • Artgirl

    Hi Lucy.

    You said, “I’m not saying House is or will become an abuser. I am saying that it is not a ridiculous conclusion for some people to draw. It is open to interpretation, so there’s no reason to get angry about that term being used.”

    I’m not angry about the term being used; I’m angry that the writers of the show have, in their interviews, tried to pass this incident off as NOT being domestic violence, when by any objective standpoint (such as the ones that applied when it was your own family, and I’m so sorry you had to go through that), that is precisely what it was.

    The fact that they don’t see it or won’t acknowledge it bothers me perhaps even more than the fact that they filmed it and expected audiences to be willing to accept the supposed hero committing this act.

    I also agree with your response to the person who thought that only House/Cuddy ‘shippers hated this particular piece of writing. I never wanted the romance to happen in the first place, and I thought it was out of character for Cuddy especially to ever go there. The way it played out bored me, led to some of the worst writing I’ve ever seen on the show (“Two Stories” especially made me cringe), and it couldn’t end soon enough for my taste.

    And yet I deplore this new! Shocking! Twist! because I think it was all for shock value and no care was taken over what it actually means for the characters and for the storyline of the show going forward.

  • Lucy

    #55 pulguita

    No, you don’t. It’s easy to point toward a “ship” as being the reason behind peoples thoughts. The harder path is actually hearing objectively what is said without putting it through a “ship” filter.

    :-)People are allowed to like it just because it resonated with them, or held interest for the future, or just because it was interesting. It’s not always about ships; in fact, it usually does go deeper whatever way you feel about it.

  • Lucy

    #53 BeNotAfraid and ArtGirl

    Apparently some people feel it’s not domestic violence since it only happened once. In fact, there’s some heated responses about this very terminology.

    Now, those same people see Cuddy as emotionally abusive throughout S7 and House a victim. I think we could pin point from S1-present how often House was emotionally abusive. In fact, everyone in his circle is emotionally abusive because he needs that to even let anyone in. Here’s the thing – emotional abuse can be pushed aside and explained away as the “nature of our relationship” and “who we are,” until someone drives a car into your home almost running someone over and endangering several lives. Then you have to rethink. I still find it interesting that the writer’s who constantly place dialogue throughout the script to direct the viewer to many ways of thinking, wrote the cop identifying it as domestic violence. Meant to be a thought? And Cuddy said she was always expecting something (always afraid of when the shoe will drop), but this?

    House doesn’t have a history of it, but the beach scene with him feeling relieved and seemingly without remorse is disturbing. There’s always a first time.

    On a side note, the police and courts found it to be domestic violence when my father punched the wall, threw things across the room, shattered glassesn through knives and generally destroyed our home in a fit of emotional rage, a response to painful situations. Sometimes we didn’t dodge the items, sometimes we got lucky. How can driving the car into the home not be in this category?

    I’m not saying House is or will become an abuser. I am saying that it is not a ridiculous conclusion for some people to draw. It is open to interpretation, so there’s no reason to get angry about that term being used. It was a possible take and the “think tank” of writers and researchers (and even the actors on some level) should have had someone raise their hand and say “wait a minute.”. If someone did, and they were ignored or disregarded, then they can obviously do the “I told you so” dance and ask for a raise. Oh, wait, they don’t have any money! Oh, well, at least give them an “I knew it” award.

  • pulguita

    I guess I have to be either a non-Huddy or Lisa’s hater to love the season finale.

  • Luc

    It’s interesting that some say there are new doors opened and others the doors are closed. Polarized again.

    New doors: consequences of his actions should result in a complete break, so he would a: start new with new job, new people, etc. (Which wouldn’t be House, so can’t happen), b: pay for his crimes at home, which means episodes dealing with rebuilding his life, which still doesn’t deal with the root of his problem, or c: go somewhere to get help, but would then feel like long-term Mayfield and still takes away from House. Options aren’t really a reset, hugh?

    Looks like maybe some windows were open for some episodes and maybe interesting, even production-fun scenes, but the door has been closed to House actually growing. The story seems to be headed in circles, House destroys hope, House tries to rebuild, House makes small steps, but fails, House destroys all hope.

    It would have been a greater challenge for this character to figure out how to help himself without destroying his life, the safety/ security of the woman he loves and the safety of his best friend. It would have been an open door to have House actually shock everyone (including himself) by declaring something key in his past that is causing this craziness in him and just have him run away after the reveal.

    Kaboom! Yeah, it was a choice. Their choice. Now we await the fall-out.

  • BeNotAfraid

    I agree with you ArtGirl. There’s no way to get around it. House committed domestic violence. I haven’t liked House for a long time. I hated Huddy. But there is no way in hell, Cuddy is responsible for House’s feelings or what he does with them. I didn’t watch S7 because I absolutely hated Huddy. It didn’t make sense that a woman who had accomplished that Cuddy had would be in love with a drug addict, who had lost his mind, and regularly made her job a living hell. And she has a child. That didn’t compute. Maybe in the fifties that would have worked as good TV but not in the 21st century. I watched the season finale because I wanted to celebrate the fact LE was not returning for S8. But after watching House nearly kill Cuddy, potentially kill baby Rachel, and nearly kill Wilson, I can say unequivocally I hate the character, House. There’s only one scenario the writers could come up with that would work for me. It was all in House’s head. Otherwise, there’s really no place to go except to jail for House, the batterer.

  • justme

    I am hoping it is just cuddy dreaming. because she invited a new guy in her house to quickly when they should going out and date to get to know each other. And House was really at the beach during the whole time

  • Artgirl

    “They have some ideas from last season about the aftermath of the crash (the ep was intended to be #19 and not the finale at first). But that’s it.”

    Which, not to belabor the point, reads to me as: they did not think this through, or not very well.

    You still haven’t addressed the domestic violence issue, which I know is huge for a lot of fans. The writers have been talking about this in terms of “venting his emotions” and “making a clean break” (looks like the messiest break possible, to me) and dodging the reality of what House did and the fact that anyone who does such a thing belongs in a mental facility or in prison.

  • Andreina

    I just wonder what the writers indtended to happen after the finale? For the time being let’s forget whether or not they knew about Lisa’s absence on set next Season.

    House crashes into her dining room in anger
    not caring about the people inside, especially Rachel. Hard to explain next season in so many ways. Any yet… they must have had a vague plan for Season 8, including Cuddy and Wilson.
    These are some possibilities they might have had in mind.

    * House took too many Vicodin and is found in his apartment unconscious in the beginning of Season 8. This murderous drivng scene merely a part of his drug adled halucinations.

    *He lost it and really did drive into her house, with let’s face it, possible murderous intent. He ends up in court and pleads temporary insanity because of drug use.

    *Season 8 opens with House coming out of surgery to repair the damage he did to his leg. He has dreamt the whole crash scene.

    All of the above scenerios leave open the possibility of relationships continuing between House and Wilson and Cuddy. I admit if writers had these ideas in mind they would be cop outs. SO… I just think that the Finale was a mistake in that it puts our Hero in a not too explainable corner.
    Any way I look at it, the writing did not reach the wonderful levels it has in the past. Oh well it has caused us to think and express our opinions. I just love the show and hope they can find an intelligent solution.

  • Artgirl

    “Artgirl–It doesn’t mean bad storytelling necessarily.”

    The degree to which we as viewers couldn’t see what we were supposed to somehow magically have seen (i.e. that House wasn’t homicidal and that he somehow — also magically, one presumes — knew he wouldn’t injure or kill anyone), tells me that, yes, it was poor storytelling and not very well thought through.

    We’ve stayed with House through an awful lot of instances of him doing shocking and horrible things, but this, for me, is not at all the same and has left me feeling that any sympathy I have for him makes me sympathetic to a man who would destroy a woman’s home and risk killing her and her family, over a breakup.

    That isn’t the House I knew and I don’t think I want to.

    Making a character do terrible things is not necessarily the same thing as making that character completely unsympathetic, and in a show that relies upon the audience’s continued sympathy for the protagonist, I do consider what was done to House to be a very bad storytelling choice.

  • Oversimplified

    Thanks for this Barbara. I think you’ve made a really valid point about Wilson and Cuddy as his enablers actually doing him no good whatsoever. I’ve discussed this on numerous occasions with friends who are fellow House fans and we’ve always said that they’re a little like overprotective parents. They’ve sort of killed him, emotionally, with kindness and fed the narcissistic, self-serving part of his personality which makes him believe that there won’t be any consequences to his actions. Don’t get me wrong what they’ve done, they’ve done because they love him almost unconditionally, but that in itself is the problem.

    That said I’m still not on board with what happened at the end of the finale. I get what the writers were trying to do, but by focusing on the ‘shock factor’ they lost sight of the fact that they were closing numerous doors, instead of leaving them open for season 8. (Actually that’s the problem with a lot of season 7 for me.) David Shore’s explanation and defence of what House did still astounds me to to be perfectly honest. I really think he needs to take a step back and look at the bigger picture and at least try to recognise why that scene angered so many people, because I don’t think he does. Even now I don’t believe he can see the wood for the trees, so focused is he on his ‘vision’. Sure at the end of the day it’s his show, but shows need audiences and you can’t expect people to continue tuning in if they no longer connect with the protagonist. It’s hard to empathise with a psychopath, or at the very least someone exhibiting psychotic behaviour. I just think there were so many other ways they could have made House break away from Wilson and Cuddy, but they did it in such a way that killed the character for so many people. Yes it’s ‘edgy’, but it’s also cutting your nose off to spite your face.

    At this point I’m really not too optimistic about season 8, especially after reading the EW interview where it was suggested there will be numerous different Deans walking through the doors at PPTH. To me that sounds like House will be back and making their lives a misery leading to umpteen resignations, and I just don’t see how they can legitimately hit the reset button at this point, which I honestly think was the whole reasoning behind this particular ‘kaboom’. I guess they saw it as a way back to the show’s roots when the medicine was at the forefront and the personal relationships were secondary the catalyst being because House has basically blown them to smithereens. GY has been going on about how ‘game-changing’ the finale is, but I can only see it changing the game for maybe 4-6 episodes because for them to push the ramifications of House’s actions to their logical conclusions their lead character would be jobless, friendless and incarcerated for a significant amount of time. I really hope I’m wrong about this.

    I’m still in two minds about LE returning at some point for a guest appearance. I’m glad in a way that she took the decision out of their hands because I can’t under any circumstances imagine a situation where Cuddy could or should work with him again. It’s just a shame that she’s going to have to be the one who disappears. I would however like to see Cuddy appear at least one last time before the series end. Maybe in a chance meeting with House where he’s forced to face up to what he’s done, and there’s one final moment of honesty between them before they part ways for good.

  • justme

    of course not! they took a drastic measure. I hated that part and rather if they did it differently

  • Joan

    I am still having a lot of trouble with this finale and how they apparently felt the need to go with a shocking ending in the last few minutes over writing some decent eps dealing with the fallout from the breakup. Yes, I liked House and Cuddy together and wanted it explored more and better but like many huddy fans I could have been ok with a breakup if it was handled better.

    Shore said they were just trying to get back to the pre-relationship ‘normal’ but the fact is that they didn’t write it to do that. I hated the way Cuddy broke up with him so abruptly after one slip in a moment of extreme stress and worry over her. But she too was very emotional and vulnerable when she did this. If House had ever stopped being an ass for the next several eps or completely avoiding her they might have had one of their good explosive fights, finally had a moment of honesty about the relationship etc. and gotten back to a working relationship with some added undertones. Frankly, House is Cuddy’s achilles heel and if he had really done something to show he understood her reservations I think the door would have been open to reconciliation given their long history. Instead Shore insisted that they coould never ever ever get together and so we have those over the top eps with House going from hooker to hooker, playing with ridic toys and disrupting the hospital, hitting Cuddy with nasty cruel barbs whenever he can all culminating with marrying green card girl. See, he’s married so they can’t get together — Isn’t that moving on pretty damn far? I know, emotionally he’s still tied to Cuddy. But Cuddy is still tied to him — she loves him, feels guilty, hasn’t been able to date as she admits to him in the finale. It almost looked like they were going to finally deal with the breakup in the last two eps — in After Hours Cuddy came in the middle of the night to save him again and House admitted she’s the only one he trusts….then the hallway finale scene was beautifully done and again could have paved the way to this ‘normalcy’ tptb say they want but instead they send him crashing through her house — no need to parse exactly who stood where or whether someone, including Rachel could have entered the room, it was an act of serious reckless endangerment and malicious mischief to use legal terms. And because he saw her having dinner with some people? Where does he get off feeling betrayed by that after the hookers he shoved in Cuddy’s face the day after the breakup?? I just felt it was sloppy writing to have him come undone from that and do such an awful thing to her home after she showed she still cares for him coming to his rescue only a day or so before. I think there were so many other ways they could have shown House’ extreme state of mind that would have been less ugly than the way they chose. What would Cuddy have come back to do next year — supervise his court mandated community service at the clinic in a state of cold or hot war with him til the writers effected some sort of forgiveness? It is a very odd place to put House in this late in the program. Shore claims he never likes to re-do but this is apparently a total reboot back to season 1 — I wish I did have a better understanding of the House fandom other than the online groups because to me there are an awful lot of people who are not at all excited to be looking back at that. All the reviews I read were negative about the development (OR LACK THEREOF)in House and loss of Lisa as a real blow to the show, not an improvement. Are there tons of fans out that who want House to be an irredeamable and unchangeable jerk to the last?

  • Derfel

    40 – justme, but I’m sure you didn’t get married with someone and didn’t do any horrible things to your ex boyfriend just after you broke up.

  • Artgirl–It doesn’t mean bad storytelling necessarily. Having a character do something stunning or terrible can be a classically good storytelling choice. People may hate the writer for doing it, but it doesn’t make it bad storytelling.

    The fact that House will face serious consequences puts House, by definition, on an altered path. It opens up a lot of creative possibilities for a series in its 8th season.

    The fact is, they haven’t written one script for Season 8 yet. They’ve just started talking story arc and dealing with LE’s departure. They have some ideas from last season about the aftermath of the crash (the ep was intended to be #19 and not the finale at first). But that’s it.

  • Artgirl

    I did not and do not want to see a main character who commits domestic violence, and it disturbs me deeply to see the show’s creators and writers laughing this off as if ramming a car into a woman’s home while she and her family are inside it is somehow NOT domestic violence.

    Just because something is arguably possible for a character, does not mean that it’s a good idea from a storytelling standpoint. This, in my opinion, was a serious blunder. Shore has said that everything we saw was real; that House will face serious consequences; and that the show will remain essentially unchanged.

    I don’t see how all three of these things can be true. Any two, okay, but not all three. And it angers me that apparently no forethought was given, either about the wisdom of turning your protagonist into someone unrecognizable and unsympathetic to a large part of your audience, or to the corner they’ve painted themselves into. If the show is indeed to go on without massive disruptions, then either something we saw wasn’t real, or there is going to be a ridiculous deus ex machina to keep House out of prison and in practice as a doctor.

    Of the two available options, I’m hoping for the one in which Shore lied about the reality of what we saw. They’ve used it too much, but it’s better than seeing House as being pleased with himself after nearly killing Wilson, Cuddy, and anyone who might have been inside that house.

  • “change an entire script would take forever”

    Written by someone not it the TV business or a tad delusional himself because a team of writers could actually do it fairly quickly

  • Sam

    I am graciously willing to forgive any and all ill emotions directed at the creative team IF they will reveal that it was all a publicity stunt including the bad finale and Cuddy will in fact come back for season 8.

  • justme

    the way I interpret House before he crashed her house was that he saw her moved on and he is still hurting.

    to explain it better: when my ex boyfriend and I broke up, he began dating other girls. I was still hurt about the break up . I thought he would grieve too but when I saw him with another girl two weeks later, All I could feel was hurt and thought”did I mean anything to him at all”.I can’t explain it but he moved on way too fast for me.I wasnt ready for another relationship but he was. I have decided to throw anything to do with him and erased him from my mind too.

    I eventually moved on and found a better guy.

  • Blake said to me that from what we now know, the final scene is real (the beach scene). I’m no so sure it is.

  • Celia

    On the whole I agree with your comments. I think a controversial Finale was made even a bigger target by the resignation of LE. I too thought House was in total emotional chaos when he got back into the car with Wilson. I felt he ordered Wilson out both to spare himself a lecture, but also because he knew that he was loosing it,and ight harm Wilson. When House sped away from the curb, I thought he was going to go hurlding into traffic. Turning the car around in seething anger made terrible sense. House’s self directed violence has been escalating all season and this one one of the two choices in ‘next steps’for unresolved issues. He almost took out Wilson, anyone standing in Cuddy’s room and himself. Crashing a car into a home usually causes physical carnage. I gave the writers dramatic license to let him walk away from it unscathed. The peaceful beach scene was not cathartic to me , rather deeply, deeply disturbing. At that point, I actually wanted to House admitted to Mayfield again.The way DS & Blake are shrugging the final scene off is …………may I say once again……..disturbing.

  • Johnathan–I didn’t see the “all” at first. I understand!

  • Johnathan

    @ 31 Barbara – I was addressing mostly those who thinks the script was originally written with LE leaving in mind as if to leave the writers an opening to continue next season without her. Sorry for sounding bitter, I’m a huge LE fan!

  • rjw

    I finally had the chance to watch the finale a second time,and found it excellent! Of course,the ending was shocking and upsetting (as it should be when someone crashes into a house).Watching a second time,it became clear that Cuddy and her guests were moving to the other room.House would have seen that,but there’s no way he could know that someone didn’t go back in.As the writers said in an interview,House has destroyed his life in his attempts to make a break.I will definitely be tuning in when it comes back to see what does happen.It’s obvious that Cuddy will no longer with romantically involved with him (even before Lisa E. left).He is truly in a very dark place…darker than ever.

  • Nada

    28 – Johnathan
    “The finale clearly states that Cuddy doesn’t want House anywhere near the hospital, so they planned on her staying and House going.”

    What? when I saw the last scene, it was obvious that her character has nothing to do anymore in this show. I think writers knew already about Lisa E departure since months.
    Adios Cuddy! how can they still expect a return as a guest?

  • Luc

    The opionions are certainly not universal. The fans are polarized on this finale and there is not right ot wrong. It’s just the individual take and how much the viewer is willing to take in rooting for House. You said it right: it was a huge risk for this late in the game when ratings were already dropping. To split the fan base is a risk for the creative team and the network.

    The portrayal of Cuddy this season was an interesting choice too, in light of them saying they had every intention for Lisa to return. The fans are polarized on that front as well. She’s either a villain or a victim.

    I think the writers have been trying to portray House, Wilson and Cuddy as both villain and victim all along. They enable and support, they abuse and encourage. They have always shown House to only allow the emotional abusers and highly dysfunctional into his circle. It’s part of the dynamic; the dychotomy of what is politically correct and acceptable vs inappropriate and unethical/immoral. These friends function in dysfunction. Yet, this finale seemed intent on destroying that dynamic.

    In the context of what they are saying, maybe House needed that complete break, but that break changes House. DS says S8 will show House is still House, but this break says he can’t be, otherwise the act was for nothing. If the motive was to clearly break from that pattern, then something equally destructive is to be expected with Wilson because clearly the normal self-destruction isn’t enough. It’s uneven writing, and the more it’s discussed the more uneven it feels for many.

    It’s a weird place to be. If TPTB really believe he needs to make a clean break to move on, then it requires equal break from Wilson. To do this changes a fundamental relationships in the show. Having House grow is more about him accepting and the people in his life accepting. It’s not really about changing.

    This finale pushed the “House has to change” envelope. I wish we could just get off that treadmill after all these years and just start getting to the heart of House. I could write a paper on all the things the writers, DS and GY have said that suggest that won’t happen. And with the clear direction of dealing with consequences, we are back on that treadmill, dealing with the results of his actions and not really getting to the root. We can hope that they will in S8, but really? With the consequences to address, then the normal deflection and fight and arrogance that must play out to keep House real, can they get to the root in one season? Won’t it be rushed and weak? It honestly should have started in S6 and been a three season unravelling. But those were missed opportunites, IMO…and in the eyes of many critics.

    Which leads us back to the point. Many are excited to see how they move on. Many feel they have been left with that promise too many times. To them, this finale was a real chance at moving on, but the last scenes only made the treadmill come clear. They want off.

    Risky choice, indeed. I’m sure TPTB, network and the remaining fans hope the risk is worth it. Perhaps the won’t lose many viewers. It’s hard to say. The polls and forums are only small groups and pockets of the overall viewers, so they cannot be true indicators. However, if they can be looked at as sample groups, they are an indication that the polarization is a concern for the ratings.

    TV history will tell…

  • Amy

    It was a weak story season. House M.D. needs new writers that like the character House.

  • Jonathan–Me delusional? about what? Of course the script was written a long time ago–long before LE didn’t re-up!

  • kitkat

    Under the circumstances the story will definitely focus on House come season 8. That’s a good thing. No more melodrama with Taub, Foreman, Chase and 13 which I dislike personally haha!

  • Nada

    26 – But wait1
    Yes I agree, I can rewatch season 1 to 4 again and again, dialogues and medical cases were amazing.
    I think writers are not very inspired with romances, all the characters are more interesting alone than with someone.

  • Johnathan

    Are you all delusional? The script was written a long time ago and granted, it is possible they could change things here and there but change an entire script would take forever, not to mention the overrun cost of production. I don’t think they actually knew LE was leaving until she factually did. The finale clearly states that Cuddy doesn’t want House anywhere near the hospital, so they planned on her staying and House going.

  • Nada

    What House did is not out of character, he could explode a mountain (ok with no people on it lol) that it wouldn’t shock me, the problem is the way it was filmed, they just made a mistake (ok a big one).

  • But wait1

    Barbara (#25), I have to disagree. I think the quality of writing has gone bad, too. The dialogue has become repetitive and heavyhanded, and themes are too obviously presented, IMO. “Family Practice” had a nice script, though.

  • Thank you Eloise. The one episode this season I really didn’t like was “Fall From Grace.” House was obnoxious in this episode, and although I saw where they were going, I couldn’t tolerate him until the final scene.

    There are many reasons people didn’t like this season (and some of it had to do with putting House and Cuddy together in the first place, by the way). I liked that they did, wished they’d done it for a bit longer. But the fact that they didn’t and chose to end the season like this doesn’t make either the show or the writing bad. It does mean that a lot of people disagree with the creative choices made by the producers (and maybe especially David Shore).

  • But wait1

    Popped my head in to see what Ms. Barnett had to say about the finale.

    I respect your opinion as well, but I have to second TVTherapy(#4)’s to…infinity 🙁

    Especially this.
    “What’s disappointed me so much this season is that I feel that the sense of purpose that I watched the show for, all the little nuances that I watched for and appreciated, where I thought the writers and directors and producers were really working hard to create amazingly detailed and complicated stories, is no longer here. I can’t read into this ending and give them credit for what I’m projecting as their intentions. Their intentions lacked real thought. And that’s the problem.”

    This is what I have felt and expressed for S7 as well. I miss the complicated, detailed storylines that were intricately interwoven. I think S7 had too much of an anvil-esque quality in too many respects.

    In regards to the finale, if TPTB had put a concerted effort into thinking about what they were actually doing with that crash, they would have edited/shot the scene so that the audience could definitely see that House KNEW nobody (esp. tiny Rachel) was in that room. I don’t think it’s fair to tell the audience, “Well, if you look really, really closely, you can tell he saw them get up and leave the room, so CLEARLY he wasn’t trying to physically hurt/kill anyone.” Legally and logically, this reasoning fails on so many levels, least of which is because it illogically excludes the possibility of anyone reentering the room. Also, again, if House’s intentions were to swerve out of the way if he saw anyone, that should have been made more clear in the camera-work and/or editing.

    You can’t tell a significant portion of an audience that their interpretation is misguided when the presentation left ample room for the “misguidance” you talk about.

    I think David Shore should stop giving interviews because when he says something like this right after the finale:

    “I’ve always thought House was capable of killing people close to him. [Laughs]… I don’t think he wanted to kill anybody. But who knows? Probably part of his mind did. It was a lashing out — a very extreme lashing out. I don’t think it was a murderous lashing out.”

    He doesn’t even make sense. So, he always thought House was capable of killing somebody, and A PART OF HIS MIND PROBABLY DID WANT TO KILL CUDDY, it wasn’t a murderous lashing out?

    I’d like to see any court, even an imaginary one in fictionland that tries to emulate reality in some way, find in favor of someone whose conduct, circumstance, and result all satisfy AT LEAST a negligently criminal mental state. If anything, TPTB are arguing that House knowingly controlled his actions. Knowledge is a HIGHER criminal standard than negligence or recklessness and makes him MORE liable, not less. I can’t believe that they don’t know this, so it really does sound like they’re trying to backpedal with words and grasping at straws to fix something that they should have put more thought into. (I mean, because, a lot of research goes into all the episodes, right?)

    DS then said recently, two weeks later:
    “And [House] does feel better, which to me means he got what he wanted out of that. He did intend to lash out. He did intend to hurt her, but not physically. He got what he wanted, which was to strike a blow against her world. Certainly, it was crazy and irresponsible and dangerous, but it wasn’t an attempt to murder her.”

    That is a very weak justification. So, H intended to do an act, caused the act which he intended, and Shore is arguing a lower standard of intent to say it wasn’t an act geared to by physically harmful or homicidal? “He got what he wanted out of that?” So he knowingly, with a conscious object to cause the result, with an awareness of circumstances, and a conscious objective to engage in conduct of that nature, did what he did? That’s the highest standard of criminal conduct. I would really like to tell Shore to stop talking.
    It sounds like he’s trying to side-step the horror of what House did (Really? He did intend to hurt her but not physically so he perpetuated an act of criminal violence? Excuse me while I laugh.)and trying to make it a not-so-big deal. Well, IMO, his arguments are failing.

    IMO, the uproar over the finale has caused TPTB at House and the network execs to give interviews and conduct surveys, polls, send out questionnaires to panelists, conduct a chat between an exec and viewers, and etc. I do believe the uproar was unexpected, and at this I am disappointed because this goes back to the idea that TPTB did not put in a concerted effort into really thinking about what they’re doing.

  • Eloise

    A lot of people voting in polls do have a hidden agenda actually and some of those polls can be voted on more than once. It was a shocking end in the finale it was meant to be.

  • Eloise

    Well written article, did not agree with it totally as I really enjoyed most of the season and felt the finale fitting. I did not see House trying to hurt anyone but someone who just flipped. I think that its a shame so many people are down on the programme, I for one am really excited for S8.
    I think your right too Barbara, not all watchers hated the finale and it may well mean that it has given it a boost. We shall see……

  • Iris

    I suppose “nearly universal” (which is what I said) criticism is too broad? How about “widespread” among entertainment news outlets? These are a few who’ve passed negative judgments on the finale.

    TV Fanatic

    TV Guide

    Screen Rant

    Television Without Pity


    E Online

    Although, major outlets like EW and TVLine have been diplomatic, it’s clear from their targeted questioning and expressed concern that they find the ending problematic as well.

    TV Line

    Inside TV

    But I guess that doesn’t matter. And viewers who find the ending disturbing MUST be mere LE supporters. That small, vocal contingent were surely the only people voting in this poll.


    All 36,000 of them.

    Nevertheless people have their bias; some disliked the finale because LE is gone; some because it was legitimately terrible and sullies the show and character of House. Some will praise the finale just because they dislike Cuddy and applaud her exit.
    Regardless, character assassination, shock tactics and controversy don’t justify themselves.

  • KrispyKreme

    Barbara, thank you for both pieces. I always love to read your thoughts. I too needed your insight to understand the basis of House’s behavior. I watched it with my husband as well, who barely watched five episodes of the entire show in total. He was shocked at the intensity of the violence that House exhibited and asked if house was a disturbed mental patient…That made me pause and think that either the scene was done poorly or House finally snapped. The latter would mean he’ll never be able to practice medicine again. It made me sad.

  • Nada

    “we’ll get the House that we all love and miss back.”

    Well yes why not (back to powerful medical cases), but the first seasons were the best of this show, I don’t know if writers could be again on the same level, I noticed that dialogues are not as great as they were in the first seasons.

  • Silvia–I thought very hard about writing a new article about the episode. I’m not trying to explain it. I just wanted to share my subjective thoughts. Disagree or agree with me. I’m not explaining anything to anyone. I’m trying to understand the episode, and I shared it with my readers.

    Whether the finale was bad is a matter of opinion, not fact. I liked it (but was unnerved by the end); you did not. They are both valid opinions. It’s not a matter of you’re right and I’m wrong — or the reverse.

    I watched the episode with my husband (who knows the show very, very well, but isn’t at all part of the fandom). He wondered why I was so shocked by the ending. He wondered why I found it at all out of character for House. He thought it was a well written, well-executed finale. His opinion is one I’ve found as much as the reverse outside the fandom, interestingly.

  • TripleM

    @ #15 Cartoid artery: Great idea! Maybe the writers meant for that all along just to save the failing season? That would be a good save and will bring House full circle to the way he was before! YAY

  • Silvia

    We needed a full interview with the writers, and Barbara having to explain to us over two articles to make us finally understand what the finale is all about? I feel like a high school kid who just got an F on a subject I’ve been taking all year long. I can’t decide if the finale was bad due to the writing or the directing

  • Carotid artery

    Guys, it won’t be so bad if House goes back to being what he was after Stacy left him, we’ll get the House that we all love and miss back. Silver lining etc..

  • Paul.s

    Barbara, I have to respectfully disagree with your comment about the writers successfully coming up with a finale that ensnared us (the viewers) into wondering how House might find his way out of this mess.Most of us are simply stunned at the ridiculous route the story line has taken. If some of us are sitting around with our mouth open agape, it’s more due to the lack of quality writing and an imagination run amok. I do agree that they have their work cut out for them. They have to prove their worth next season or risk being the best tv show that bombed.

  • Nada #11–I don’t know. But Wilson witnessed something pretty terrifying in him. Maybe suicidal, but more likely completely self-destructive.

    I don’t know if we’re going to go back to square one where House has to be manipulated into even taking a patient. First and most importantly, he has to work his way out this mess. Criminal charges, destroyed relationships, probably rehab (at least). It’s a mess.

  • Gill

    Thank you for reminding me of that Barbara. His action here my not be as out of character as it appears. It was never fully explained how he was after Stacy. Even when she came back.

  • Nada

    “I believe that we are seeing a parallel to what House (and by extension) Wilson went through after Stacy left him the first time.”

    Ok but so back to square one?
    House alone, miserable and stoned?

    “I think what we are seeing in House is Wilson’s deepest fears going back to season one.”

    Do you think he tried to commit suicide after Stacy left him?

  • Simon

    I’m thinking House was more angry at himself for actually believing that Cuddy is worth the agony he went through. The last eight episodes proved she isn’t worth anything.

  • HalfPastLater

    Great, now I have to watch it again 🙁

  • Iris–I’m not defending it. Did you read what I wrote? It is what I feel and believe. And by the way, a lot of viewers that I’ve spoken with over the last two weeks really, really liked the ending as “perfect.” I would disagree with them. Shocking yes; perfect, no.

    The criticism isn’t actually as universal among the viewers at large as you might think, but there among many of the core of the fandom who hated it.

    I think intent might have been made much more clearly. I said that. There was a lot to like about the finale. It was controversial and not universally loved. I understand what they did and were trying to do. I am entitled to my opinion like anyone else.

  • Gill–I think what we are seeing in House is Wilson’s deepest fears going back to season one. That warning he gives Cameron about getting involved with House?

    I believe that we are seeing a parallel to what House (and by extension) Wilson went through after Stacy left him the first time.

    Lisa–Yes, this is totally my interpretation. I don’t think it’s fanwanking, but it is the lens through which I’m understanding House’s actions as potentially inevitable. Not everyone’s going to agree with me on this. On the other hand I don’t agree with others. So fair enough.

  • Iris

    BB, you are a professional line-straddler of the highest degree. Way to take umbrage with the ill-conceived finale but not condemn it. Guess you still need Shore & Co to agree to speak with you though?
    Anyway, none of this would be an issue if Shore et al didn’t insist on maintaining that they’re “in the right.” When a fictional TV scenario enters the realm of discussion in actually society–there is NO WAY to defend crashing a car through another’s House. Shore is so desperate to defend his finale against nearly universal criticism (on several points) that he’s become an abuse apologist. It’s all so very wrong.

  • Gill

    Very well said Barbara. Its good that you waited to do your review, and did not get caught up in the instant reaction hysterics that I have seen on other sites. I was not suprised that House snaped, its been coming on for years. Mayfield did not fix him at all, he only got off the drugs, which now he is clearly back to. I do hold Wilson and esp Cuddy responsible for a lot of this. Cuddy knew what he could do if pushed in the wrong direction, thats why I feel she was totally heartless by the way she broke up with him, she I feel destroyed him. He will now have to pick up the pieces, and face up to what he has done. Cuddy wont be there anymore, and I think that is for the best, we will have to see if Wilson will still be there for him as a friend. If the writers and David Shore do this right, they could inject a new spark of engery into the show. I am more excited now for S8 than I was for S7.

  • TVTherapy

    Part of me reads what you wrote and can agree that if you look at it in every way you’ve proposed, maybe they’ve done something interesting and risky.

    But the part of me that I’m actually listening to is shaking my head and thinking we’re just grasping at straws here.

    Barbara, you know how much respect I have for this series. But I have been wracking my brain trying to philosophize this ending and twist it so it makes sense and bend around TPTB’s intentions, and I come up empty every time. I really don’t think that there is anything particularly special or remarkable about House’s thought process or his despair, etc. I honestly think that part of the reason this season ended in this way was because they wanted to end with a bang and because they thought this might be an interesting way to do it.

    What’s disappointed me so much this season is that I feel that the sense of purpose that I watched the show for, all the little nuances that I watched for and appreciated, where I thought the writers and directors and producers were really working hard to create amazingly detailed and complicated stories, is no longer here. I can’t read into this ending and give them credit for what I’m projecting as their intentions. Their intentions lacked real thought. And that’s the problem.

    Just like House, the king of self-sabotage, this show has shot itself in the foot. Like you said, it wasn’t clear AT ALL to viewers what House’s intentions were in what he did, and of course, we’re supposed to figure it out on our own. But it’s not okay that one of the options was that he could have physically hurt or killed Cuddy and especially Rachel who there’s no way he could have seen when he drove into the house.

    I appreciate that you took the time to try and gain some perspective. I did the same thing with “Bombshells” and am still baffled. This season was filled with wasted potential and I’m saddened to think that now we aren’t even going to get a deserving ending for Cuddy.

    All in all, it was nice to read your perspective, but that’s all this is, YOUR perspective. To hope that these are the things that went into the writers’ minds when they wrote this ending is wishful thinking.


  • I am not disagreeing with either of you. I understand where House is coming from. I completely understand why he did what he did, thinking rationally about it. But for me the shock was there. But then again, this is my subjective opinion. (And why it’s categorized as an opinion and not a review).

    I can’t wait to see where this is going either!

  • eleonora

    I agree with HouseMDFan . I don’t feel betrayed by the House’s reaction , because even if it’s an overreaction , I understand him .
    He still loves Cuddy, maybe deep in his heart he hopes that she comes back to him.
    I guess that after the car crash , House went to a New Jersey beach .

  • HouseMDFan

    We, as the audience, I believe, are meant to react to House just as Cuddy has; she is shaking and furious. So are we. Whatever demons House possesses, he’s never really been malicious. His most destructive qualities have almost always been aimed at himself (with rare exceptions); House hurts himself, not others. But this House is not our House; he has betrayed us as he’s betrayed Cuddy and Wilson. And perhaps that is what we are meant to feel.

    Just want to say that you are NOT speaking for the whole audience. I realize that a lot of people feel this way, and that this is fine and even wanted, but there are people, like me, who don’t. This is still very much MY House, as I know him, still definitely in character, I don’t feel betrayed by him, and I can’t wait to see where this is going.